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maybe I'm wrong - but if I didn't know better, I'd almost think from the comments in 191, 196, and yet again in 198, that this is not your all-time favorite song? sometimes the internet doesn't clarify sentiments very effectively.
Yes, not remotely close, it's literally the single most anti-American song produced, and it's sung by idiots thinking it's actually patriotic and honoring of this country. It's a soup can jingle, with anti-American sentiments in the title (putting god and America in the same sentence is the definition of anti-American---god is absolutely the single greatest evil ever created by mankind, having a song connecting it to my country is just plain disgusting.)
I noted this in yesterday's game(they lost 7-3) and the dynamic duo were 0-8. It would be interesting to see what their record is when neither records a hit. I don't know how to search on that though...
He's up to 21.1 innings. 4 hits, no walks.
oh you are exaggerating, he had a .194 whip coming into today.... (over 20 innings) (and yes I'm kidding)
One thing the web has taught is the ability to change habits.
I think he missed the point of the first guy.
Vientos already had 13 HR in AAA - they could not keep him down on the farm.
he played 3B, Escobar started at 2B, as he has played on occasion every year of his career but only for more than a dozen starts twice. Pham at DH. as I noted here after attending last night's debacle - something's gotta give.
2018
Both start: 1–8 team record
Ohtani PH (1 PA/g): 0–5 team record
2019
Both start: 2–6
Ohtani PH (1 PA/g): 1–0
2020
Both start: 0–5
2021
Both start: 1–3
2022
Both start: 3–10
Ohtani PH (1 PA/g): 0–1
2023
Both start: 0–3
I assume the short hand is that you are listing games in which they didn't get hits, does that include no walks etc... (meaning they were completely irrelevant to the win)?
they have not rallied to win from 3 runs down all season.
but first and second, no out, and here come the three 5-star phenoms
Baty - who whiffs
Vientos - who flies out
Alvarez - who HOMERS and it's 5-5. wtf
btw, not only is Alvarez a really good D catcher, too, the Mets INF seems more set for years than any in MLB:
C Alvarez
1B Alonso
2B McNeil
3B Baty
SS Lindor
sure, the entire staff except Senga and maybe Drew Smith won't be around for 2025 and only Nimmo is longterm in OF, but that is some infield - and 6 longterm, solid starters on offense is a good foundation.
It makes sense. If any team has its number 3/4 hitters take o-fers, it's hard to win. That's anywhere from 6 to 10 outs out of 27 right in the middle of your order.
I know, and it's obviously not accurate indication of the quality of their team, just look at last year and you see a couple of guys who are 3 war players, and another group of 4 who were 2 war players etc... which is why they won 72 games last season, but it's still a top heavy lineup. (I am not analyzing the team enough to know where they can find average players at to supplement their team. Based upon the war rankings on positions, Catcher, 1st, third, left, were big opportunities,... but as a person who isn't analyzing them I don't know what the deal was with any of those positions, (and relief pitching)
the feel from an outside observer is that they are hugely dependent on their superstars.
I seriously doubt it, It would be below their actual record of course, but the Cardinals and most other teams can find a third and fourth player that carried them, heck DeJong has carried this team multiple games alone. This season Gorman has clearly carried the team etc... I mean the first game I found with Goldy last year (game 161 of last season) Arenado had the day off, Albert drove in 2 runs etc... The Cardinals and most other good teams aren't really locked into just two quality offensive players, and the Angels didn't plan it, with the Rendon signing they were kinda hoping for that third big bat. (and coming into this season hoping Taylor Ward would be that guy?)
Of course someone like Hombre would know better, but Arte Moreno seems to use the George Steinbrenner approach of collecting marquee names rather than building a team. I'm not sure if that's ever worked anywhere. Maybe the Huizenga Marlins or '01 DBacks.
Mets 1st and 3rd, 1 out, here comes The Polar Bear and....
HE LAUNCHES IT INTO THE SECOND DECK FOR AN 8-7 WIN
first walkoff W of year for the Mets
meager crowd again, Mets down 5-2 with 2 outs in the 9th, down 7-5 with 1 out in the 10th....
if the Mets were nimble, they would have somehow found a way to get some sort of "thank you" at the exits to the diehards who stuck around on a (unlike last night) cool evening for the end. these are the fans you want to embrace.
even if it's just a $10 credit at the gift shop - they deserve something.
#yougottabelieve
meanwhile the Yankees just lost 3-0 on a 3-run tater by Jansen in the bottom of the 10th.
game shown only on Prime, so plenty of their fans were prevented from viewing that tough L.
Assuming you mean Arenado and Goldschmidt... April 19th against the DBacks is the only game this year they both went hitless. They still won 14–5 (Bumgarner's last start before being DFA'd).
From 2022.
Game 161, 152, 147, 132, 114, 102. 93, 89... qualifies for 2022. I didn't look up to see the games in which they both went hitless and we lost, this is just the games they both went hitless and we won... and again, the caveat's apply, I could have made mistakes. The way I did it, was to go to Goldy's game logs by season, sort by games in which he had zero hits, and then clicked each game that we won to see if Arenado had a hit, operator error is very much a possibility here.
DETROIT -- Pheidippides’ run from the battle of Marathon to Athens. Harry Truman’s run through the Capitol. Roger Bannister’s four-minute mile. And now, Rich Hill.
