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Friday, May 21, 2021

NBA 2021 Playoffs+ thread

I estimate there are maybe 10-12 Primates left on this site, and they all post in the NBA thread.

Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: May 21, 2021 at 01:07 PM | 1217 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1101. Crosseyed and Painless Posted: June 10, 2021 at 08:28 PM (#6023664)
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuce
   1102. Shohei Brotani (formerly LA Hombre) Posted: June 10, 2021 at 08:46 PM (#6023665)
Bobby Portis, domination.
   1103. spivey 2 Posted: June 10, 2021 at 09:47 PM (#6023669)
Fourth quarter offense has been cringe bad by the Bucks.
   1104. spivey 2 Posted: June 10, 2021 at 09:53 PM (#6023672)
I swear to Christ you’d think Brooklyn has the better defense watching crunch time here.
   1105. asinwreck Posted: June 10, 2021 at 09:56 PM (#6023673)
Bricklayer convention in Wisconsin.
   1106. Crosseyed and Painless Posted: June 10, 2021 at 09:59 PM (#6023675)
This is something else.
   1107. spivey 2 Posted: June 10, 2021 at 10:01 PM (#6023676)
Brooklyn is getting decent looks. Outside of one or two shots for the Bucks, they are getting nothing easy. There are no plays. Just lazy flare outs for their big 3 who then have to go 1v5. Giannis’ hands have been awful as a roller here in the fourth. Ugh.
   1108. spivey 2 Posted: June 10, 2021 at 10:04 PM (#6023678)
God damn Durant is good. Excited for a new coach. This team (Bucks) probably only has 2 more really good years left. Need to stop ####### about.
   1109. spivey 2 Posted: June 10, 2021 at 10:06 PM (#6023680)
To say they’ve let em play this fourth quarter would be an understatement
   1110. jmurph Posted: June 10, 2021 at 10:10 PM (#6023684)
Bruce Brown on that previous possession looked like if one of us got dropped into crunch time of an NBA playoff game. Just lost his mind.
   1111. asinwreck Posted: June 10, 2021 at 10:13 PM (#6023687)
In the first competitive game of this series, I was expecting both offenses to look better.
   1112. spivey 2 Posted: June 10, 2021 at 10:16 PM (#6023690)
The Brown drive wasn’t good but Irving is out of bounds, the lane was open, and Tucker was playing excellent ball denial d on Durant the last few minutes. It took a couple #### ups for him to be in that situation. No one was nearby or open with like 7 seconds left. I think he should have gone into the body of Brolo and gone for a foul call though.
   1113. jmurph Posted: June 10, 2021 at 10:36 PM (#6023708)
Yeah that’s fair. In real time it felt worse than on replay.
   1114. spivey 2 Posted: June 10, 2021 at 10:48 PM (#6023714)
Bruce Brown is getting killed on Twitter, but that’s an unacceptable inbounds pass that that time and score.
   1115. Moeball Posted: June 10, 2021 at 11:07 PM (#6023719)
Good grief if Milwaukee is having this much trouble scoring and winning at home, they really have no chance in this series. This is the 3rd straight game where they have made Brooklyn's defense look good and that's difficult to do. Given how much they are struggling trying to score - a common problem that continues to plague them from postseasons past - I have to believe that for the 2021 playoffs, the Bucks stop here.
   1116. Mike A Posted: June 10, 2021 at 11:25 PM (#6023721)
Calling timeout and resetting would have probably been the best option rather than let Brown pull a Carlton.

The last 20 seconds is kinda painful: Brown misses 15-foot jumper. Holiday spins by Brown for go-ahead layup. Brown misses driving layup. Ball game.
   1117. smileyy Posted: June 10, 2021 at 11:28 PM (#6023722)
Donovan Mitchell is very good at throwing a ball into a small circle from far away.
   1118. Tin Angel Posted: June 11, 2021 at 12:05 AM (#6023728)
Why do networks assume the audience is interested in watching Steve Ballmer celebrate?
   1119. tshipman Posted: June 11, 2021 at 12:09 AM (#6023729)
Why do networks assume the audience is interested in watching Steve Ballmer celebrate?


DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
   1120. phredbird Posted: June 11, 2021 at 12:45 AM (#6023734)

i went down to the pool because the jazz/clippers game looked done, but i get back and it's turned into a barnburner.

   1121. phredbird Posted: June 11, 2021 at 12:47 AM (#6023735)

i want them to beat each others brains out so the winner will be softened up for the suns, so this is looking good.
   1122. phredbird Posted: June 11, 2021 at 12:49 AM (#6023736)

... and just like that the clippers do crap shot selection while the jazz start hitting threes ...
   1123. GregD Posted: June 11, 2021 at 12:58 AM (#6023738)
When you have Reggie jackson you just have to let him do what Reggie jackson do
   1124. PJ Martinez Posted: June 11, 2021 at 08:26 AM (#6023750)
Jazz's Game 2 defensive rating with Rudy Gobert on the floor: 97.3
Jazz's Game 2 defensive rating with Rudy Gobert off the floor: 169.6
   1125. spivey 2 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 09:39 AM (#6023755)
Good grief if Milwaukee is having this much trouble scoring and winning at home, they really have no chance in this series. This is the 3rd straight game where they have made Brooklyn's defense look good and that's difficult to do. Given how much they are struggling trying to score - a common problem that continues to plague them from postseasons past - I have to believe that for the 2021 playoffs, the Bucks stop here.


My only hope is that they start shooting well. Even with Giannis taking way too many 3s, they were one of the best 3 point shooting teams in the NBA during the regular season. That opens up a bunch of other stuff if you have to respect the shot.
   1126. Ken Griffey's Grotesquely Swollen Jaw Posted: June 11, 2021 at 10:50 AM (#6023758)
I think Bucks/Nets is over. The Bucks played the same essential scheme last night as in the first two, the Nets just missed shots. Maybe the Bucks will start hitting 3s and get another game or two but all the structural issues they had in the first two games were still there last night: uninspired offense and exploitable defense.

Also Giannis has reverted to the beginning of the season, where he wouldn't play aggressively without taking a bunch of dumbass shots.
   1127. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: June 11, 2021 at 11:17 AM (#6023766)
I was willing to cut the Clips a little slack for game 1, since they did just come off a long 7 game series and the Jazz were "fresher". I also want to cut them a little slack for last night for 3pt variance. But the Jazz aren't the Mavs (and also aren't 100%). 0-2 isn't dead, but more willing to start writing them off this series than I was last one. The Clips haven't shown any inclination (willingness?) of adjusting their defense to deal with a wing scorer even though they employ several good to great wing defenders. I mean, the Jazz are good, so I'm not trying slight them here.

---

Why the #### is Giannis shooting 8 3s in a game?
   1128. jmurph Posted: June 11, 2021 at 11:23 AM (#6023767)
I was willing to cut the Clips a little slack for game 1, since they did just come off a long 7 game series and the Jazz were "fresher". I also want to cut them a little slack for last night for 3pt variance. But the Jazz aren't the Mavs (and also aren't 100%). 0-2 isn't dead, but more willing to start writing them off this series than I was last one. The Clips haven't shown any inclination (willingness?) of adjusting their defense to deal with a wing scorer even though they employ several good to great wing defenders. I mean, the Jazz are good, so I'm not trying slight them here.

The Jazz are so good at finding shooters, too, I don't expect the zone thing to be as effective again now that they've seen it (can't find the tweet with the numbers, but it was pretty effective for the Clippers last night).
   1129. spivey 2 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 12:06 PM (#6023774)
Why the #### is Giannis shooting 8 3s in a game?


Because Bud has no control over the offense, or from what I can tell, what even a good offense should look like, except at a very big picture (3s and dunks). Giannis can't help but try to play hero ball when the other team starts making shots, and that's one of the big problems. The next coach needs to reign that in.

