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   1. Hombre Brotani Posted: August 16, 2021 at 01:27 PM (#6034591)
HOW WILL THE ANGELS LOSE TODAY, AND THEN TUESDAY, AND THEN WEDNESDAY, AND THEN THURSDAY?!

On-going mid-week chatters will never be late again.
   2. The Duke Posted: August 16, 2021 at 01:37 PM (#6034593)
Is there a way to easily look at pinch hitting success at baseball reference ?
   3. Traderdave Posted: August 16, 2021 at 03:30 PM (#6034611)
I have often wondered that about PH-ing as well
   4. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 16, 2021 at 03:36 PM (#6034613)
Statehead: Player batting - split - by defensive positions - as PH
   5. stanmvp48 Posted: August 16, 2021 at 04:21 PM (#6034622)
NL MVP? Has Tatis missed too many games? Who else?
   6. Walt Davis Posted: August 16, 2021 at 04:53 PM (#6034626)
Further to #4 ... uou can get a lot of it for free. You can get it for any individual player by clicking on their splits tab ... career or by year ... by position ... if you do career, you can click the row header and it will show you individual seasons. For leagues, there will be a batting tab and "league splits" will be one of the options there. Can only do that by year. If you want to compare players or leagues without using hours of your time, then you need stathead.

EDIT: and you can get it for teams similar to how you get it for leagues.
   7. Walt Davis Posted: August 16, 2021 at 05:03 PM (#6034627)
Yesterday the Cubs secured their second 11-game losing streak of the season. For Aug they are now 1-13 with a -56 run differential. What's the worst month in MLB history I wonder.

There are two bright spots -- Frank Schwindel has put up a 1172 OPS; Rafael Ortega remains red hot, hitting over 400 with power; Chirinos is an ageless wonder. Unfortunately Wisdom has been hitting like you'd think he probably would and Contreras was in a huge slump before hitting the IL. Even some minor bright spots on the pitching side as Mills, Heuer, Morgan and Wick have combined for 28 innings of good pitching. Alas the other 89 innings thrown in Aug have resulted in 100 runs.
   8. Rally Posted: August 16, 2021 at 05:06 PM (#6034630)
I think it has to be Tatis. He’s been so much better than anyone else. He’s back (and I mean back, 2 HR and 4 hits as soon as he was activated) so if he doesn’t miss too many more games he’s my #1.

For second place? I could see Muncy, Crawford, Harper in the mix. Maybe Posey, though he’s played fewer games than Tatis. I know he’s a catcher, but this is by design and he’s probably going to finish the season around 110. The MVP catchers have generally been over 140, though Hartnett won with 116 games one year. Maybe Wheeler gets the 2 spot and the Cy.
   9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 16, 2021 at 05:09 PM (#6034632)
Frank Schwindel is a "Bryan LaHair Future Cubs All-Star"
   10. Rally Posted: August 16, 2021 at 05:11 PM (#6034633)
I just looked up Schwindel and see he’s hitting great. A 29 year old 1B who had a single MLB hit to his credit coming into the season. If you had told me he was a guy who played for the 1906 team, I would have believed you. Sounds kind of like a name I might find on rosters of the previous century.
   11. The Duke Posted: August 16, 2021 at 05:18 PM (#6034634)
Reynolds is my vote for MVP. But I understand the Tatis love
   12. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 16, 2021 at 05:23 PM (#6034637)
The NL MVP is still to be won. Tatis is the current WAR Leader, so he hasn’t necessarily missed too much time, but another injury or a slump could change the picture.
   13. The Duke Posted: August 16, 2021 at 05:40 PM (#6034639)
What am I missing about Padres pitching - their stats indicate they are pretty good. Why Arrieta ?
   14. Walt Davis Posted: August 16, 2021 at 05:47 PM (#6034640)
#10: I marketed Schwindel just that way last week. :-)

#9: For sure, alas they play the same position. LaHair was the excuse to reset Rizzo's clock so let's hope Frank's successor is as successful.

