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Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: December 18, 2020 at 02:28 PM | 3080 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   2601. tshipman Posted: April 11, 2021 at 04:26 PM (#6012827)
Two thoughts on the link in 2599:

1. When guys #### it back like that, it always makes the dunk 10x better instantly.
2. Are the Hornets' announcers actually just WWE people?
   2602. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 11, 2021 at 04:29 PM (#6012828)
that's barely a 6 on the blake griffin scale.


if this is a 10, that one's a 4.
   2603. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 11, 2021 at 04:35 PM (#6012831)
he didn't jump that high. his body avoided contact with capela. it was 100% windmill. all smoke, no fire.


#haterade
   2604. tshipman Posted: April 11, 2021 at 04:39 PM (#6012832)
The Larry Nance, Jr. over BroLo dunk was better than the 10/10 Blake one.
   2605. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 11, 2021 at 04:42 PM (#6012833)
The Larry Nance, Jr. over BroLo dunk was better than the 10/10 Blake one.

did you miss the positioning of blake griffin's left hand?

but i can agree that nance's finish beats bridges.



actually, blake had his own highlight over capela.


and then there's just some magnificent blake on gasol crime.
   2606. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: April 11, 2021 at 05:21 PM (#6012836)
if this is a 10, that one's a 4

It really does look like Blake’s turbo booster kicked in halfway up.
   2607. tshipman Posted: April 11, 2021 at 05:24 PM (#6012837)
did you miss the positioning of blake griffin's left hand?


Two things:
1. Blake threw the ball in and didn't dunk it, so -points right there.
2. It was an offensive foul *because* of the left hand.
   2608. Shohei Brotani (formerly LA Hombre) Posted: April 11, 2021 at 06:01 PM (#6012844)
that's barely a 6 on the blake griffin scale.

if this is a 10, that one's a 4.
OT NBA was suitably impressed live that night:
19754. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: November 21, 2010 at 05:14 AM (#3694626)
... oh, lord. The throw-down over Mozgov, you guys have to see that highlight tonight. It'll drop your jaw.
19755. Avoid Running At All Times- S. Paige Posted: November 21, 2010 at 05:30 AM (#3694629)
Saw it, and you are not exaggerating. Just wow. Mozgov might need to go to a shrink after that one. Griffin is a force.
19756. NJ in NJ Posted: November 21, 2010 at 05:31 AM (#3694631)
The Griffin dunk over Mozgov was incredible. He's the quickest "big" I've seen in a while. He's like a more muscular LeBron playing on the block.
19767. . . . . . . Posted: November 21, 2010 at 02:29 PM (#3694671)
Holy crop. Mosgov got Weised.
19770. Mo Vaughn Down The Road Posted: November 21, 2010 at 04:49 PM (#3694730)
I just saw the clips of the Griffin dunks, including the Mosgov posterization. The dude is unreal on the vertical.
19771. tshipman Posted: November 21, 2010 at 04:58 PM (#3694737)
Saw the clip of Griffin getting up. My word. His groin is in Mozgov's face. He is at least 4 feet off the ground there. You guys weren't kidding.
   2609. asinwreck Posted: April 11, 2021 at 09:48 PM (#6012862)
Rain delay at Madison Square Garden.
   2610. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 11, 2021 at 09:56 PM (#6012864)
Two things:
1. Blake threw the ball in and didn't dunk it, so -points right there.
2. It was an offensive foul *because* of the left hand.
1: blake's career made that distinction moot. it's a dunk.
2: do you really want to live in a world where mozgov is rewarded for that "defense"? even i am not that miserable.
19767. . . . . . . Posted: November 21, 2010 at 02:29 PM (#3694671)
Holy crop. Mosgov got Weised.
it's been 20 years since that one happened, so in case anyone didn't get that reference, here you go. it's worth the click.

quick side note:
who the hell thought it would be a good idea to put vin baker on an olympic team?
   2611. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 11, 2021 at 10:15 PM (#6012868)
quick side note:
who the hell thought it would be a good idea to put vin baker on an olympic team?
oh, holy ####, it's so much worse that i even thought.

he was coming off a 2000 season, at 28 years old, in the prime of his career, where he put 16 and 8 on 50% TS%, with a 14 PER, -3 BPM and 24% usage. his stats were blown out of the water by the likes of corliss williamson, rodney rodgers, clarence weatherspoon and derrick coleman. how in the hell does that happen?
   2612. smileyy Posted: April 12, 2021 at 12:29 AM (#6012875)
That's Vin Baker the Championship Maker that you're talking smack about!