I'm starting to come to the conclusion Giannis will just be more of a play finisher for his career - kind of like AD, just a really good #2. You just can't have him be your main initiator and have a good playoff offense. His dribbling and passing are both well below what you want your primary initiator, too. Trouble is, he was fumbling a lot of roll passes from Middleton that weren't that bad of passes, so he needs to get used to that skill as well. He was never going to develop a great 3pt shot imo, but his dribbling and passing haven't meaningfully improved from a few years ago.

Even when Milwaukee is running the PnR with 2 of their best players, it's done so slowly. Rarely is anyone really trying to get downhill at the basket and initiate rotations. Some of this is personnel, of course. But man, I think they need to let Jrue run more of the offense. Middleton is best doing secondary playmaking where he can shoot or attack a close out, imo. Passes and reads are easier in that situation, too.

The one thing I'll say about Milwaukee's defense is it did seem like they were fighting through screens more, and Tucker was playing pretty inspired defense on Durant, at least in the fourth quarter. Of course Durant made some great shots because he's Kevin Durant. They were trying to make Bruce Brown beat them with the midrange floater. It's a good thing for them that he took about as many shots as Kyrie and Durant.
   1130. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: June 11, 2021 at 01:14 PM (#6023781)
Torn labrums are the hot injury this summer it appears. Coby White and Siakam so far.
   1131. Paul d mobile Posted: June 11, 2021 at 01:22 PM (#6023783)
Is Bud definitely gone if the Bucks lose this series? Even if it's a 7 game series?
   1132. Your favorite TFTIO, me! Posted: June 11, 2021 at 01:23 PM (#6023784)
Is Bud definitely gone if the Bucks lose this series? Even if it's a 7 game series?

What else can they chanage, really?
   1133. tshipman Posted: June 11, 2021 at 01:34 PM (#6023788)
Is Bud definitely gone if the Bucks lose this series? Even if it's a 7 game series?


Bud may be gone even if they win this series.

Jazz's Game 2 defensive rating with Rudy Gobert on the floor: 97.3
Jazz's Game 2 defensive rating with Rudy Gobert off the floor: 169.6


These stats are basically always misleading. Sure enough, the Clippers hit 50% of their 3 pointers with Rudy off the court.
   1134. tshipman Posted: June 11, 2021 at 02:35 PM (#6023796)
Interesting note from the Nets/Bucks game.

This guy who ran on the court during last night's game apparently is KD's personal bodyguard.
   1135. jmurph Posted: June 11, 2021 at 02:40 PM (#6023797)
The league is probably not thrilled about a player's bodyguard rushing the court. Although, please, if it ever appears that I am going to be in a physical altercation with PJ Tucker, send help.
   1136. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: June 11, 2021 at 02:48 PM (#6023799)
Jazz benefited from some shot variance luck, but it's also easier to prevent open looks at threes if you know you have Rudy behind you.

Andrew Greif
@AndrewGreif
·
12h
In the paint vs. UTA, however, Clippers have shot 25-68 (36%).

Vs. DAL, they shot 60% in the paint.


I think PG is the only Clipper player that's really even trying to challenge Rudy at the rim, and not a whole lot even then.
   1137. spivey 2 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 03:07 PM (#6023800)
PJ Tucker's career amazes me. I remember after he washed out of the NBA initially, when I heard he was playing SG for Phoenix in 12-13 and was actually pretty solid, I did a double take. I think they need to ride him. If Giannis isn't going to guard Durant, Tucker needs to be guarding him 30 minutes a game.
   1138. smileyy Posted: June 11, 2021 at 03:21 PM (#6023803)
I agree about Giannis not being the initiator in the half court. I think the announcers suggested that at one point too.
   1139. tshipman Posted: June 11, 2021 at 03:28 PM (#6023806)
PJ Tucker's career amazes me. I remember after he washed out of the NBA initially, when I heard he was playing SG for Phoenix in 12-13 and was actually pretty solid, I did a double take. I think they need to ride him. If Giannis isn't going to guard Durant, Tucker needs to be guarding him 30 minutes a game.