NL MVP: Really it should be Wheeler but I don't think he (yet) has the sort of pitcher rep (and just 10-7) that translates to MVP honors. With such limited innings these days, it's interesting that 6 of the top 10 in NL WAR are pitchers. (AL has 3 near the bottom plus Ohtani who is about 55% hitting.)

And congrats to you if you drafted Wade Miley in a saber fantasy league.
   15. salvomania Posted: August 16, 2021 at 05:56 PM (#6034641)
Tatis is the current WAR Leader, so he hasn’t necessarily missed too much time, but another injury or a slump could change the picture.

Tatis has had three separate IL stints, and has missed more than 30 games, but is *still* leading the league in HR and SB, and is second in runs scored (in addition to leading in WAR, as mentioned above).

I think if you lead the league in everything while missing a quarter of the season, you're still the MVP.
   16. stanmvp48 Posted: August 16, 2021 at 07:25 PM (#6034649)
Votto and Winker have to be considered as well
   17. Jose Canusee Posted: August 16, 2021 at 07:38 PM (#6034651)
Having previously thought Trout and Pollock belonged on the Fish, we need some names to make the REAL Nationals with Ty France and Jonathan India on the right side of the infield. Chad Pinder whereever we need him, German Marquez and Zack Britton on the mound.
Going back historically and only stretching names like Aussie Smith at SS when there is no other choice, what else is there? Chili Davis and Irish Meusel in the of, Mark Portugal for more pitching, and Black Sock Swede Risberg... can't think of a catcher, which was also the downfall of the True Fish.
   18. TomH Posted: August 16, 2021 at 08:07 PM (#6034653)
Riddle me this, many Cards fans here (or others) -
St Louis is 7th in MLB in avg attendance. So why are their tickets on StubHub so comparatively inexpensive? I see tomorrow's game could be had for $6.
   19. Hombre Brotani Posted: August 16, 2021 at 08:18 PM (#6034655)
Gerrit Cole is gonna strike out 33 people tonight. Home plate ump is giving him the strike a full baseball off the black. Predictably, 8 Ks in 4 innings.
   20. What if I planted tomatoes Posted: August 16, 2021 at 08:45 PM (#6034660)
Both Winker and Castellanos are legit bad defensive players. And Winker is like really bad. See him way too much as a Brewer fan and dude rarely makes a serious effort. The Reds have just terrible outfield defense and Winker is the star of that show.

What about Crawford? Giants crushing it in a tough division, and he's their best player this season. That is a super simple MVP narrative.

As a Brewer Adames has a line of .297/.378/.551 Good defender. And the Crew has played fantastic since he showed up. Won't get many back of the ballot votes but he's a better choice than many of the non-pitchers.
   21. Walt Davis Posted: August 16, 2021 at 08:51 PM (#6034662)
#18: Given early season attendance restrictions and general covid anxiety, I assume pretty much every team has a lot of gameday tix available. Could well be 25-50% of any game's attendance is same-day sales. Cards are 6th (b-r) in attendance but sit at "just" 1.3 million (impresses me under the circumstances) ... but they averaged around 3.4 M per year prior to the pandemic so that's still 50% or less of the usual demand. Hard to scalp games under those circumstances.