At least the All-Star voters managed to only vote him in the 4 seasons that he had a positive BPM.
   2613. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: April 12, 2021 at 05:27 AM (#6012890)
how in the hell does that happen?


He wasn't even the last player selected!
   2614. Thok Posted: April 12, 2021 at 06:57 AM (#6012892)
I don't think people realized at the time how much Vin Baker was permanently affected by the '99 strike; without the structure of the NBA season he fell into alcoholism and never recovered during his playing days.
   2615. PJ Martinez Posted: April 13, 2021 at 11:16 AM (#6013197)
Torn ACL for Jamal Murray. Such a bummer. Denver is a really fun team, and Jokic is having an incredible season, plus the addition of Gordon seems to be paying off. Hard to see how they get out of the West without Murray, though, and he could miss most of next season, too.
   2616. asinwreck Posted: April 13, 2021 at 11:19 AM (#6013198)
Ugh, that's awful. Before his leg initially forced him out (and after Gordon joined the team), Denver seemed unstoppable.
   2617. tshipman Posted: April 13, 2021 at 12:00 PM (#6013203)
It looked really bad live, but I was hoping that it would be a strain. Awful news for Murray.
   2618. Your favorite TFTIO, me! Posted: April 13, 2021 at 12:44 PM (#6013210)
Oh man, that stinks.
   2619. Shohei Brotani (formerly LA Hombre) Posted: April 13, 2021 at 05:23 PM (#6013256)
Terrible news. And I assume this takes Denver off the table as possible champs for at least a couple of years.

Bleah.
   2620. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 13, 2021 at 06:12 PM (#6013267)
Kyle Neubeck @KyleNeubeck

Sixers-Nets is a big game and a big matchup tomorrow. Just don't expect the Sixers to show Brooklyn a whole lot of love ahead of that game.

"There's only one ball and you got to play defense," Ben Simmons said of their next opponent on Monday night
   2621. If on a winter's night a traveling violation Posted: April 13, 2021 at 07:16 PM (#6013281)
[2619] Certainly this year, probably next. And (crass though it feels to bring up contracts at a time like this) after next season, Gordon and Porter Jr will be free agents, likely looking for significant raises, with no evidence to suggest Denver's owners are willing to field a taxpaying team. Just brutal timing.
   2622. tshipman Posted: April 13, 2021 at 07:36 PM (#6013287)
I think Murray would be back by next year's playoffs. Unclear what % he would be at, and whether he'd be able to re-integrate seamlessly, but it's at least conceivable that he'd be an asset in the playoffs.

I'm also not 100% sure that they're done for this year:

Gordon on, Murray off:
Nuggets: 124.0 ORTG
Opponents: 116.7 ORTG

They're less resilient to switches, and they're less deep, but I think a 7 point net rating makes you a contender.
   2623. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: April 14, 2021 at 12:46 AM (#6013325)
The Lakers get some help from the Celtics today. The Lakers now have a 2-1/2 game lead on the Blazers and a 4 game lead on the Mavericks. Obviously, they do not want to fall to seventh Place in the conference because they would have to be part of the play-in tournament. Ideally, they would want to catch the Clippers but I think that is an especially likely. If they fall to 6 spot in the conference, they would have to play the Clippers in the first round. Either way, it looks like they will have a difficult first round opponent even if they avoid the tournament.
   2624. spivey 2 Posted: April 14, 2021 at 11:11 AM (#6013356)
Perhaps this is already obvious to folks who are into basketball nerd twitter, but Seth Partnow spends much of his time there addressing 3 point rate, the game, etc. He had a retweet that caught my attention.

Darryl Blackport @bballport
Percentage of all shots that are 2s from outside 10ft taken off 2+ dribbles:
2013-14: 13.8%
2020-21: 12.7%

Percentage of all shots that are 2s from outside 10ft taken off 0 or 1 dribble:
2013-14: 17.2%
2020-21: 5.7%


I think this does a good job of showing the off-the-bounce midrange game still exists, and imo many of the best players in the NBA have this as a reasonably big part of their arsenal. It's really just the camping on the baseline, at the elbow, etc. off ball that's mostly gone away.
   2625. spivey 2 Posted: April 14, 2021 at 12:46 PM (#6013364)
Really bummed about the news for Denver. I still think they will be a tough out in the playoffs, and Morris is one of the best backup PGs in the league.
   2626. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: April 14, 2021 at 01:40 PM (#6013368)
Unless the Lakers get totally healthy, the West is really wide open and this definitely hurts Denver's chances in a short series. Jokic was starting to pull away in the MVP conversation, I guess this probably helps his narrative case (assuming they tread water or even make up ground in the standings).