Something I sort of idly wonder about is whether PJ Tucker is in the league if Steph/GSW don't go crazy with 3s in 2016. The league has changed so much since then, and I wonder if that change was inevitable, or if it required a catalyst.
   1140. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: June 11, 2021 at 03:53 PM (#6023811)
I think eventually math was going to win out, but I also definitely think the warriors made it happen faster than it might have on its own.
   1141. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 05:07 PM (#6023821)
I think eventually math was going to win out, but I also definitely think the warriors made it happen faster than it might have on its own.
expecting americans to change their behavior because of math is...a choice.
   1142. rr: cosmopolitan elite Posted: June 11, 2021 at 05:12 PM (#6023822)
LAC/Utah: Gobert is a fact of life. The thing in that series is that Mitchell, not Leonard, has been the superstar so far, which has made up for the loss of Conley. If Mitchell starts shooting more like he normally does and Leonard goes nuts a few times again, (and Clarkson cools off a little) then the Clippers can stage another comeback. But Utah is better than Dallas, so we will see.

BKN/MIL: I have bagged on Middleton, but he deserves a lot of credit for his performance in G2. I would not write off Milwaukee yet, but it does look bad for them. I think Budenholzer will get fired unless they make the Finals.
   1143. Ken Griffey's Grotesquely Swollen Jaw Posted: June 11, 2021 at 05:37 PM (#6023825)
I agree about Giannis not being the initiator in the half court. I think the announcers suggested that at one point too.

Giannis can initiate, he's really good at it if he gets the ball at the ft line or elbows and can either make a move or draw attention and dump it off to the dunker spot. He gets in trouble when he has to bring it all the way in from beyond the arc. Which of course is what he's been doing, for whatever reason.
   1144. Ken Griffey's Grotesquely Swollen Jaw Posted: June 11, 2021 at 05:39 PM (#6023826)
The Nets have also been really good about immediately doubling Giannis when he gets the ball down low, attacking the ball in his favorite spots. He usually figures stuff like that out over a series though.
   1145. tshipman Posted: June 11, 2021 at 07:36 PM (#6023835)
I keep forgetting that Sixers/Hawks is a real series that is happening.
   1146. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 07:57 PM (#6023837)
I keep forgetting that Sixers/Hawks is a real series that is happening.
is this a subtwit? have i been too quiet?
   1147. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 07:59 PM (#6023838)
this is an ugly game.

i'm okay with that.
   1148. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 08:00 PM (#6023839)
i do so love matisse thybulle.
   1149. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 08:13 PM (#6023840)
dwight howard and george hill are playing like they're drunk.
   1150. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 08:14 PM (#6023841)
This guy who ran on the court during last night's game apparently is KD's personal bodyguard.
that's gotta be a 250K fine, right?
   1151. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 09:05 PM (#6023847)
are these announcers at the game?


*edit* the clueless guy (not hubie brown) just said they can't see anything; they're 40 rows up.
   1152. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 09:08 PM (#6023848)
and embiid just pulled up lame.

eeyore.
   1153. smileyy Posted: June 11, 2021 at 09:09 PM (#6023849)
Every once in a while I remember when I predicted that Embiid would never play an NBA game.
   1154. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 09:12 PM (#6023850)
Every once in a while I remember when I predicted that Embiid would never play an NBA game.

1312. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: November 16, 2017 at 03:19 PM (#5577543)
trade machine: who says no?

MIL: anthony davis, courtney lee, jerryd bayless
NOP: giannis antetokounmpo, joakim noah, frank ntilikina
NYK: joel embiid, matthew dellavedova, alexis ajinca
PHI: kristaps porzingis, mirza teletovic, etwaun moore
   1155. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: June 11, 2021 at 09:15 PM (#6023852)
Embiid finishing a monster oop while he can barely jog and is grimacing with every step.
   1156. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 09:17 PM (#6023853)
776. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: July 08, 2015 at 04:18 PM (#4995178)
Jazz fans hoping for Exum to be good isn't even the most optimistic take on a 2014 draft pick on this page.
851. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: July 09, 2015 at 03:38 AM (#4995613)
embiid is either gonna be a star, or i'll keep talking about how he'll be a star until his foot gets amputated.
   1157. smileyy Posted: June 11, 2021 at 09:17 PM (#6023854)
Porzingis should not be your first choice of 7'+ players
   1158. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 09:19 PM (#6023855)
kevin huerter went to dook, right?
   1159. smileyy Posted: June 11, 2021 at 09:28 PM (#6023856)
Google says Maryland.
   1160. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 09:32 PM (#6023857)
embiid blocking shots with his armpit.
Google says Maryland.

