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Monday, October 17, 2011

Officer.com: Fla. Trooper’s Death Haunts Family After 50 Years

Even though Baseball-Reference has Edwin Gasque as still being alive!

The University of Tampa gave Eddie a full scholarship to play baseball. He pitched so well for two years, the Cleveland Indians drafted him and gave him a $25,000 bonus and a ticket to the minor leagues.

At 19, he won 13 games for the Daytona Beach Islanders. He met Kate at the beach and they married on Sept. 22, 1951. The next season, “The Big Q” won 20 of 27 decisions. He expected Cleveland would call him up any minute, but the Indians already had four of baseball’s best pitchers: Bob Feller, Mike Garcia, Bob Lemon and Early Wynn.

On June 29, 1952, Eddie and Kate celebrated the arrival of a daughter they named Katherine Ann. A few months later, the Army came calling. Pvt. Gasque’s assignment for the next two years: baseball. The 220-pound right-hander pitched the Third Army to the service championship.

After his discharge, he played three more seasons for Cleveland’s minor league teams. In Indianapolis, his roommate on road trips was 21-year-old Roger Maris, who would go on to break Babe Ruth’s single-season home run record as one of the greatest of all New York Yankees.

Eddie, meanwhile, grew tired of the travel. He suffered several injuries, including a broken bone in his throwing arm during winter league competition in Venezuela. At 28, with a wife, daughter and 3-year-old son, he yearned for a more traditional life.

Repoz Posted: October 17, 2011 at 02:25 PM | 24 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: history, indians, minor leagues, obituaries

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   1. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 17, 2011 at 02:46 PM (#3966102)
Even though Baseball-Reference has Edwin Gasque as still being alive!


I turned in the update, in case anyone was wondering.

Sad story.
   2. and Posted: October 17, 2011 at 03:07 PM (#3966121)
That story did not brighten my Monday morning.


"I got good at it (safecracking)," he said. By 1953, he was serving a four-year prison sentence for burglary.

If you're good at it, you don't get caught. The killer sounds like a real, general purpose scumbag.
   3. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 17, 2011 at 03:19 PM (#3966136)
The killer sounds like a real, general purpose scumbag.

Yup. The amazing part is he got paroled, and then of course beat someone senseless and got sent right back up the river.

Not sure how a guy who shot two cops in one day (killing one) gets parole though.
   4. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 17, 2011 at 03:51 PM (#3966168)
He pitched so well for two years, the Cleveland Indians drafted him and gave him a $25,000 bonus and a ticket to the minor leagues.[emphasis added]

I think Cleveland just scouted him and signed him to a contract. The draft didn't start until 1965.
   5. Swoboda is freedom Posted: October 17, 2011 at 03:59 PM (#3966177)
Fifty years after Addison killed Eddie Gasque, the enormity of what he did is not lost on him.

"Am I sorry? Of course. Look what it did to his family and to mine. I took his life and ruined mine."



Sounds like he is much more sorry about ruining his own life than taking someone's life.
   6. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: October 17, 2011 at 04:10 PM (#3966190)
When guys get parole, #### it up and get sent back to jail, they should have to write letters of apology to every single inmate who is eligible for parole.
Nobody remembers the 87 guys who became solid citizens if #88 gets out and commits some horrible crime.
   7. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 17, 2011 at 04:44 PM (#3966222)
Not sure how a guy who shot two cops in one day (killing one) gets parole though.

After only serving 20 years -- not that long given the severity of the crimes and prior record.
   8. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 17, 2011 at 04:45 PM (#3966223)
Not sure how a guy who shot two cops in one day (killing one) gets parole though.


He'd been in jail for 20 years at that point, which they probably considered to be a sufficient amount of time for him to have been rehabilitated (since he learned how to be a dental technician or whatever).

Apparently, they were wrong.
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 17, 2011 at 04:54 PM (#3966231)
He'd been in jail for 20 years at that point, which they probably considered to be a sufficient amount of time for him to have been rehabilitated (since he learned how to be a dental technician or whatever).

Apparently, they were wrong.


This a major problem with the anti-death penalty position. People promote life in prison as an alternative, but then life ends up often being <20 years, and the guy gets out to committ more crimes.

If life doesn't mean life for a cop killer, who was already a felon, and prison escapee, it has no meaning.
   10. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: October 17, 2011 at 04:54 PM (#3966232)
He'd been in jail for 20 years at that point, which they probably considered to be a sufficient amount of time for him to have been rehabilitated (since he learned how to be a dental technician or whatever).

Apparently, they were wrong.

Wanting to necome a dental technician should have clued them in that something wasn't right...
   11. Javy Joan Baez (chris h.) Posted: October 17, 2011 at 05:04 PM (#3966246)
This a major problem with the anti-death penalty position. People promote life in prison as an alternative, but then life ends up often being <20 years, and the guy gets out to committ more crimes.