So just look at those numbers. Incredibly, the Cards have been averaging about 45,000 per game ... now it's half that and probably a good chunk of that is day of game. They are doing pretty well since they opened up tix -- over 30,000, sometimes 40,000 except the occasional mid-week against a bad team -- but still plenty of seats available at the box office.
   22. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 16, 2021 at 08:54 PM (#6034663)
Gerrit Cole is gonna strike out 33 people tonight.
Only 9 in 5.2 innings. Pretty good for a 1st start after Covid. Britton gets the 3rd out; might be too much to ask hm for more, although someone has to pitch. Maybe all make-up games should be 7 innings?
   23. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: August 16, 2021 at 09:01 PM (#6034668)
Winker is on the DL now. Plus,Great American now plays as a better hitters park than Coors. I think NL MVP has to be Tatis.
   24. What if I planted tomatoes Posted: August 16, 2021 at 09:10 PM (#6034670)
23 makes a really good point about that ballpark.
   25. What if I planted tomatoes Posted: August 16, 2021 at 09:35 PM (#6034672)
Votto with his 2000th hit. Reds hammering Cubs
   26. The Duke Posted: August 16, 2021 at 09:36 PM (#6034673)
Cardinals games look to have pretty empty stands. I think there is a big difference between “paid” and “actual” attendance which could explain the very cheap stub hub prices if the no-shows are trying to ditch unwanted tix. Cardinals fans are quite worried that Dewitt will drop more salary in the offseason as attendance looks quite weak. They have $60+ million coming off books with Fowler, Carpenter, Andrew Miller, Carlos Martinez all falling away. Molina and wainwright also come off but are expected to return. And we have to start paying Arenado next year which eats up a big chunk of the $60 million savings.
   27. cardsfanboy Posted: August 16, 2021 at 09:41 PM (#6034674)
Cardinal writer wrote an article that Arenado might be a silent person in the mvp race.
   28. cardsfanboy Posted: August 16, 2021 at 09:44 PM (#6034675)
Cardinals games look to have pretty empty stands.


I've been to one game and it easily had the 40,000 they claimed to have, but of course that was Ted Simmons day, so it might have clouded the normal day, but on tv the stadium looks pretty full, especially in comparison to other stadiums I've seen, nobody is really at full capacity, but the Cardinals are having good size crowds in comparison.
   29. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 16, 2021 at 09:44 PM (#6034676)
Cubs have let up another 10+ runs in a game en route to another loss.

After tonight, they need to go 10-32 to avoid tying their 2012 loss record.
   30. Walt Davis Posted: August 17, 2021 at 03:04 AM (#6034690)
Jed really shoulda stocked up a better AAA team before undertaking this plan. The Cubs of the moment may well be the worst MLB team I have ever seen. They are giving up 8 runs a game in August. They have a larger run differential than their RS. Their pythag for Aug is 180 and they are 1.7 games under their pythag.
   31. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: August 17, 2021 at 11:53 AM (#6034725)
The Cubs are really terrible. I thought the Pirates were terrible, but, this Cubs team...


Winker is on the DL now. Plus,Great American now plays as a better hitters park than Coors. I think NL MVP has to be Tatis.


This said, if Votto spends the rest of the 2nd half hitting like he has so far (.339/.435/.798 since the break) and leads the Reds past the Padres and in to the wildcard game (overcoming the horribleness of the Reds bullpen), this Reds fan wouldn't mind seeing him win his 2nd MVP, WAR be damned...
   32. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: August 17, 2021 at 12:09 PM (#6034727)
Reds have only 14 games left with teams over .500 (6 Cards, 3 Brewers, 3 Dodgers, 2 White Sox) and a bunch left against the Cubs, Pirates, and Nationals.
Cards have 13 games left against the Brewers. That should be fun. Six against the Reds. Plus, 14 left against Pirates and Cubs.