but he transferred from dook before that, right?
   1161. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 09:35 PM (#6023858)
i don't get these substitution patterns for the sixers.

embiid should be playing tight 6 minute shifts; 6 on, 4 off. tharris should be playing whole halves.



every time i see a close up of tharris, he's bone dry. he can't move enough to need this much rest.
   1162. smileyy Posted: June 11, 2021 at 09:56 PM (#6023860)
Why is Embiid even in the game?
   1163. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: June 11, 2021 at 10:11 PM (#6023863)
Why is Embiid even in the game?
...because the game isn't over?
   1164. Shohei Brotani (formerly LA Hombre) Posted: June 11, 2021 at 10:52 PM (#6023866)
Deep analysis: Chris Paul is winning his match-up against Austin Rivers and Facundo Campazzo.
   1165. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: June 11, 2021 at 11:25 PM (#6023870)
The Western Conference finals is going to be a standard 1-seed v 2-seed matchup after all those predictions at the beginning of the post-season otherwise.
   1166. Athletic Supporter is USDA certified lean Posted: June 12, 2021 at 12:40 AM (#6023873)
I know the dude is a dirty inveterate nut puncher, but I can't help but feel happy for Chris Paul.
   1167. rr: cosmopolitan elite Posted: June 12, 2021 at 12:47 AM (#6023874)
1165

Utah hasn't won yet, and like I said, I don't take predictions--mine or anyone else's--seriously anyway. But I did say a few times that that I thought some people were too dismissive of Phoenix and Utah. Phoenix caught the Lakers without Davis and Denver without Murray--which is how things often work when your team is on a run: matchups and injuries break your way. Given all the bad breaks that Paul has caught in postseason in his career, seems like he was due for it to go the other way once.
   1168. rr: cosmopolitan elite Posted: June 12, 2021 at 12:48 AM (#6023875)
but I can't help but feel happy for Chris Paul


I wouldn't go that far myself, but if this gets him more of his due on the all-time greats list, that is a good thing.
   1169. spivey 2 Posted: June 12, 2021 at 11:38 AM (#6023893)
Denver isn't bad, of course. But they've won 3 playoff series the last 2 years, and their point differential in just those series is -13 (individual series below). That's crazy. That's also setting aside that in at least the Clippers series, the shot quality stats I saw at the time were clearly in favor of the Clippers.

+8: Portland
-24: Utah
+3: Clippers

Point being, even with Jokic's greatness and accounting for 3pt variance, I think they have just run into a better team, and aren't having the luck they've had in previous series.

As for Paul, the narrative is nice now, but narratives change game to game in the playoffs. Twitter and the media are thirsty to #### on you the second things stop going well. I think they need to at least make the Finals for his legacy to get the bump.
   1170. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: June 12, 2021 at 12:10 PM (#6023896)
Eh, I think that is harsh on Denver. There aren't many teams that can survive losing their second best player. Especially ones that are not particularly loaded to begin with. People wrote them off as soon as Murray went down. I think Denver should be applauded for hanging on as long as they did, rather than criticised for eventually running into a wall.
   1171. Fourth True Outcome Posted: June 12, 2021 at 01:18 PM (#6023905)
I think Denver should be applauded for hanging on as long as they did, rather than criticised for eventually running into a wall.

This seems right to me. Without Murray it's the Jokic and friends show. Ayton defends him as well as anyone, so he's working hard for his 32/20/10. As good as Jokic is, that will only get you so far in the playoffs.
   1172. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: June 12, 2021 at 02:12 PM (#6023910)
Lang Whitaker @langwhitaker
It's just past noon and I'm already on my second t-shirt of the day. Welcome to Memphis in the summer.