If life doesn't mean life for a cop killer, who was already a felon, and prison escapee, it has no meaning.

So the problem with the death penalty is the alternative, because there's no way that the alternative could be fixed, right?

Got it. Easier to just kill 'em.
   12. Rants Mulliniks Posted: October 17, 2011 at 05:05 PM (#3966247)
Not sure how a guy who shot two cops in one day (killing one) gets parole though.


Yeah, they were so tough on crime back in the olden days.
   13. DKDC Posted: October 17, 2011 at 05:09 PM (#3966253)
This a major problem with the anti-death penalty position.


It's not just a major problem, it's THE problem, just like Type I errors are THE problem with the pro-death penalty position.

Both can have unjust and horrific consequences that can shake one's faith in the justice system.
   14. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: October 17, 2011 at 05:20 PM (#3966268)
Gus Polidor was born the same day Gasque was shot. 33 years later, Polidor was also killed by robbers.
   15. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 17, 2011 at 05:30 PM (#3966276)
This a major problem with the anti-death penalty position. People promote life in prison as an alternative, but then life ends up often being <20 years, and the guy gets out to committ more crimes.


Seems like a fairly minor fix, if you're worried about that. Just increase the minimum sentence for the offense.

Beats the hell out of accidentally killing an innocent man.
   16. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: October 17, 2011 at 05:51 PM (#3966305)
This a major problem with the anti-death penalty position. People promote life in prison as an alternative, but then life ends up often being <20 years, and the guy gets out to committ more crimes.


You're pro death penalty? How do you reconcile that with the Church's teachings?
   17. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq., LLC Posted: October 17, 2011 at 05:56 PM (#3966315)
This Gasque fellow sure had some control problems, huh?
   18. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 17, 2011 at 06:08 PM (#3966340)
You're pro death penalty? How do you reconcile that with the Church's teachings?

The Church's position on the death penalty is (as it always has been) that it is permissible. It is up to the competent civil authorities of each country to determine if it is necessary. Catholics are free to oppose or support the death penalty based on their judgement.

See section 3 of the letter from (then) Cardinal Ratzinger.

http://www.priestsforlife.org/magisterium/bishops/04-07ratzingerommunion.htm

It's not just a major problem, it's THE problem, just like Type I errors are THE problem with the pro-death penalty position.

Both can have unjust and horrific consequences that can shake one's faith in the justice system.


Well put.

Seems like a fairly minor fix, if you're worried about that. Just increase the minimum sentence for the offense.

Beats the hell out of accidentally killing an innocent man.


Apparently not, since convicted murderers rarely actually die in prison.
   19. Javy Joan Baez (chris h.) Posted: October 17, 2011 at 06:14 PM (#3966353)
Apparently not, since convicted murderers rarely actually die in prison.

I don't understand this argument. Are you suggesting it's not a minor fix, as evidenced by the fact that it has not been fixed yet?

The problem with my front gutter requires a minor fix, but I haven't done it yet, either.
   20. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 17, 2011 at 06:21 PM (#3966368)
Apparently not, since convicted murderers rarely actually die in prison.


Since when is "convicted murderers dying in prison" supposed to be the goal?
   21. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 17, 2011 at 06:25 PM (#3966378)
I don't understand this argument. Are you suggesting it's not a minor fix, as evidenced by the fact that it has not been fixed yet?

Yes. People have been talking about "life-without-parole" for decades, yet almost all murderers seem to be paroled eventually.

Since when is "convicted murderers dying in prison" supposed to be the goal?

It's the goal of life-without-parole.

If we are to be convinced that life imprisonment is a suitable punishment for crimes so heinous they would normally call for execution, we have to be convinced life means life.

If someone can commit a horrible murder, with the aggravating circumstances that typically call for execution (rape, multiple or serial killings, murder of a policeman or prison guard, etc.), and conceivable be walking the streets at age 50 or 60, then justice is gravely injured.
   22. Javy Joan Baez (chris h.) Posted: October 17, 2011 at 06:28 PM (#3966383)
Yes. People have been talking about "life-without-parole" for decades, yet almost all murderers seem to be paroled eventually.

Unless you can show some actual numbers behind this assertion, along with an even basic explanation as to why you think this cannot be fixed (other than, "Well, it hasn't so far,") this seems like a pretty silly argument.
   23. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 17, 2011 at 06:33 PM (#3966388)
It's the goal of life-without-parole.


Where did we say that "life-without-parole" should be the goal, either?

You said that less than 20 years was too little, so I said you could raise the number of years.

with the aggravating circumstances that typically call for execution


"Aggravating circumstances" only "call for execution" if you believe in the death penalty.
   24. SteveM. Posted: October 17, 2011 at 08:40 PM (#3966555)
I hope the bastard dies alone in jail of a miserable death. What a waste of humanity.

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