Assuming the Lakers don't win the title, someone or some team's playoff reputation is going to be redeemed this year. And I honestly have no idea who it'll be.
   2627. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: April 14, 2021 at 02:05 PM (#6013375)
Bulls have now played 10 games since the trade deadline. They're 3-7 in those games, with their last 2 losses coming against MIN and MEM. They've remained at 10th in the East. Part of the argument that was made in favor of the trade was they were pushing for the playoffs (or play in tourney) and would hopefully get there by improving offensively. Well, their ORtg is virtually the same (110.5 now vs 110.6 before), even with Vuc playing just as good as he was in ORL (they're also playing much slower, which is some ways is also less fun). The tradeoff, of course, was that they likely would remain a bad defensive team; well, they're actually much worse there: 114.5 DRtg now vs 111.6.

That doesn't even take into account the future first rounders they gave up for a 30 year old. It's early, and I know there's a lot more they probably want to do this offseason...but this trade really doesn't seem worth it so far. Maybe I'm reacting to seeing a number of articles arguing why it was still good to do - get better players*, show some sort of direction - but if they're not immediately better, then they have to be a ton better next year to make it seem like it was a good idea.

*The players they dumped were all so damn bad, it's almost shocking how decent guys like Brown and Theis look relative to them. I'm still very, very down on Markkanen and White though.
   2628. spivey 2 Posted: April 14, 2021 at 02:19 PM (#6013382)
Speaking of guys with a weak playoff reputation, Chris Paul. Man, I realize Phoenix being good this year isn't all him. But he is the biggest change from last year, and they're not just good. They're really ####### good. That's the shock of the season, to me.

That guy is such a (regular season) winner, and he's still doing it as an old.
   2629. tshipman Posted: April 14, 2021 at 03:08 PM (#6013389)
Phoenix being good is one of those things that has just flown under the radar.

They've been exceptionally healthy, played a lot better at home with a crowd, and are getting a little lucky with 3p defense.

The other weird thing about Phoenix is that their best lineups feature Dario Saric at center. Is that sustainable? Are they going to be successful with that in the playoffs?

I think everyone is sort of discounting Phoenix pretty significantly because they are really not getting a lot of discussion.
   2630. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 14, 2021 at 03:34 PM (#6013395)
Hey Ant, how do you feel about Alex Rodriguez being the new owner of the Minnesota Timberwolves?

Anthony Edwards: "Who is he?" pic.twitter.com/U7AFHMDxFu

— Dane Moore (@DaneMooreNBA) April 14, 2021
   2631. jmurph Posted: April 14, 2021 at 03:57 PM (#6013398)
The other weird thing about Phoenix is that their best lineups feature Dario Saric at center. Is that sustainable? Are they going to be successful with that in the playoffs?

I think in general they have a lot of guys I don't particularly trust, but regardless I was definitely wrong about them, I think I had them in the play-in range in the preseason picks.
   2632. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: April 14, 2021 at 04:40 PM (#6013410)
I would love to see PHX make a nice playoff run, if only for CP's legacy's sake. But yes, he was one of the redemption guys I was thinking most about in 2626 (if not him, then Giannis or to a less extent Harden or PG*; and on the team side any of Utah, BKN, DEN, LAC or even I guess PHI would fit).

*I say lesser since both are on a team with other guys who aren't saddled with that rep and they may not even be the main guy in a championship type run.
   2633. rr: cosmopolitan elite Posted: April 14, 2021 at 06:09 PM (#6013447)
Assuming the Lakers don't win the title, someone or some team's playoff reputation is going to be redeemed this year. And I honestly have no idea who it'll be.


Milwaukee and the Clippers are obviously most in need of that redemption narrative and either could get it.


   2634. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 14, 2021 at 06:21 PM (#6013450)
if BRK wins, who gets the credit for being "the best player on a championship team"?
   2635. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: April 14, 2021 at 06:29 PM (#6013455)
In that case, probably depends on who has the best series/wins Finals MVP.
   2636. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 14, 2021 at 09:15 PM (#6013475)
i would prefer not blowing a 22 point 4th quarter lead.
   2637. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: April 14, 2021 at 09:50 PM (#6013485)
Magic are beating the Bulls by 20+. What a ####### joke.
   2638. tshipman Posted: April 14, 2021 at 10:34 PM (#6013494)
The Bulls with Lavine and Vucevic on the court are scoring at a fantastic 132 ORTG.