   1173. spivey 2 Posted: June 12, 2021 at 09:01 PM (#6023952)
Kawhi guarding your best player is a really nice adjustment to make. I think waiting until you're down 2-0 might be too late eventually, though.
   1174. Tin Angel Posted: June 12, 2021 at 09:13 PM (#6023954)
If Kawhi is guarding Ingles who's guarding Mitchell?
   1175. spivey 2 Posted: June 12, 2021 at 09:28 PM (#6023955)
Reggie Jackson is going to earn himself a max contract from the Pistons with this shooting.
   1176. spivey 2 Posted: June 12, 2021 at 09:46 PM (#6023956)
Man, when the Clippers are playing their best, they are very good.
   1177. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: June 12, 2021 at 09:47 PM (#6023957)
If someone said the Clippers would be counting heavily on Nik Batum and Reggie Jackson, I would have said they were crazy.
   1178. spivey 2 Posted: June 12, 2021 at 10:20 PM (#6023964)
One thing I really like is that these late doubles and Kawhi guarding Mitchell have slowed down his scoring (though he's scored very well on other possessions), but I feel like he's been able to make pretty good passes to get a lot of guys open shots. Not too many of them have been made, but he's more than just a scorer these days. I don't know that he's better than Karl Malone, but he's pretty good.
   1179. tshipman Posted: June 12, 2021 at 10:28 PM (#6023965)
One thing that we haven't really talked about is that Ty Lue deserves credit for putting Nic Batum at center. I don't think there's more than a handful of coaches who would go to that.
   1180. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: June 13, 2021 at 07:07 AM (#6023971)
I had a dream last night that I was watching a series on 'The pivotal playoff series of NBA history'. Stuff like Bulls v. Pistons, etc. It was interesting in a general way, but I was struck by one segment. They were talking about the Olajuwon Rockets, and some talking head (ex-player or sportscaster, I can't remember) said that the Houston Arena in those days was known as "The Airlock", because other teams would come in and choke in the suffocating environment of both the fans and Houston's play.

Cool ideas I come up with in dreams rarely turn out to be all that under the harsh light of reality, but I think this is an exception. Houston fans definitely should start referring to the Toyota Center (dull name) as "The Airlock".
   1181. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: June 13, 2021 at 02:49 PM (#6023999)
Kristian Winfield @Krisplashed
A Bucks fan just had to answer this question for a prize.

Trivia host: "What does 'no cap' mean?"
Bucks Fan: "No capital letters!"

Marc Stein @TheSteinLine
The Nets have just activated Jeff Green for this afternoon's Game 4 in Milwaukee.
Tom Moore @TomMoorePhilly
#Sixers guard George Hill on the emergence of Tobias Harris:
'I would list him as one of my favorite teammates ever. ... He's a big leader for us and we're going to continue to lean on him.'

