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Wednesday, May 05, 2021

NY lifting capacity limits for vaccinated Mets, Yankees fans

New York state is lifting occupancy limits for vaccinated fans attending Mets and Yankees games as part of the major reopening push, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Wednesday.

The new rules allow vaccinated fans, as well as their children under age 16, to sit in special seating sections at Yankee Stadium and Citi Field in the Bronx and Flushing, respectively. The fans would still be required to wear face coverings.

Unvaccinated fans attending the games will be seated in sections with a 33% occupancy limit and a six-foot social distance rule.

Further, fans will be offered a COVID-19 vaccine at the stadiums, and those taking the shot will receive a free ticket to a game, Cuomo said.

“It’s on your way. Stop and get your vaccine,” he added.

 

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 05, 2021 at 12:25 PM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 05, 2021 at 02:24 PM (#6017088)
So, vaccinated fans will sit in ‘full capacity’ sections, while unvaccinated fans will be accommodated in roomier, socially distanced sections at 33% of capacity, with masks required for all regardless of vaccine status? Unless the better seat locations are allocated to the vaccinated sections, not much incentive to opt for the full-capacity seats, unless one is unusually fond of their fellow man.
   2. Jay Seaver Posted: May 05, 2021 at 02:42 PM (#6017093)
I guess that's one take, although I kind of find it weird to go something like a ballgame and not feel like I'm part of a crowd - the communal experience and feeding off each other's excitement is part of the fun. Sure, there are other enjoyable aspects about attending a game in person, but Covid seating plans seem a little far from the happy medium.

I wouldn't be surprised if the teams put the vaccinated seats in the better locations, just to make it look nicer on TV.
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 05, 2021 at 02:45 PM (#6017094)
Is there a reason to require the vaccinated people wear masks when seated? I know it is CDC guidance, but I must admit, I don't understand it.
   4. SoSH U at work Posted: May 05, 2021 at 02:53 PM (#6017096)
Letting the vaccinated go maskless seems like a nice incentive for the unvaccinated fan to change his mind.
   5. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 05, 2021 at 03:17 PM (#6017102)
I guess that's one take, although I kind of find it weird to go something like a ballgame and not feel like I'm part of a crowd
I think the original lyrics were "Take me out to the ball game, take me out to the place where I can have enough distance between me and the next person over to stretch out a bit..."
   6. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 05, 2021 at 03:32 PM (#6017109)
Letting the vaccinated go maskless seems like a nice incentive for the unvaccinated fan to change his mind.

Yup. Imposing restrictions on the vaccinated is stupid. Infections rates are plummeting. Time to get back to normal.
   7. Howie Menckel Posted: May 05, 2021 at 03:58 PM (#6017119)
I went to deGrom's last game (EVER? wait, I save that for the self-immolation thread), last Wednesday at Citi Field.

if we have to wear a mask no matter where I sit, we'll seriously consider claiming to be unvaccinated (even though I was "one and done" more than a month ago), so I can sit in a "roomy" section. and I doubt we'd be the only ones.
   8. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: May 05, 2021 at 04:11 PM (#6017123)
I'm going to my 2nd game at Wrigley tonight, and now that I'm old* and going with my kid, I am surprised how much I preferred to the roomier environment. Of course, Wrigley is not exactly the most comfortable experience anyway, so they extra room is greatly appreciated there. There were enough people to still make it exciting enough.


*Though still much younger than all you geriatric #######
   9. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 05, 2021 at 04:17 PM (#6017124)
In Fenway, they have to block off about a dozen seats to keep people six feet apart.
   10. Tom Goes to the Ballpark Posted: May 05, 2021 at 04:46 PM (#6017132)
I wouldn't be surprised if the teams put the vaccinated seats in the better locations, just to make it look nicer on TV.
It also makes sense fiscally. Teams are incentivized to increase density in the sections with the highest ticket cost and push the lower density seating to the cheap seats.