However, they are giving up a 142 ORTG with those two on the court.

That's not even on fluky shooting on 3s. Opponents are shooting 37.5% from 3.

Just wow.
   2639. PJ Martinez Posted: April 14, 2021 at 10:44 PM (#6013498)
Seems pretty clear that, at the moment, two centers are battling it out for league MVP. Been a while since that happened, no?
   2640. smileyy Posted: April 15, 2021 at 12:43 AM (#6013525)
Insane game-winner from Luka tonight. His cool-shooting teammates also robbed him of 4-5 assists, if not more. He may not be what people expected of him this year and also he's still insanely good.
   2641. smileyy Posted: April 15, 2021 at 02:09 AM (#6013527)
Preceded of course by the schadenfreude of Grayson Allen bricking the 2 free throws that would have iced the game for the Grizzlies.
   2642. jmurph Posted: April 15, 2021 at 07:27 AM (#6013530)
That Luka winner was deeply stupid. I can't believe A. it went in B. he got it off in time or C. it was a 3. Ridiculous.
   2643. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: April 15, 2021 at 08:30 AM (#6013535)
I read in the Athletic that the Clippers are shooting over 40% as a team on 34 attempts a game, so checked their player stats. Can you guess who is leading the team in 3-pt FG%?
   2644. jmurph Posted: April 15, 2021 at 08:40 AM (#6013538)
Can you guess who is leading the team in 3-pt FG%?

Morris? At least I think he was at some point.
   2645. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: April 15, 2021 at 09:34 AM (#6013548)
Yep, Marcus Morris, .476
Luke Kennard, .460
Paul George, .441
Reggie Jackson, .424
   2646. PJ Martinez Posted: April 15, 2021 at 09:57 AM (#6013552)
What was going on with Memphis's defense on that Doncic game-winner? Obviously the shot was absurd, but the ball denial on the entry pass seemed a bit lacking.
   2647. PJ Martinez Posted: April 15, 2021 at 10:14 AM (#6013554)
On a separate note, seems like stiggles should be talking about Nerlens Noel more.
   2648. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 15, 2021 at 10:24 AM (#6013555)
On a separate note, seems like stiggles should be talking about Nerlens Noel, richaun holmes and jahlil okafor more.
FTFY.
   2649. PJ Martinez Posted: April 15, 2021 at 11:00 AM (#6013565)
LaMarcus Aldridge has a heart issue and is retiring.
   2650. jmurph Posted: April 15, 2021 at 11:03 AM (#6013566)
Wow that's quite a shock. Hope his health is okay in retirement.
   2651. Your favorite TFTIO, me! Posted: April 15, 2021 at 11:16 AM (#6013569)
I'm not convinced on Edwards as a player but he's already on the All-NBA interview team.
   2652. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: April 15, 2021 at 11:24 AM (#6013570)
That's a real bummer for LMA, and also for BKN.

That statement makes it sound like he's ok now, but decided it wasn't worth risking playing anymore. That couldn't have been an easy decision to make.
   2653. spivey 2 Posted: April 15, 2021 at 12:20 PM (#6013581)
I actually think that Brooklyn is probably better off without LMA on their roster so they don't give him more minutes than they should. I don't think he was a good fit.

But it's still sad news in general. Aldridge was a Longhorn when I went to school there. He's had a great career. And it seems like he made the right decision. I'll miss him.
   2654. . . . . . . Posted: April 15, 2021 at 01:26 PM (#6013592)
The LMA announcement is a little funny because, basically, its bullshit. The type of arrhythmia that LMA has is mostly harmless and he could play through it. It's probably annoying to him that he had breakthrough disease after ablations (speaking from personal experience, it totally sucks), but this is not a career ender.

He's just done with playing ball, holistically.
   2655. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 15, 2021 at 01:33 PM (#6013595)
The LMA announcement is a little funny because, basically, its bullshit. The type of arrhythmia that LMA has is mostly harmless and he could play through it. It's probably annoying to him that he had breakthrough disease after ablations (speaking from personal experience, it totally sucks), but this is not a career ender.

He's just done with playing ball, holistically.

fun fact:
this is what ended hank gathers career.

and life.


you can go #### the #### off, holistically.
   2656. . . . . . . Posted: April 15, 2021 at 02:15 PM (#6013602)
fun fact:
this is what ended hank gathers career.

and life.


you can go #### the #### off, holistically


fun fact: you don't know what the #### you're talking about - I mean, all the time, but here in particular. LMA has wolff-parkinson-white syndrome, which generally causes two flavors of arrhythmia: paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia and atrial fibrillation. Both are unpleasant - supraventricular tachycardia particularly so - but mostly harmless. For most, the arrhythmias don't happen that often and can be well-treated with abalations or anti-arrhythmic medicines. Not only is athletic activity not particularly risky, it's encouraged.

