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I estimate there are maybe 10-12 Primates left on this site, and they all post in the NBA thread.
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try to imagine this team, but with kelly "i broke kevin love's arm" olynyk and james "i'm a 6th degree black belt in brazilian jiu jitsu" johnson.
bonus fun fact:
i just noticed that i've been watching this game on a 30-minute delay.
Spoiler: Milwaukee will make more 3s.
austin rivers v. carmelo anthonyyeah, i'm not waiting for any of it.
Morris and Millsap were huge off the bench.
It's astounding that Jokic is about to be the MVP and 3-time all-NBA and the majority of announcers have not learned how to pronounce his name.
Luka Dončić
Goran Dragić
Bojan Bogdanović
Bogdan Bogdanović
Nikola Jokić
and bring Jusuf Nurkić and Boban Marjanović off the bench. With those bigs, I don't see Alen Smailagić getting a whole lot of run.
Giannis would like a word.
Yeah, Portland isn't going to shoot that well on such a high number of 3pa every game - even though they've done it both games so far. Still kinda getting blown out while shooting that well isn't a sign that Portland is likely to win any games they're not lights out from deep. If Portland shoots 50% or more from 3 the entire series, maybe they could win (they're at 47.9% so far).
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Last night's MIL should be really reassuring for anyone hoping/picking them to go far.
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Every year (save last year's bubble) I forgot how stupid the first round schedule is. If the league has no problem scheduling 2 games at the same time (like tonight, when both LA teams play at the same time), there's no reason there shouldn't be at least 3 games every dang night. Now that I like at the schedule, looks like yesterday and next Monday (which is a holiday, no less) are the only days with 2 scheduled (save when series end early). Still, it's a dumb schedule.
What the hell? What a dumb idea.
the overlap between this and the all-serbian team is basically 100%
(it includes some folks from elsewhere in the Balkans, but they're all serbian on their father's side)
serbs are good at the basketball
You're right, although most announcers punt on his last name and just say "Yah-nis."
Neither announcer last night could pronounce Nikola with Greg Anthony flip-flopping between "Nee-ko-la" and "Nee-ko-lie"
Nee-ko-lieeeee ..... Nee-ko-laaaaa ..... Nee-ko-lieeeee ..... Nee-ko-la ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
1: do you know who lauren holtkamp is?
2: if yes, can you name anyone else who was hired in that position within the last 10 years?
i thought i was ready for FULL ABERG; i was not ready for FULL BAERGA
Edit: Make it 18-0 run. Durant and Harden are feeding it to Harris and Jeff Green. They are toying with the Celtics.
Tim MacMahon
@espn_macmahon
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NBA announces that Kristaps Porzingis has been fined $50,00 for violating the rule prohibiting players from going to bars, clubs, lounges, etc. Sources said Porzingis, who has been vaccinated, briefly visited an LA strip club on Sunday.
also, durant has one hell of a sunroof.
and what the #### is on evan fournier's forehead. is he being hazed? does he moonlight as a benedictine monk in the offseason?
Randle
19.5 -> 24.1 PPG
3pt% went from .277 to .411
2pt% went from .515 to .474
9.7 -> 10.2 RPG
3.1 -> 6.0 APG
Net rating = -8.4
Grant
12.0 -> 22.3 PPG
3pt% from .389->.350
2pt% from .527 -> .473
2.7 -> 4.0 RPG
1.2 -> 2.8 RPB
Net rating = -3.2
Porter
9.3 -> 19.0 PPG
3 pt % from .422 -> .445
2 pt% from .564 -> .628
4.7 -> 7.3 RPG
0.8 -> 1.1 APG
Net rating = 7.9
i don't know where you're getting those numbers, because bk-ref has the following net ratings (and net on-off ratings):
randle: +2.6 (+0.2)
grant: -3.4 (+2.3)
porter: +8.2 (+7.4)
Thanks. They were from NBA.com (e.g., Randle)
The #s for Randle and Grant at BK-Ref make more sense, but the "one of these is not like the other" story is pretty much the same.
first offense: 50 game suspension
second offense: public execution
the announcers are yukking it up, though.
People said I played too soft in game one? I know what I'll do to prove them wrong. I'll deliver a well-placed nutshot at the opening whistle.
if that's as bad as it gets after 14 months of pent up hostility, we're all lucky.
i'll be half-surprised if we don't see college football people getting stabbed on the field 6 months from now.
PHI- 11,160 (55%)
PHX- 11,824 (65%)
NYK- 15,047 (76%)
UTA- 13,750 (75%)
MIL- 9,107 (53%)
LAC- 6,117 (32%)
BKN- 14,391 (81%)
DEN- 7,732 (40%)
I'm assuming all teams sold out their allotments. It will be interesting to see if the teams in the 70-80% range perform better at home than those in the 30-40% range. Anyone know why BKN was able to fill a larger % than NYK?
I get that Trae can be annoying, but he's just a 22-year old kid playing basketball.
James was big late, and Schroder had a really strong game. Not having to deal with a healthy Chris Paul was, no doubt, the biggest factor in the game.
I just don't understand why the Clippers are so bad on defense. I get that some of it is Luka, but some of it is just blown rotations and poor defensive communication.