Padres have 2 left against Colorado, 3 against D-backs, 4 against the Angels, and the rest is a steady diet of Astros, Dodgers, Giants, with some Cards, Phillies and Braves thrown in.
   33. The Duke Posted: August 17, 2021 at 01:53 PM (#6034746)
If the cardinals do damage against the brewers, the reds could have a chance at the division. I think the cards only chance is the second wild card which looked largely impossible a week ago but now I can see a path. Imperceptible almost, but it’s there
   34. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 17, 2021 at 03:11 PM (#6034762)
Yanks parlay 3 walks, a seeing eye blooper and a laser shot by Stanton into a 5-3 lead with the bottom of the 5th still in progress. If they can hang on, they'll be even with the Red Sox in the loss column.
   35. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 17, 2021 at 04:10 PM (#6034768)
Talk about clutch: Ahead 5-3, Loaisiga loads the bases with no outs in the top of the 7th, then goes 3-2 on Shaw before getting him to fly to short left, then goes 3-0 on Hernandez and strikes him out, and then strikes out Renfro to end it. Just another nailbiter that the Yankees somehow survived. The Yanks' bullpen hasn't had a 1-2-3 final inning in its last 11 tries, and yet they've still managed to go 6 and 3 in that same stretch of games.
   36. What if I planted tomatoes Posted: August 17, 2021 at 07:13 PM (#6034803)
   37. cardsfanboy Posted: August 17, 2021 at 08:00 PM (#6034806)
Waino is not going to going to get a cg today, but managed to make it out of the first without a run.
   38. cardsfanboy Posted: August 17, 2021 at 08:24 PM (#6034808)
Can't say the same about the second inning though... 1-0 Brewers.
   39. cardsfanboy Posted: August 17, 2021 at 08:39 PM (#6034809)
nor third inning 2-0 Brewers
   40. salvomania Posted: August 17, 2021 at 08:42 PM (#6034811)
Yikes, Chris Bassitt drilled in the temple/side of the head by a line drive. Does not look good. He's alive, but he's leaving some blood behind...
   41. salvomania Posted: August 17, 2021 at 08:51 PM (#6034812)
To add insult to (literal) injury, the reliever allowed all three of Bassitt's inherited runners to score.
   42. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: August 17, 2021 at 09:34 PM (#6034815)
According to Twitter the A’s have said he’s “conscious and aware” while he’s en route to the hospital.
   43. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: August 17, 2021 at 09:39 PM (#6034817)
Sox about to drop the double header in NY :-(. Well it was fun while it lasted......
   44. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 17, 2021 at 09:51 PM (#6034822)
Not only have the Yankees passed the Red Sox with today’s doubleheader sweep, albeit by just .001, but they could be tied for the 1st Wildcard with the Athletics, who are trailing the White Sox 8-0:in the 5th. The remainder of the season might be interesting.
   45. Brian C Posted: August 17, 2021 at 10:00 PM (#6034826)
Hey look, the Cubs won a game.
   46. Howie Menckel Posted: August 17, 2021 at 10:58 PM (#6034834)
Sweeny Murti
@YankeesWFAN
·
43m
The Yankees gained 9 games on Boston in 23 days. Since July 25, Boston went 8-14, Yankees went 17-5. Yankees and Red Sox are even now, both 5 games behind Tampa Bay.
   47. sanny manguillen Posted: August 17, 2021 at 11:03 PM (#6034835)
can't think of a catcher, which was also the downfall of the True Fish.


Darrell Porter Rico? Lombardi would work for most of history, and may again in ten years.
   48. The Duke Posted: August 17, 2021 at 11:07 PM (#6034837)
First game of a home stand, coming off 6-0 road trip, wainwright on the mound, and arguably the cardinals most important series of the year against division leading Milwaukee.

Attendance: 28K

   49. Howie Menckel Posted: August 17, 2021 at 11:46 PM (#6034840)
Bryan Hoch
@BryanHoch
·
41m
Luke Voit: “I was top 10 in the MVP [voting] last year and I’ve been a great player for this organization for the last three years. I’m not going down. I want to play. Obviously I know it’s going to be tougher with Rizzo, but I deserve to play just as much as he does."
   50. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 17, 2021 at 11:59 PM (#6034842)
Rockies knock off the Padres 7-3 behind German Marquez, who chips in a single, a double and two RBIs to the cause. The Pads are barely hanging on to the second wild card, despite Tatis, Machado, Darvish, Snell, Cronenworth, etc. How is this team 11 games behind the Giants?
   51. Hombre Brotani Posted: August 18, 2021 at 01:23 AM (#6034844)
   52. Walt Davis Posted: August 18, 2021 at 02:57 AM (#6034846)
Attendance today (still my today): all numbers in sloppily rounded 1000s. The Brewers-Cards were the 4th-biggest crowd of the day. It's the pandemic.

