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Friday, January 13, 2012

Neyer: Did Joe Torre Cost Jorge Posada His Shot At Cooperstown?

Joe Torre - history’s greatest monster.

Anyway, you can read all about that. In the wake of the reports, I got this e-mail message:

I am looking over the 3 part time years that Jorge split with Girardi. Joe must have been drunk. This friggin’ loyalty may have cost Posada the HOF.

1997 - Posada 188 AB, 101 OPS+
1997 - Girardi 398 AB, 69 OPS+


1998 - Posada 358 AB, 115 OPS+
1998 - Girardi 254 AB, 85 OPS+


1999 - Posada 379 AB, 91 OPS+
1999 - Girardi 209 AB, 60 OPS+


Man, I did not know Girardi was his bad. But Torre gave Girardi 600 ABs for 2 years, when he could not crack the 70 OPS+ line. I think was never noticed or talked about because those Yankee teams won so much.

He got a total of nearly 850 AB during this 3 years span. That is a damn near
travesty.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 13, 2012 at 07:22 AM | 3 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 13, 2012 at 09:50 AM (#4035995)
Whoa, I submitted this like a week ago, back when we had the other thread on it. So, sorry, don't know why its showing up today.
   2. Javy Joan Baez (chris h.) Posted: January 13, 2012 at 10:15 AM (#4036024)
Yeah I thought I had remembered a thread on this before...
   3. salvomania Posted: January 13, 2012 at 10:36 AM (#4036052)
Chances are with the extra mileage on him if he had played a lot more those first few years he may not have still been the type of hitter he was at age 37 in 2009, and the Yankees might have one fewer World Championship.

So Torre was being extra, clairvoyantly loyal to Girardi by bequeathing him a lower-mileage Posada with which to capture his own title as a manager.

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