   1182. spivey 2 Posted: June 13, 2021 at 03:32 PM (#6024000)
I know you want Giannis involved in plays, but he really sucks as a screener, and it's preventing Middleton or Jrue from getting great options to attack the defense. I'd consider having BroLo set more of these screens. Jrue also is clearly afraid to shoot from 3 right now, and it's like... we traded a shitload of first round picks to get rid of Bledsoe for this very reason.
   1183. spivey 2 Posted: June 13, 2021 at 03:35 PM (#6024001)
PJ Tucker and Blake Griffin were clearly mailing it in pre-trade. Griffin in particular, I thought he was done. I've been very impressed with him this series.
   1184. asinwreck Posted: June 13, 2021 at 03:40 PM (#6024002)
Blake was clearly better the last couple of weeks of the regular season, but this series is the best he's looked in years. The Nets ramped him up slowly, and that's looking like a great decision.
   1185. asinwreck Posted: June 13, 2021 at 03:42 PM (#6024003)
Brook Lopez from deep. This is looking like a more fluid offensive game than the last one. (Granite is more fluid than the last game's offense.)
   1186. spivey 2 Posted: June 13, 2021 at 03:58 PM (#6024005)
PJ Tucker is an all-time great at getting over the screen.
   1187. spivey 2 Posted: June 13, 2021 at 04:06 PM (#6024006)
Bucks are running a functioning offense and I'm here for it.
   1188. asinwreck Posted: June 13, 2021 at 04:08 PM (#6024007)
Looks like Kyrie turned his ankle.
   1189. spivey 2 Posted: June 13, 2021 at 04:08 PM (#6024008)
Oh no, Kyrie turned that ankle pretty bad.
   1190. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: June 13, 2021 at 04:15 PM (#6024009)
I guess the Bucks have a chance if Harden and Irving are both out and they keep shooting 50% on 3s.
   1191. spivey 2 Posted: June 13, 2021 at 04:23 PM (#6024010)
I'm not saying Middleton is better than Giannis, but Middleton gets a lot of slander, but I feel like is the primary initiator in the half court, the crunch time scorer, and takes harder defensive assignments than Giannis. Milwaukee use him in a lot of ways more like a #1 than a #2, which is why I feel like he can occasionally look a bit exposed in that role.
   1192. spivey 2 Posted: June 13, 2021 at 04:26 PM (#6024012)
The Giannis top of the key off the bounce 3 has been either completely or almost completely removed today, and it's been great to see. It's sad to see about Kyrie, though. I mean, this team is an injury prone team, imo, but turning your ankle landing on someone else's foot is one of those things that can happen to anyone in the NBA.

Durant I know wants to punch PJ Tucker in the face.
   1193. Moeball Posted: June 13, 2021 at 04:36 PM (#6024013)
Well he tried to have his bodyguard take care of Tucker last game, so now Kevin's on his own.
   1194. asinwreck Posted: June 13, 2021 at 04:37 PM (#6024014)
Michael Grady
@Grady
Kyrie out the rest of the way due to right ankle sprain.
   1195. spivey 2 Posted: June 13, 2021 at 04:41 PM (#6024016)
Re: #1193

False. He just had Blake Griffin take him out. I feel like a lot of these screens have not only been illegal on Tucker, but more than a few of them have been dirty.
   1196. spivey 2 Posted: June 13, 2021 at 04:55 PM (#6024017)
Milwaukee have gotten a lot of open corner 3s in this game. Last game and this have been allowed to be extremely physical. Durant is getting reffed like he's Giannis, which I'm sure he's not used to.
   1197. PJ Martinez Posted: June 13, 2021 at 05:00 PM (#6024019)
The list of injury-affected All-Star players in these playoffs is just massive. LeBron, AD, Harden, Kyrie, Murray, Conley, Mitchell, CP3, Jaylen Brown. Plus basically every team down a key role player as well. Championship favorite seems to shift daily based on injury.
I hope someone does a close comparison of injury numbers in these playoffs and in previous years. Injuries are a factor every year, but it certainly *seems* like there have been more this year, which wouldn't be surprising under the circumstances.
   1198. spivey 2 Posted: June 13, 2021 at 05:05 PM (#6024020)
That foul call on Giannis was alltime level bad.
   1199. spivey 2 Posted: June 13, 2021 at 05:06 PM (#6024021)
Really hate this rotation of having both Tucker and Middleton out of the game (edit: because they're by far the best defenders on Durant, and Durant going supernova is basically the only way Brooklyn steals this).
   1200. tshipman Posted: June 13, 2021 at 05:13 PM (#6024022)
I hope someone does a close comparison of injury numbers in these playoffs and in previous years. Injuries are a factor every year, but it certainly *seems* like there have been more this year, which wouldn't be surprising under the circumstances.


Certainly in terms of impact, I can't remember a playoffs like this before.

Of the top 5 teams likely to win a championship, you have serious injuries up and down the rosters:

Nets: Kyrie, Harden
Lakers: Anthony Davis
Sixers: Danny Green, Joel Embiid
Clippers: Serge Ibaka
Utah: Mike Conley
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