53 Pitt-LAD
39 Sox-Yanks (DH)
28 Brew-Cards
28 Padres-Rox (how?)
25 Angels-Tigers (that's impressive, are tix like $2?)
24 Mets-Giants
21 As-CWS
20 Jays-Nats
20 Cle-Twins
15 Ms-Rangers
14 Cubs-Reds
10 Astros-Royals
8 Phils-DBacks
6 Atl-Marlins
5 Os-Rays (not a typo)

   53. Walt Davis Posted: August 18, 2021 at 03:19 AM (#6034847)
This year the Cards are 7th in att/game. They are ahead of the Yanks, behind LAD, Atl, Tex (new stadium), Hou, SD, Cubs. A teensy smidgen ahead of the Rox. I don't know if those places all opened up at the same time or not.

They are usually 2nd or 3rd so unless this is timing-related or restriction-related, it is a relative drop-off. Tonight appears to be the 24th game since the Cards fully opened ... possibly the 27th as that was a mid-week series against the Marlins so 24,000 could be fully open. I checked the Rox and they look similar but they are usually close to the Cards anyway. The Dodgers look the same but are usually ahead anyway. All of them opened around mid-June.

But who are some ... well, not exactly surprised but usually behind the Cards teams? How about Hou, Tex and Atl? Anything they might have in common? Texas, the state, let them crank it up on May 21 when the Astros visited the Rangers, drawing about 35 a night. The Astros didn't draw all that well (about 30) but big draws against Yanks and weekends against Tex and CWS. The Rangers have run consistently 20-30 depending on weekend or mid-week. Atlanta got to open up on May 7. They had some big weekends and have since settled around the high 30s or so.

So the Braves are #1 in total attendance, #2 in per game ... because they opened it up early. They had about 19 more open games than the Cards. That's not enough to explain all of their edge over the Cards but it explains at least half of it.

If you really want to compare teams this year, you've got to start around mid-June when it seems like all/most were open.

   54. stanmvp48 Posted: August 18, 2021 at 07:39 AM (#6034849)
>The Pads are barely hanging on to the second wild card, despite Tatis, Machado, Darvish, Snell, Cronenworth, etc. How is this team 11 games behind the Giants?<

Well if they had a first baseman who was worth half of what they were paying Hosmer---. Also several wins behind projection
   55. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: August 18, 2021 at 12:30 PM (#6034876)
David Bell strategery: "Let's take the guy who is hitting .298/.400/.673 in the cleanup spot, and .333/.434/.613 with RISP, and move him back to the 2nd spot, where he has mostly sucked the last two years, and won't get any rbi opportunities. I am a genius!" [/DavidBelldidntreallysaythis}
   56. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 18, 2021 at 02:27 PM (#6034900)
Rockies-Padres this afternoon have the rare face-off between two starting pitchers with ERAs over 6. Chi Chi Gonzalez is starting for the Rox because Austin Gomber went on the paternity list a couple of days ago, and Jake Arrieta is starting for the Friars, because, well, who knows?
   57. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: August 18, 2021 at 03:14 PM (#6034908)
going to end up being 1-0 game Tom.

The Reds suck. No offense with Votto in the 2 spot. In the 15 games in August before moving Votto to the #2 spot, the Reds scored 100 runs. In the 2 games he has been in the 2 spot, they have scored 2 (against the CUBS!). Coincidence? I think not! Granted, with Winker out, they only have 3 decent hitters, so, not sure how many runs I am hoping they score a game... But, it's more than 1!
   58. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 18, 2021 at 04:08 PM (#6034938)
going to end up being 1-0 game Tom.