I think George would go before Leonard, but I don't think the Clippers will make big changes, even if they lose to Dallas.
If the Lakers have trouble at home too, people will start talking about the # of fans in the building.
I suspect a large part of it is that they didn't play much basketball together, relatively speaking. Kawhi played 52 of 72, PG 54, Morris 57, Ibaka 41, Beverley 37, etc. (I'm absolutely not spending the time to figure out how many of those games overlapped.)
I missed almost all of both late games last night. Again, I can't imagine how that was a good decisions to play the two LA teams at once. Even granting the huge deferential treatment the NBA gives the West coast, knowing that Brooklyn/Celtics is likely to be a blowout, I don't know why one of the games didn't start at 6pm PDT/9pm EDT to be a bit of a bridge game.
But, in the first game, the Clippers had a pretty weird defensive gameplan on Doncic, where they were using Beverly a lot instead of their various large wing defenders. Then later in the game they were doubling a good amount, which isn't an awful idea, but the Mavericks have other guys who can score in 4on3 situations, especially when everyone is shooting well.
Curious how they defended him last night.
Also, related, Kennard has two DNP-CDs in this series so far.
I guess this is a long-winded way of saying that, if they lose this series, I can't imagine the Clippers firing Lue after only one year, and I can't imagine moving on from George or Kawhi (assuming Kawhi wants to stay!) given what it took to acquire them. But surely there will be front office changes.
They started off with Paul George and Morris on most possessions, but they switched every PnR. They actually had Kawhi on Porzingis, which was interesting. However, the Mavs just parked Porzingis in a corner and ran PnR with Kleber or whoever the small was.
Doncic was pretty ruthless in hunting out the mismatch, going after Beverly in particular, but also Zubac. This play was fun.
He's also lined up for a supermax, but given his age and injuries, I really don't think he's worth it. But maybe to someone absurdly wealthy like Ballmer, he is.
Ultimately though, Leonard and George have played ok, at least offensively. Between the 2 of them, they're averaging about 30/9/5 on good efficiency. The other stuff (the FO moves, the coaching, the play from 3-12) that isn't good enough right now. That said... it's a make or miss league. The Clippers are a much better 3pt shooting team (41% vs 36% in the regular season), yet are getting outshot badly from 3. If you look at the Four Factors on basketball-ref, the Clippers are leading in everything but eFG%. If the two teams were just shooting the same percentage from 3 over the course of the first 2 games (say, 38%), the Clippers would make up 40 points right there, and would likely be winning the series 2-0. (Note that this probably has slight effects on other things like OReb%, so it's probably not quite 40 points, but close enough).
My copyright lawyers will be in touch.
So I generally agree with this, but I will add that although the 3p shooting is kinda fluky and will probably normalize, these two games really have exposed some issues for the Clippers. The Mavs are tearing the Clippers up when they switch on Doncic. The Clippers are doing the switching thing, but they don't have anyone who makes a play on the back side of a switch.
The Mavs have hit 50% of their 3s, which is definitely fluky, but they've also hit 58% of their twos (The Clippers have actually been even better there, at 61%).
Down two games, the Clippers are in a bit of a spot for this round, but even more, it kind of exposes their switching defense for the rest of the playoffs as well. If Luka can do this to you, so can Jokic, so can LeBron, so can Harden.
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I keep getting thrown by all the ex-Bull scrubs playing meaningful playoff minutes - your Paynes, your Gaffords, your Jarbaris, your Snells, your Portisses Juniors and so forth. That's not even mentioning formerly useful players still getting run like your Roses, your Gibsons, and your Carmelos; but the fact that some of the scrubs actually don't suck anymore is very jarring (some still very much suck, which is keeping me sane).
that 2018 draft is a real throwback. 5 traditional big men taken in the top 7 (trae young and luka doncic being the remaining non-bigs), and then 3 taken in the entire rest of the first round.
then after the dregs of the NBA gorged themselves on big men, upwardly mobile teams wound up taking future all-stars/all-NBA players like SGA, bridges and porter in the back half of the lottery.
The Nets are playing a 7 seed that is also playing without their 2nd best player and didn't have a deep team to begin with.
I mean, I think the Nets would be my pick to win the title right now, but I don't think clowning the Celtics really means anything. Brooklyn are playing the worst or second worst team in the playoffs.
How do the Nets look against Joel Embiid, against Giannis, against the guys who will actually push them?
The Clips are not getting much from anyone other than Kawhi and PG13. Ibaka barely played in Game 2 and Luke Kennard didn't play at all.
I don't see the Sixers as having the profile of a team who will break Brooklyn's defense- they lack the elite perimeter penetration to take advantage of Kyrie/Harden. I mean they (obviously) don't have much to offer against Embiid, but most teams don't on an individual level.
Jrue/Middleton/Giannis will definitely be interesting in the second round.
it's way too early to think about this, so i'll just say the sixers offense vs. nets defense is less interesting than the nets offense vs. sixers defense. and i'd say the same about MIL and BRK.
both MIL and PHI have the defensive personnel to match up against BRK, but i don't know if it will even matter because there's a very real chance that BRK will still run over both of them.
PHI: kawhi leonard, paul george
LAC: tharris, ben simmons, matisse thybulle, [every PHI draft pick for the next decade]
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