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Notre Dame tops Tennessee in stunning upset as top overall seed fails to reach College World Series

Once again, the top overall seed has failed to win the College World Series. This time around, perhaps one of the greatest college baseball teams in history to not win it all didn’t even make it to Omaha. Thanks in part to three runs in each the seventh and eighth innings, Notre Dame has stunned Tennessee 7-3 and eliminated them. Notre Dame punches its ticket to the College World Series at Omaha after taking two of three from the Volunteers at the Knoxville Super Regional.

The Super Regionals are best-of-three series, so the Notre Dame victory on Friday put Tennessee’s backs against the wall. The Vols responded with a 12-4 win Saturday and then had a 3-1 lead Sunday through six innings.

Notre Dame would tie it up with a two-run shot by David LaManna. Jack Brannigan followed with a solo home run to give the Fighting Irish the lead for good. Notre Dame tacked on three insurance runs in the eighth with a two-RBI double from Carter Putz being the big blow.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 12, 2022 at 10:18 PM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: June 12, 2022 at 10:42 PM (#6081445)
As I said in the other thread:
Seeing on Twitter the Vols - both team and fans - are utter jerks. If so, then, go Irish.

   2. Meatwad Posted: June 12, 2022 at 11:02 PM (#6081449)
Very happy to see ND advance, its an upset for sure but ND was ranked all season so its not as big of an upset as some may think
   3. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: June 12, 2022 at 11:47 PM (#6081451)
Seeing on Twitter the Vols - both team and fans - are utter jerks. If so, then, go Irish.


Now I haven't lived in the USA since the 80's but from what I recall, Notre Dame fans weren't exactly the most gracious either.
Have they become better?
   4. Jose is Absurdly Correct but not Helpful Posted: June 13, 2022 at 08:35 AM (#6081467)
Not really but the current Tennessee team is a special kind of assholery. One of the "highlights" is Jordan Beck homering then giving the finger to the outfield as he rounded the bases and by most accounts their general attitude is pretty dickish. I'll admit I haven't seen a lot of them but what I have seen made me pretty happy to see them go out. College baseball tends to be a bit over the top on celebrations and stuff but even by those standards it seems Tennessee is just a step beyond.
   5. winnipegwhip Posted: June 13, 2022 at 02:34 PM (#6081508)
When the pitching coach blows by the head coach to complain about a Vol batter getting ejected by the plate ump (resulting in the coach's second ejection this year) I think the tone at the top does nothing to curb this assholery.
   6. bfan Posted: June 13, 2022 at 06:40 PM (#6081551)
I follow college baseball lightly enough such that maybe the top 5% of the stories from the game bubble up to my attention, and even I knew and had heard that Tennessee was really making a name for itself for obnoxious behavior.
   7. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: June 13, 2022 at 08:04 PM (#6081571)
One of the "highlights" is Jordan Beck homering then giving the finger to the outfield as he rounded the bases


Behaviour like that should be punished by the uni itself. He's representing his college and if I were on faculty, that would've drawn a suspension of some length, that's appalling.
   8. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: June 13, 2022 at 08:19 PM (#6081576)
Back in the 90s, I knew of a Pac-10 pitcher who had gone out of his way to taunt batters while en route to a multi-inning save.

His coach first lit him up in the postgame presser, then levied a punishment of having to run around the university's sports complex (about a mile, I'm guessing) 10 times a day for four days. The pitcher kept his mouth shut after that.

ADDENDUM: The pitcher's son now plays for the same school - and he's named after that coach.
   9. bfan Posted: June 14, 2022 at 11:09 AM (#6081664)
Of course, it is easy to blame the college players, but I wonder where the concept of obnoxious bat flips by players who hit home runs first came from? Of course, it was MLB players, whom we call colorful and adding life back into the game.
   10. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: June 14, 2022 at 12:09 PM (#6081674)
I don't mind bat flips -- some are cool, some are not, most are somewhere in between, and so I find them morally unobjectionable and because they're generally unobjectionable I don't usually object to them. I do think that there has arisen a kind of performative fandom around bat flips in reaction to the moral hyperventilating we saw however many years ago, and that has grown somewhat obnoxious, more so than the bat flips themselves. Guy hits a 440-foot home run off a 100-MPH fastball and the reaction is "Oh my God look at the bat flip!" Some random Korean League player no one has ever heard of flips his bat after hitting a homer in a game no one in America cares about and it goes viral. A guy threw his bat in the air -- it's not a big deal. Also, the battle is basically won. We can all chill about the bat flips.