Nah, it's 3-3 already, midway through the third. Living up to expectations.
   59. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 18, 2021 at 04:26 PM (#6034944)
Make that 4-4 in the fourth. Arrieta, despite having allowed four runs in three innings to lift his ERA for the year over 7, gets to bat for himself in the top of the fourth.
   60. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 18, 2021 at 04:35 PM (#6034946)
Since the trade deadline, the Nationals’s Juan Soto has 17 BB in 14 games, a pace that would put him ahead of Ted Williams - reputed to have had a pretty good eye - on the Age-22 Career BB Leaderboard by season’s end. Might even catch Mel Ott for 1st place, even though Ott had ~ 600 more PAs.

In today’s news, Soto’s 1st-inning 3-run HR to LF gives the Nationals the lead over Toronto, and puts him within a couple of HRs of making an appearance on the Age-22 Career HR Leaderboard.
   61. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 18, 2021 at 05:04 PM (#6034952)
Not surprisingly, Soto walks in his next PA. He’ll need 32 more BB to catch Williams, and 44 to match Ott, on that previously-linked Age-22 Career Leaderboard, with 42 games remaining on the Nationals schedule after today.
   62. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 18, 2021 at 05:07 PM (#6034953)
Arrieta's done, having allowed five runs in three and a third, although he supposedly left on account of "hamstring tightness." One wonders if the Padres have already seen enough.
   63. sunday silence (again) Posted: August 18, 2021 at 05:23 PM (#6034963)
I dunno if Tom is being facetious, and someone asked in another thread about Why Arrieta? BUt SD's front line pitching has been decimated. With 2 of their main starters out and another spot starter guy also so I guess that's the reason. Perhaps you all knew that.
   64. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 18, 2021 at 05:53 PM (#6034976)
Another BB for Soto in the 5th.
   65. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 18, 2021 at 06:17 PM (#6034982)
Nationals starter Josiah Gray, acquired in the Scherzer/Turner deal, leaves leading 4-2 after 6. In 22 innings as a National, he’s given up 8 runs, all on solo HRs.
   66. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 18, 2021 at 06:35 PM (#6034988)
Rockies finish off the sweep of the Padres, 7-5. In the race for the second wild card, the Friars are just a game and a half ahead of the Reds, who get a four-game home series against the lowly Marlins this weekend.
   67. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 18, 2021 at 06:37 PM (#6034990)
Soto handed his 3rd BB of the game in 7th.

EDIT: Josh Bell follows with 3-run HR (#20) to put the Nationals back in the lead, 7-5.
   68. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: August 18, 2021 at 07:11 PM (#6034996)
ESPN did not cut to the Sox-Yanks game at its scheduled time. The LL Softball WS game is allowed to finish.

It's the championship game, and it just now got done.
   69. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 18, 2021 at 07:23 PM (#6034999)
Great, it took Homer Heaney all of 3 Red Sox batters to serve up his first specialty of the night.
   70. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 18, 2021 at 07:30 PM (#6035002)
Kyle Finnegan pitches a scoreless 9th for the Nationals to get the Save, leaving the Blue Jays in his wake.
   71. cardsfanboy Posted: August 18, 2021 at 07:53 PM (#6035005)
forget it.
   72. cardsfanboy Posted: August 18, 2021 at 07:57 PM (#6035007)
It is funny (and something I've argued for years) that Yadier is having his bat starting to show up, when he's not playing 5 out of 6 games... Give him a day off twice a week, his bat will show up. He's not an elite hitter or anything but you can expect a .710 ops or better from him when you rest him. Not the .530 or so we got out of him by playing him 33 out of 35 games in June and July.
   73. cardsfanboy Posted: August 18, 2021 at 08:01 PM (#6035010)
1-0 in the first for the Cardinals even after a horrible call by the first base ump to ring up Arenado.
   74. cardsfanboy Posted: August 18, 2021 at 08:04 PM (#6035012)
2-0, that was enough for the Brewers last night, not sure that is going to be the case for tonight.
   75. cardsfanboy Posted: August 18, 2021 at 08:23 PM (#6035015)
Back to back two out doubles for the Cardinals make the game 3-0. With Flaherty pitching it gives the team confidence, with Shildt managing it gives the fans worries still.
   76. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: August 18, 2021 at 08:27 PM (#6035016)
Great, it took Homer Heaney all of 3 Red Sox batters to serve up his first specialty of the night.