I know this because I have a very similar congenital conduction disorder. I can't say I'm happy when I flip into arrhythmia, but you bite the bullet and get it treated and it goes back to normal. Its scary AF the first couple of times it happens but its also scary the first time you jizz yourself, and then you figure it out and deal.

LMA is retiring because he's just done with all the bullshit. It's not a medical retirement - that's a figleaf.
   2657. jmurph Posted: April 15, 2021 at 02:53 PM (#6013615)
Anytime you can impugn someone's motives for abruptly retiring for health reasons you've simply got to do it.
   2658. Fourth True Outcome Posted: April 15, 2021 at 02:55 PM (#6013616)
I know nothing of LMA's diagnosis, mental state, etc, but the fact that they guy just signed with the Nets instead of walking away post-buyout and is sitting 49 points shy of 20K for his career suggests that he may not simply be over it here.
   2659. tshipman Posted: April 15, 2021 at 03:15 PM (#6013619)
Welcome to another edition of shitty takes! Today we're going to judge someone else's medical condition based on news reports and the complete lack of a medical degree.

Is a professional athlete a ##### for not continuing to play, or is he just lazy? You decide!
   2660. CFBF's Results are Certified Posted: April 15, 2021 at 03:22 PM (#6013622)
If Aldridge wanted to retire because he was simply done and just wanted to retire, wouldn't he just do that? Why would he even need a fig leaf? So a half-dozen sportswriters he'd never have to talk to again wouldn't write some half-ass take about him leaving in the Nets in the lurch or something, all of which would be forgotten by the weekend?
   2661. Hot Wheeling American Posted: April 15, 2021 at 03:43 PM (#6013625)
*Predator handshake meme where a dozen fists are deservedly dumping on zop*
   2662. . . . . . . Posted: April 15, 2021 at 05:21 PM (#6013666)
https://nypost.com/2021/04/15/lamarcus-aldridge-announces-nba-retirement-after-heart-issue/

So look, the media is basically confirming everything I wrote. It was "scary".


You might not think this matter, but you're coming from a place of privilege of not having heart issues. I've been kicked out of leagues because "there's liability concerns" even though my cardiologist (and any other cardiologist) writes them letters explaining there's I have no more risk of a dangerous cardiac event than any other guy in the league. When I've told people about my problem - and sometimes you have to, so you can take a day off for the annual check up - false public narratives like the one LMA is spreading make colleagues treat me like some sort of cardiac cripple. It's INFURIATING to see someone hide behind this when you know its false. I remember someone earnestly asking me "if my heart could stand up to work stress". Of course it can.

Perhaps the most charitable way to put it is that LMA had ablations in 2007 and 2011, and he probably needs one again. He's not in the mood to get one, so he's quitting basketball. Note that random #### like a nightmare or particularly good weed will trigger is arrhythmia just as easily (or more easily) than playing basketball.

But the dude could suit up tomorrow with no medical restrictions.
   2663. bob gee Posted: April 15, 2021 at 06:43 PM (#6013686)
J.R. Richard says hi.
   2664. Shohei Brotani (formerly LA Hombre) Posted: April 15, 2021 at 07:01 PM (#6013693)
I've been kicked out of leagues because "there's liability concerns" even though my cardiologist (and any other cardiologist) writes them letters explaining there's I have no more risk of a dangerous cardiac event than any other guy in the league.
I, too, think it's reasonable to compare my rec league activities to that of NBA players.
   2665. Fourth True Outcome Posted: April 15, 2021 at 07:49 PM (#6013702)
I also think there is a comfortable amount of daylight between the positions "it is physically possible to play in the NBA with his condition" and "LMA is over the bullshit and this is an excuse".
   2666. PJ Martinez Posted: April 15, 2021 at 08:04 PM (#6013707)
In other news, Jayson Tatum, over the last 11 games, is finally having the kind of run he had in the second half of last season: a hair under 30 points on 50/40/90 splits plus 8 rebounds and 4 assists per game. The Celtics are 8-3 in that stretch. He's also apparently using an inhaler now before games; sounds like his lungs have still not fully recovered from covid, which he had early in the year. (February, the first month after he came back, sticks out like a sore thumb in his monthly splits.)