Realistically, I don’t know if it ever comes to that because most stadiums will be at full capacity in the next 6-8 weeks.
   11. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: May 05, 2021 at 05:03 PM (#6017141)
Further, fans will be offered a COVID-19 vaccine at the stadiums, and those taking the shot will receive a free ticket to a game, Cuomo said.



Wait, what?! I drove 30 minutes for my first shot and 40 minutes for my second so I could get them as soon as possible. And these dilly-dalliers get rewarded with free tickets?

Is there a reason to require the vaccinated people wear masks when seated? I know it is CDC guidance, but I must admit, I don't understand it.


I feel like the CDC guidance is more about not wanting unvaccinated people to pretend their vaccinated and drop their masks. Outdoor transition in non-crowded places is so rare that it doesn't really matter if unvaccinated people drop their masks there, so the CDC dropped that recommendation for the vaccinated. Note that is total speculation on my part. The CDC is known for being overly cautious in general, of course (e.g. they say not to eat raw cookie dough because of salmonella).
   12. Tom Goes to the Ballpark Posted: May 05, 2021 at 05:22 PM (#6017146)
Wait, what?! I drove 30 minutes for my first shot and 40 minutes for my second so I could get them as soon as possible. And these dilly-dalliers get rewarded with free tickets?
We have reached the “adding a 6 WAR player to a 75 win team” point of the vaccination campaign. The rewards are likely to get juicier as we try and get numbers over 75%.
   13. Baldrick Posted: May 05, 2021 at 09:15 PM (#6017206)
Wait, what?! I drove 30 minutes for my first shot and 40 minutes for my second so I could get them as soon as possible. And these dilly-dalliers get rewarded with free tickets?

Well, you (and I) got rewarded with getting the COVID vaccine.
   14. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 05, 2021 at 09:25 PM (#6017210)
We have reached the “adding a 6 WAR player to a 75 win team” point of the vaccination campaign. The rewards are likely to get juicier as we try and get numbers over 75%.

With the number of vaccinated, plus the number of infected, the rewards are almost purely private now. The health system isn't getting overwhelmed, and the cases among the un-vaccinated/non-immune aren't going to shut down the economy. If people don't want to get vaccinated, that's their right, and their business. They'll be the only ones to bear the cost if the get a serious case.
   15. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: May 05, 2021 at 10:05 PM (#6017219)
[13] Oh yeah, definitely. If I got the choice of get vaccinated in March or wait until May but get free Dodger tickets, I'd have no question that I'd made the right decision. I saw West Virginia is straight up giving people $100 to get vaccinated. I would have paid $100 to get vaccinated without hesitancy.
   16. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 05, 2021 at 10:57 PM (#6017228)
I saw West Virginia is straight up giving people $100 to get vaccinated. I would have paid $100 to get vaccinated without hesitancy.
IIRC, it’s a U.S. Savings Bond, which I think still has a 6-month waiting period before redemption. So, not quite like getting a C-Note on the spot.
   17. Hank Gillette Posted: May 06, 2021 at 06:27 AM (#6017252)
If people don't want to get vaccinated, that's their right, and their business. They'll be the only ones to bear the cost if the get a serious case.


They and all the people who pay health insurance premiums.
   18. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 06, 2021 at 08:56 AM (#6017264)

They and all the people who pay health insurance premiums.


No, that's a non-starter argument. That would give the state the ability to regulate every aspect of someone's life that had any bearing on health outcomes.
   19. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: May 06, 2021 at 09:18 AM (#6017268)
It's not a non-starter argument, it's a fact. I completely agree that medical professionals should provide treatment to all who need it regardless of cause or ability to pay. But it's going to increase costs. That's simply a fact.
   20. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 06, 2021 at 09:25 AM (#6017271)

If people don't want to get vaccinated, that's their right, and their business. They'll be the only ones to bear the cost if the get a serious case.


Well them and the people they spread it to that can't get vaccinated.
   21. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: May 06, 2021 at 11:00 AM (#6017288)
Well them and the people they spread it to that can't get vaccinated.


And the higher likelihood of COVID variants that will spawn off of them that could infect vaccinated people.

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