But the Red Sox counter with their starter giving up the usual 4 runs inside of 3 innings. Now early in the season this was not a total disaster as the pen would come in, maybe surrender 1 more run the rest of the way and give the team a chance to come back. Now of course, the pen is gassed and the Sox will drop another game today by something like 8-4
   77. cardsfanboy Posted: August 18, 2021 at 08:36 PM (#6035017)
Brewers replace their pitcher after he warmed up... Not good
.
   78. Hombre Brotani Posted: August 18, 2021 at 09:14 PM (#6035022)
Shohei Ohtani just hit #40, 430 feet worth of homer, after throwing seven innings of 7-Ks, 1-run ball.

This really is the most incredible season, maybe ever.
   79. cardsfanboy Posted: August 18, 2021 at 09:23 PM (#6035026)
3-2 after two solo homeruns...

I haven't seen it yet, but Pham supposedly hit the longest homerun of the year yesterday.
   80. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: August 18, 2021 at 09:27 PM (#6035027)
This really is the most incredible season, maybe ever.


Agree.

Who was the kook the other day who suggested that Vlad Jr should be the MVP?

   81. cardsfanboy Posted: August 18, 2021 at 09:33 PM (#6035028)
Freeman with the cycle... I love the cycle.
   82. cardsfanboy Posted: August 18, 2021 at 09:34 PM (#6035029)
Shohei Ohtani just hit #40, 430 feet worth of homer, after throwing seven innings of 7-Ks, 1-run ball.

This really is the most incredible season, maybe ever.


yea, I don't see how there is anyone else in the conversation for AL MVP, it's not particularly close to be honest. Heck War is probably unfairly penalizing him for being a "DH".
   83. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: August 18, 2021 at 09:41 PM (#6035030)
. I love the cycle.


Yeah, me too. Its just fun and I'm really hoping Trea Turner sets the all time cycle record. I was kind of hoping he'd break that on the same day Mookie breaks the 3 homer game record. It would be epic.
   84. Hombre Brotani Posted: August 18, 2021 at 09:42 PM (#6035032)
Ohtani is done after 8 IP. In innings 6 through 8, his fastball sat at 98.

That gives him 100 innings even for the season, with 120 Ks, 39 walks, and a 2.79 ERA. Since his disastrous New York start, he's gone 40 innings, with 37 Ks, just 4 walks, and a 1.58 ERA. He's been arguably the best starter in the American League the last two months. For all the attention his homers get, he's basically turned into Greg Maddux!

I'm almost giddy watching him. His performance is beyond superlatives at this point.
   85. Howie Menckel Posted: August 18, 2021 at 09:50 PM (#6035033)
Who was the kook the other day who suggested that Vlad Jr should be the MVP?

Harold Reynolds on MLB Network

and as I noted the other day, he doubled down.

it's one thing to be dumb enough to say anything short of Ohtani deserving to be a unanimous MVP (which he obviously should be).

no, Harold claimed that if the Blue Jays reach the playoffs, that Vlad Jr. would be VOTED MVP by the writers.

pretty astonishing, even for him.
   86. cardsfanboy Posted: August 18, 2021 at 09:54 PM (#6035036)
I get making the argument that there are other worthy candidates of consideration... that has been a media staple in all sports for years even when it's clear who is going to win, but it's ridiculous to make the argument "if this happens, he'll win it." in this type of situation. Ohtani has already won it, the debate is already over.