Sustaining something like this for a while is probably what it takes to put Boston at the top of the mushy middle in the East. Miami's lost a couple in a row, but I still think there are basically three tiers now: PHI/MIL/BRK, ATL/BOS/MIA, NYK/IND/CHA. Also, with apologies to the Bulls fans, it looks to me like TOR may nip CHI for the other play-in spot...
   2667. Your favorite TFTIO, me! Posted: April 15, 2021 at 08:24 PM (#6013710)
WHO CARES? I hope LMA is happy with his decision and I would expect that he's operating with significantly more information than we are.
   2668. If on a winter's night a traveling violation Posted: April 15, 2021 at 08:27 PM (#6013711)
LMA has wolff-parkinson-white syndrome, which generally causes two flavors of arrhythmia: paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia and atrial fibrillation. Both are unpleasant - supraventricular tachycardia particularly so - but mostly harmless. For most, the arrhythmias don't happen that often and can be well-treated with abalations or anti-arrhythmic medicines.
Those are what we call load-bearing mostlys; emphasis mine, of course. I'm glad to hear an informed judgement that a severe or deadly cardiac event is unlikely to come of this; but even granting all of what you said, unlikelihood ≠ certainty, and there are enough differences between your two cases (LMA is an extreme outlier in height and in the physical stresses of the job he's leaving, either of which could lead his doctors to say different things than yours) that jumping on his character like that is not a good look.
   2669. Mayor Blomberg Posted: April 15, 2021 at 09:12 PM (#6013718)
arrhythmia asolutely is scary as ####, and not comfortable.
   2670. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 15, 2021 at 11:00 PM (#6013728)
https://nypost.com/2021/04/15/lamarcus-aldridge-announces-nba-retirement-after-heart-issue/

So look, the media is basically confirming everything I wrote. It was "scary".

"the media" /= "new york post dotcom"
   2671. spivey 2 Posted: April 16, 2021 at 09:12 AM (#6013763)
My wife is a veterinary cardiologist with quite a bit of familiarity with Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome and the treatment paths for it. I explained to her dzop's position and she said "That's a stupid take." I don't understand why you guys even argue with him.
   2672. PJ Martinez Posted: April 16, 2021 at 12:23 PM (#6013790)
Three-time NBA champion @DwyaneWade has purchased an ownership stake in the Utah Jazz, joining majority owner and governor
@RyanQualtrics with plans to take an active role in the franchise and region.
Huh!
   2673. SteveF Posted: April 16, 2021 at 12:36 PM (#6013795)
I thought the Jazz were owned by Vernon Maxwell?
   2674. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: April 16, 2021 at 01:16 PM (#6013801)
In other news, Jayson Tatum, over the last 11 games, is finally having the kind of run he had in the second half of last season: a hair under 30 points on 50/40/90 splits plus 8 rebounds and 4 assists per game. The Celtics are 8-3 in that stretch. He's also apparently using an inhaler now before games; sounds like his lungs have still not fully recovered from covid, which he had early in the year. (February, the first month after he came back, sticks out like a sore thumb in his monthly splits.)

I have asthma and using an inhaler never made me as efficient in any of my pickup games. I think he's clearly using PEDs (there are a lot of inhalers that include some type of steroid, so I'm clearly correct).
   2675. Athletic Supporter is USDA certified lean Posted: April 16, 2021 at 01:18 PM (#6013803)
My wife is a veterinary cardiologist with quite a bit of familiarity with Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome and the treatment paths for it. I explained to her dzop's position and she said "That's a stupid take." I don't understand why you guys even argue with him.


So, basically you agree that LaMarcus Aldridge is a #####.
   2676. Shohei Brotani (formerly LA Hombre) Posted: April 16, 2021 at 02:14 PM (#6013817)
I thought the Jazz were owned by Vernon Maxwell?
Ooh, classic burn. +1.
   2677. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 16, 2021 at 06:53 PM (#6013892)
Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
#sixers vs Clippers starting lineups:
PHI: Simmons, Korkmaz, Green, Scott, Embiid
LAC: Jackson, Kennard, George, Morris, Zubac



battle of the titans over here.
   2678. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 16, 2021 at 07:18 PM (#6013898)
Tom Haberstroh @tomhaberstroh
The Utah Jazz seems like the last franchise that you’d expect Dwyane Wade to invest in. But knowing his track record, that’s probably a large reason why he made that move. Li-Ning or signing with the Bulls, he doesn’t seem to care much for convention.
   2679. tshipman Posted: April 16, 2021 at 07:51 PM (#6013904)
Really bad Donovan Mitchell ankle injury.
   2680. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 16, 2021 at 08:09 PM (#6013908)
the sixers have two leading DPOY candidates, and i'm not sure that either one is actually a better defender than matisse thybulle.
   2681. PJ Martinez Posted: April 16, 2021 at 09:19 PM (#6013919)
Celtics signed Jabari Parker, which seems fine as a low-risk move for adding end-of-bench wing depth with some possible scoring punch. They waived Wagner, who was clearly behind Kornet (and possibly Fall) in the center rotation.