I don't know how much of that has trickled down to the college, high school and youth league levels -- it probably has to some extent. But 18-to-22-year-old college athletes have never needed much prodding to be obnoxious.
   11. Bad Fish Posted: June 14, 2022 at 01:33 PM (#6081679)
I tend to be more of an "act like you've been there before" guy, but am not offended at spontaneous celebrations, even ones that are little boisterous. That is the sort of thing that adds color to the game, even if it's not my cup of tea. One of the functions of the unspoken rules are to self moderate the boisterousness. I draw the line at directly demeaning your opponent, that is poor sportsmanship.
   12. Zonk demands an audit of your post Posted: June 14, 2022 at 01:33 PM (#6081680)
Very happy to see ND advance, its an upset for sure but ND was ranked all season so its not as big of an upset as some may think


ND *had* rather quietly evolved into one of the top cold weather programs in the NCAA under Paul Mainieri - he left for LSU about 15 years ago (he's an LSU alum). The Irish took a step back under Schrage and Aoki, but the early returns under Link Jarrett look pretty solid.
   13. bfan Posted: June 14, 2022 at 01:40 PM (#6081682)
I tend to be more of an "act like you've been there before" guy, but am not offended at spontaneous celebrations, even ones that are little boisterous. That is the sort of thing that adds color to the game, even if it's not my cup of tea. One of the functions of the unspoken rules are to self moderate the boisterousness. I draw the line at directly demeaning your opponent, that is poor sportsmanship.


I am reminded of touchdown celebrations, which have gone from individual expressions of glee to 3 act plays. I am normally not a believer in "slippery slope" arguments, but this would be exhibit 1 in the argument that they exist and you must be wary of them. Had the NFL been tougher on early celebrations, I doubt you would have the entire offense running into the end zone after a TD, sitting down in pattern, and pretending to be rowing a boat. I am sure some like that though and see that as colorful.
   14. JJ1986 Posted: June 14, 2022 at 01:48 PM (#6081684)
I am reminded of touchdown celebrations, which have gone from individual expressions of glee to 3 act plays. I am normally not a believer in "slippery slope" arguments, but this would be exhibit 1 in the argument that they exist and you must be wary of them. Had the NFL been tougher on early celebrations, I doubt you would have the entire offense running into the end zone after a TD, sitting down in pattern, and pretending to be rowing a boat. I am sure some like that though and see that as colorful.
Do you watch the NFL?
   15. SoSH U at work Posted: June 14, 2022 at 02:00 PM (#6081686)
One of the "highlights" is Jordan Beck homering then giving the finger to the outfield as he rounded the bases


If you don't want your opponent flipping your outfield the bird, then don't allow him to hit the ball over your center fielder's head in the late innings.
   16. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: June 14, 2022 at 02:04 PM (#6081688)
I am reminded of touchdown celebrations, which have gone from individual expressions of glee to 3 act plays. I am normally not a believer in "slippery slope" arguments, but this would be exhibit 1 in the argument that they exist and you must be wary of them. Had the NFL been tougher on early celebrations, I doubt you would have the entire offense running into the end zone after a TD, sitting down in pattern, and pretending to be rowing a boat. I am sure some like that though and see that as colorful.


While I'm not a huge fan of any boisterous, "look at what I did!" celebration, I appreciate the team-oriented NFL celebrations a lot more than Terrell Owens signing a football. I don't mind teammates celebrating each other. That's hard to do in baseball, so I tend to be in favor of waiting until you get to the dugout to get really excited.

That said, the bat flip horse is out of the barn, and at this point my main problem with the behavior is when players stare at their hits and don't run hard out of the box. There are few enough balls in play; it's not too much to ask that we get full effort on any ball that has even a remote chance of being in play. And that's where the trickle-down to youth leagues can be a problem. Plus, as bad as emotional maturity is at the MLB level, it's even less developed for 11- and 12-year-olds. Kids making each other cry on the field is not a good thing.

To bring it back to Tennessee, any gesture that is disrespectful to opponents or umpires is out of line. I'm no Notre Dame fan, but good for them if that's what Tennessee is all about.
   17. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: June 14, 2022 at 02:12 PM (#6081691)
Do you watch the NFL?

99% chance he stopped watching due to "kneeling".
   18. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: June 14, 2022 at 04:27 PM (#6081734)

One of the "highlights" is Jordan Beck homering then giving the finger to the outfield as he rounded the bases

Of course, it is easy to blame the college players, but I wonder where the concept of obnoxious bat flips by players who hit home runs first came from? Of course, it was MLB players, whom we call colorful and adding life back into the game.

What do bat flips at the MLB level have to do with something very different from a bat flip at the college level?
   19. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 14, 2022 at 04:33 PM (#6081737)
I love celebrations, I think the line is when you do anything in the direction of the other team. I don't think that's a particularly difficult line to discern either.
   20. SoSH U at work Posted: June 14, 2022 at 05:15 PM (#6081745)
What do bat flips at the MLB level have to do with something very different from a bat flip at the college level?


The finger wasn't the only instance of Vols players acting like ########. There was also an angry bat spike, which is very similar to Jose Bautista's much-heralded bat fling in the ALDS against the Rangers.

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