   87. The Honorable Ardo Posted: August 18, 2021 at 10:01 PM (#6035040)
I've closely followed Tigers baseball for 30 years. Tonight was the most impressive performance by a visiting player in Detroit that I've ever seen.

My verbatim comment at the bar: "He's been stuck on 39 home runs for a bit... Oh, no----- That's up in earth orbit... Holy cannoli."

I can't wait to see what Ohtani's WPA is for the game.
   88. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 18, 2021 at 10:11 PM (#6035044)
Harold claimed that if the Blue Jays reach the playoffs, that Vlad Jr. would be VOTED MVP by the writers
There have been years when MVP voters (and other writers) discounted a players performance if his team finished out the playoff race, claiming that made it ‘less valuable’. That practice was inconsistently applied, at best, and may now be mostly abandoned. In any event, Ohtani should have a sufficient cushion that a few idiosyncratic voters wouldn’t matter.
   89. The Honorable Ardo Posted: August 18, 2021 at 10:19 PM (#6035048)
The only question surrounding Ohtani is whether he can sustain his two-way production through 2023. If so, he'll supersede Messi and Mahomes for the richest contract in sports history.
   90. cardsfanboy Posted: August 18, 2021 at 10:25 PM (#6035049)
Do NFL contracts really count in these type of discussions? From what I can tell it was only 141 mil guarantee.
   91. Howie Menckel Posted: August 18, 2021 at 10:32 PM (#6035050)
imagine what the Rays could draw at home if they were GOOD !

Marc Topkin
@TBTimes_Rays
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10:03 PM · Aug 18, 2021
   92. Hombre Brotani Posted: August 18, 2021 at 10:40 PM (#6035055)
I can't imagine any baseball contract getting to La Ligua Messi-level per-season levels. If the Angels were to give Ohtani something like that, the Angels would be paying over $100 million for just two guys.

If Ohtani has anything close to this season next year and stays healthy, he can name his price. 10 years, $500 million?
   93. cardsfanboy Posted: August 18, 2021 at 11:01 PM (#6035056)
dangit, Brewers tie the game.
   94. phredbird Posted: August 18, 2021 at 11:07 PM (#6035057)

ugh, we just got an early christmas gift from the ump on the punchout in the ninth with a one run lead ... then he tosses the batter and counsell for arguing ... nobody happy with blue tonight, arenado got rung up twice on bad check swing calls, and HE got ejected for arguing.

then reyes gives up that home run ...

jints had a one run lead in the 9th earlier today, and gacked up the lead to the mets, and lost in extras. don't be like the giants, guys.
   95. phredbird Posted: August 18, 2021 at 11:27 PM (#6035060)

... and we have a meltdown.

rats.
   96. The Duke Posted: August 18, 2021 at 11:38 PM (#6035061)
Cards up 3-0 and piss it away with poor managing, Arenado inexplicably getting himself tossed, their pitchers unable to keep the ball in the park, and Molina too old to catch anymore

The brewers are just a much better team - the Dodgers and giants will have their hands full with them
   97. cardsfanboy Posted: August 18, 2021 at 11:41 PM (#6035062)
Yadier with a base hit to score O'neil in the 10th, Cardinals losing 6-4.... and I bet that they don't pinch run for Yadier... which is just idiotic at this point in time.
   98. The Duke Posted: August 19, 2021 at 12:02 AM (#6035066)
https://streamable.com/bj8zso

This Is a funny piece from the Brewers announcers
   99. The Honorable Ardo Posted: August 19, 2021 at 01:04 AM (#6035076)
The Cardinals should hire a manager not named Mike. They're 0-for-2 of late.
   100. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: August 19, 2021 at 08:25 AM (#6035089)
ESPN did not cut to the Sox-Yanks game at its scheduled time. The LL Softball WS game is allowed to finish.

It's the championship game, and it just now got done.


That’s a shame. ESPN never shows the Red Sox - Yankees.
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