Anyone know why the Kings just didn't play him at all this season? I've watched him enough to have a sense of his limitations, but it's not like Sacramento is lighting the world on fire. He couldn't get into more than three games all year?
   2682. tshipman Posted: April 16, 2021 at 10:24 PM (#6013927)
Mo Wagner is weird in that he seemingly puts up decent enough numbers, but every team that has him immediately wants to get rid of him.

What's up with that?
   2683. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 16, 2021 at 10:45 PM (#6013930)
Mo Wagner is weird in that he seemingly puts up decent enough numbers, but every team that has him immediately wants to get rid of him.

What's up with that?

is he a spencer hawes/sam dekker/meyers leonard all-star?
   2684. PJ Martinez Posted: April 16, 2021 at 10:51 PM (#6013931)
I can't speak to previous teams, but he had a -1.0 PER in his nine games with Boston. I honestly didn't even know you could have a negative PER.

He averaged a turnover every seven minutes even though he didn't get the ball that much. Small sample size, but still.
   2685. Randomly Fluctuating Defensive Metric Posted: April 17, 2021 at 08:38 AM (#6013947)
I think the Knicks win last night was their best in almost nine or so years. Just extremely satisfying to takedown the Mavs with Randle having a monster game. I'm not totally sold on Barrett's future yet (I think he's more of a good starter on a true contender opposed to key piece) but it is hard to ask for a better season from Thibs and Co. The best part is that they are showing a sound process on the trade market. Nothing's been compromised for this short-term pleasant surprise.
   2686. Ken Griffey's Grotesquely Swollen Jaw Posted: April 17, 2021 at 11:01 AM (#6013966)
also, Giannis headbutted Mo a few years ago for guarding him like a coward. might not explain why Mo's own teams don't like him but worth mentioning.
   2687. PJ Martinez Posted: April 17, 2021 at 02:37 PM (#6013996)
Are the Knicks better than the Heat?
   2688. tshipman Posted: April 17, 2021 at 02:56 PM (#6014001)
Are the Knicks better than the Heat?


The Knicks currently have a league leading .336 3p% against. If they had opponents hit the same percentage of 3s that the Heat's opponents have hit, they would give up an additional 3.2 points per game, giving them a worse point differential than the Heat.

In addition, the Heat have had significant injury issues, with only one of the Heat's starters (Duncan Robinson) having been available for every game.

This is a pretty easy "no."
   2689. Shohei Brotani (formerly LA Hombre) Posted: April 17, 2021 at 06:02 PM (#6014045)
Watching the Jazz, led by Bojan Bogdanavic and Jordan Clarkson, go at the Lakers, led by Andre Drummond and Dennis Schroder, is a real experience. I could do with less of it.
   2690. Fourth True Outcome Posted: April 17, 2021 at 06:21 PM (#6014054)
I feel like Mo Wagner's problem isn't that he's bad, it's that he's totally fungible. Good enough to play, not good enough to start. Decent shooting, but not enough from deep so far to think he'll become a good stretch 5 or any other specific sort of threat. Mediocre defense. Still on his rookie deal. He seems like the kinda guy that is good enough to keep on your roster but not good enough to prioritize over a given other player. Also a useful throw in to a trade if you need to add a couple million dollars your roster won't really miss. So he gets included in a few trades, and loses the game of musical chairs for the last big man spot in Boston when they decide to sign Parker. I'm sure he'll get picked up somewhere, and I'm about as sure that he won't get prioritized there unless his 3P% jumps there or something else about his game clicks.
   2691. tshipman Posted: April 17, 2021 at 10:53 PM (#6014090)
Curry in the last month or so is basically the hottest anyone in the NBA has been since either Curry himself in 2016, or Kobe in the month where he dropped 81 and 67 in 3 quarters.
   2692. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 17, 2021 at 11:14 PM (#6014095)
Curry in the last month or so is basically the hottest anyone in the NBA has been since either Curry himself in 2016, or Kobe in the month where he dropped 81 and 67 in 3 quarters.

and andrew wiggins.


fun fact:

the progression of wiggins' nicknames on bkref, if not for "mr fantastic", would be almost perfect:

Maple Jordan, Junior Jordan, The Prospect, Mr. Fantastic, Wiggs, Hey You
   2693. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 19, 2021 at 10:29 AM (#6014238)
After missing three weeks with a bone bruise in his left knee, Embiid has now played in 38 of the 76ers’ 56 games. If he plays every game for the rest of Philadelphia’s season—which, even assuming no new injuries, seems unlikely, given the value of keeping the big fella fresh—and logs his season average of just over 32 minutes in all of them, he’d end the regular season with 54 appearances and about 1,740 minutes. With a month still to go, Jokic has already played in more games (56) and played more minutes (1,972) than that

...Barring the use of a baseball bat, or perhaps an extra large fishing net—both illegal as of press time—it’s unclear how exactly you’re supposed to stop this dude.
   2694. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 19, 2021 at 10:55 AM (#6014242)
OH MY GODDDDDDD ZION WANTS TO BE A KNICK SO BAD NO WAY HE SAID THIS
pic.twitter.com/kl3MsUBVkv

— Fredo (@goknickstape) April 18, 2021
   2695. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 19, 2021 at 01:02 PM (#6014256)
[horcats pbp announcer] Eric Collins is a Gus Johnson reboot produced and directed by J.J. Abrams. Johnson isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but at least his shrieking is for the most part scaled to the intensity of the action on the floor. Collins’s deal is he shrieks at everything. Miles Bridges makes a layup in traffic: OHHHHHH MY GOOOOOOOOOOD WHOOP-DI-DOOOOOOO AHHHHHHHHHHHH!! Devonte Graham is fouled on a three-pointer: GRAHAM AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HUM-DIDDLY-DEE HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOWWWWWWWW!!!!! Terry Rozier steps to the line and makes two free throws, in a February home game against the Steph Curry-less Golden State Warriors? AHHH YEAHHHHH TERRY TWOOOOOOOOO BEAUTIES!!! That’s not an exaggeration! Here is video evidence of this exact moment.


and this page comes full circle.
   2696. jmurph Posted: April 19, 2021 at 01:13 PM (#6014259)
I like that this top recruit who just committed to Gonzaga is like, what if Poku but even skinnier?

Side note: Is it possible to have a great modern basketball player named Chet? I'm skeptical.
   2697. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: April 19, 2021 at 01:32 PM (#6014261)
Since the beginning of April—18 days’ worth of games in total—there have been four separate days with two 20-point blowouts, two calendar days with three 20-point blowouts and two calendar days with four 20-point blowouts.

By contrast, there have been only four days—the 6th, 9th, 15th and the 18th—with no games decided by 20 or more.

If that sounds strange, it’s because it is. According to the folks over at Stats Perform, 20.5% of games since the All-Star break have been decided by 20 points or more, tied for the second-highest rate in NBA history. You have to go back 53 years to the 1967–68 campaign to find the last time more than 20.5% of games after the break played out in such lopsided fashion.


link
   2698. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: April 19, 2021 at 02:08 PM (#6014263)
I feel like there about 10 different teams that might be able to win the championship right now. I think the Lakers would be the slight favorites but considering how much time both Lebron and Anthony Davis have missed it makes it hard to know how good they will be. I do not think that Annette have played more than 5 or 6 games with the big 3 altogether. They still do not have anybody in the middle who could provide any resistance in my opinion to Embiid. The Sixers have arguably the most dominant player in the MBA right now but his health is always in question. The clippers could certainly with the championship. Milwaukee certainly has been very good over the last few years and they appear to be better than last year even if the record does not show that. I would not be surprising for me to see a team like the Suns or the Jazz when the championship either depending on who they play and who is hurt.


How do people feel about the Warriors over the next few years? Wiseman did not have a great rookie year and is also going to miss much of the off season rehabbing from injury. Curry is amazing this year and I do not think they can expect him to be better. Getting Thompson back will help this team is 10th overall in the western conference. Wiggins has not been great but he has been better-than-expected I believe. I do not think Green is ever going to be a great player again. He is still pretty good defensively but he is just not very good offenses really at all. How do they build a contender? Thompson is going to help but again this team is in very good and expecting him to come back after missing 2 years and be a huge difference maker seems optimistic.
   2699. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 19, 2021 at 02:15 PM (#6014265)
hey russian... have you tried using a mobile keyboard that's not cyrillic?
   2700. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: April 19, 2021 at 02:22 PM (#6014267)
Haha, trying out a dictation software, works well in the program, not so well in the browser.

It is RussLan, btw.
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