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Wednesday, September 16, 2020

NL on pace to outscore AL for first time in nearly 50 years

DH production across the two leagues is very similar. AL DHs are hitting .231/.318/.413 this year while NL DHs are hitting .234/.315/.411. Considering NL teams did not have an offseason to tailor their roster for the universal DH—it was dropped on them during the shutdown—that’s impressive. NL pitchers hit .131/.161/.168 last season, remember. Now those at-bats go to real hitters.

The universal DH certainly contributes to the NL outscoring the AL this year but it alone does not explain it. NL teams are receiving significantly better production than AL teams at four of the nine positions:...

Weighted runs created plus, or wRC+, is a catch-all statistic that adjusts for era and ballpark, and presents offensive output relative to the league average, where 100 is average. Anything higher than 100 is above-average (a 125 wRC+ is 25 percent better than league average, for example) and anything below 100 is below-average.

At the four positions the NL leads, the average gap is 9 wRC+ points. At the four positions the AL leads, the average gap is only 7 wRC+ points. The NL has a bigger offensive edge at several individual positions, they’re hitting (slightly) more home runs, and they’re performing better with men in scoring position. That equals more runs scored per game, on average.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 16, 2020 at 05:38 PM | 10 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Athletic Supporter is USDA certified lean Posted: September 16, 2020 at 06:27 PM (#5977069)
Is this the stupidest headline ever?
   2. cardsfanboy Posted: September 16, 2020 at 11:51 PM (#5977124)
Is this the stupidest headline ever?


It could tie with the stupidest headline ever, but I can't argue it's better than Dewey beats Truman. (and with the rise of Faux news and clickbait, I doubt it's even in the competition for stupidest this week.... I mean just go to Foxnews and I'm sure you'll find dumber, and that is before the even more pseudo news sites......)
   3. Doug Jones threw harder than me Posted: September 17, 2020 at 10:22 AM (#5977151)
To me, it's not the stupidest headline ever, because a) It reminds one that, with the DH in the National League this year, something that was highly unlikely is now quite possible and b) It's actually like to happen. So that's a useful piece of info to me, even though after thinking about it one realizes that "of course this is possible now".
   4. Jose Needs an Absurd Ukulele Concert Posted: September 17, 2020 at 10:56 AM (#5977167)
Yeah, I'd say it's not a stupid headline but a stupid article.
   5. Rally Posted: September 17, 2020 at 11:46 AM (#5977187)
Looking at league splits, pitchers are 0-6 this year in the NL. But none of those guys are actual pitchers, just position players taking the mound at the end of blowouts and getting an AB. Best DHs in the league are Mets and Braves. Braves have Ozuna, who if not for the rule change would have been a full time OF. Mets are getting good production from a rotating group. I thought it was Dominic Smith but he has more PA both in left and 1B than he does at DH.

Smith playing in the field puts Alonso or Davis at DH, I think the rule change gave Smith the opportunity to have a regular lineup spot, even if that is not the spot he regularly fills.

Pirates DH "production" is a good argument for just letting the pitchers hit.
   6. Karl from NY Posted: September 17, 2020 at 04:12 PM (#5977296)
Yeah, there's useful info in the headline. I would have believed it if the NL had happened to randomly outscore the AL sometime during say the McGwire/Sosa/Bonds sillyball years, plus with interleague play narrowing the differential where each league sometimes plays by the other's rules.

That said, the framing of "in nearly 50 years" is obviously deliberately misleading. "Since the DH" is the real story and obviously dull.
   7. Howie Menckel Posted: September 17, 2020 at 05:21 PM (#5977315)
reminds me of "best DH in baseball history" or "best closer in baseball history" - neither are truly similar to "best 1B in baseball history" etc.
   8. Walt Davis Posted: September 17, 2020 at 06:27 PM (#5977331)
Given the last-second nature of it, I'd have thought that the main impact would have been better defense for NL teams (not that that would be easy to measure) -- y'know, we can put Schwarber at DH and a better defender in LF leading to a smaller improvement in offense. Instead NL teams have followed the rotation tradition and Ozuna, Winker, Kemp look like the only guys over 100 PA as DH and most teams have had many, many players take a turn (Dodgers about 15 of them).

Looking at league splits, pitchers are 0-6 this year in the NL. But none of those guys are actual pitchers

Au contraire. Alec Mills is 0-1. He PH (so not "as P") for Kimbrel after some fine managering by Ross managed to lose the DH which he has done a few times this year.
   9. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: September 17, 2020 at 07:07 PM (#5977337)
Too bad they had to give up playing baseball to do it.
   10. Jose Needs an Absurd Ukulele Concert Posted: September 18, 2020 at 10:23 AM (#5977444)
Alec Mills is 0-1.


Alec Mills seems to be fanatical about the no hits thing.

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