Against the Tigers on Wednesday at Comerica Park, the 43-year-old hurler added his name to the list of history’s unforgettable sprints. With two outs in the second, Miguel Cabrera ripped a hard grounder that first baseman Carlos Santana smothered with a diving stop. After a moment of hesitation, Hill took off to cover first, racing the 40-year-old slugger to the bag.
Hill ultimately reached the base first to record the put-out and end the inning, reaching a top speed of 21.7 feet per second, though Cabrera actually outraced him with a season-high 25.3 ft/sec sprint speed.
Hill, Santana and Cabrera have a combined age of 120.
That has always been a big reason I have opposed a balanced schedule. It's very unlikely to have a sub .500 team with divisional schedule, it's very possible with a balanced schedule, bb-ref has the Cardinals chance of making the playoffs at 56.8% right now(it's obviously going up a couple of points tomorrow)
I really do hate negative attitudes... I get why they exist and all, but considering I have spent a good amount of time in the hospitals this past year, and the question of my blood type comes up, and I respond, B+, just like the way I look at life(or something similar)
I just do not get people being negative, my team is in last place and I'm very positive that they are still going to win the division this year.
2023 AAA 134 PA, 330/425/730 with 11 HRs
2023 MLB 35 PA, 371/389/857 with 5 HRs
OK, OK, that's barely a 60-HR pace but he's also got 11 doubles and 2 triples across the levels. That would be (theoretically) a pace that would give him a shot at the all-time record for XBH in a season (Ruth 119, Gehrig 117). Pay no attention to the 55 Ks.
Except with regards to soccer, we know you have absolutely no positive feelings about soccer....;-)
Honestly I love soccer, I grew up in St Louis, the soccer capital of the country. My issue is that it's a sport for children, and at the professional level it's been perfected into boredom. The entire concept of spending 20 minutes waiting for a potential goal is boring as ####### hell... indoor soccer is much better and on par with hockey for being interesting. And most of my negative comments are based upon weird ass people making claims that soccer is going to surpass hockey in this country in success/popularity, when there is literally no evidence of that happening. Saying that is negative is like saying someone claiming that pitcher B is not a good pitcher... I'm just talking facts. But of course my comment was more targeted to a fan of something who is constantly negative towards the thing they are fans of, which is a bit different.
often even in the same city.
Normally something like that would be due to interleague, but the AL is only 5 ahead so far this year. (Yesterday the AL went 7-0! But the NL struck back today going 5-2.) So mainly it's just "luck" -- Braves and Dodgers are doing really well but everybody else is between 409 (Cards) and 568 (DBacks). Now that the Cards, Rox and most surprisingly the Nats have righted their ships, nobody in the NL is giving away wins. Over in the AL, the A's, Royals and White Sox are stinking the joint up so somebody has to get those wins.
The NLC is the poor cousin but it's not embarrassing itself or anything: 15-20 vs NLE, 23-31 vs NLW, 40-37 vs AL. The Cards at 11-20 outside the division are responsible for a good chunk of that.
And this fricking schedule that I think I hate ... the Brewers have 9 games in the division (5-4) but 16 against NLW and 15 against AL. The Cubs have played just 8 in the division (3-5) with 10 against NLE, 10 NLW and 15 AL. Pitt at 7-4 "leads" the NLC, the Cards with 13 games have the most games played within the division (7-6).
This new balanced schedule is gonna produce stuff like this I suppose. Obviously back in the days before interleague at all, for every big winner, there was almost always a big loser. Original interleague didn't change that a lot because there were so few games. Now that balancing will be much more across all of MLB as opposed to within a league much less a division. All told there have been about 652 games and 179 (27%) have been interleague, another 279 (43%) inter-division. That leaves just 194 (30%) games within the divisions. At this stage, any claims that X are the best team in the division need to be based on "X has done better against common opponents than Y." (The Rays are 22-5 outside the ALE which, no matter which teams they've actually played, is pretty crazy.)
The best within-division records in each:
Tampa 10-7 (hardly amazing)
Minn 10-6
Tex 11-5
Atl 10-3 (the real Tampa?)
Pitt 7-4
LAD 12-7
Obviously all of those subject to the random variation of who they've actually played in the division.
um have you checked the capacity of the stadiums for those teams? Number of games? Compare it to NBA etc... Attendance is just one factor, nobody honestly thinks the mls is competitive with the nhl. I mean some morons might be, but people being stupid is no reason to accept their reasoning, heck you might as well oppose the 2020 election with that thinking. NHL average 18,250 NBA averaged a record 18,077, do you really think the mls is more popular than the nba?
I'm only messing with you mate, I understood what your original post was all about. Constant negativity is a massive downer and I've pretty much culled everyone from my life who's more often negative then positive.
I just do not see a legit argument for a balanced schedule in a wild card era with divisions. It's just pure idiocy. If you want a balanced schedule, get rid of divisions.
dude, switching to decaf might improve your mood dramatically.
your constant effort to jam extraneous political viewpoints in discussions about baseball is - well, it's annoying.
but they eked out a close win and take the series from the mighty Rays, so that works.
Self-immolation thread monitor deactivated for now.
56 intra-division (14 each)
60 intra-league, outside division (6 each)
46 inter-league (3 each and one extra against the "rival")
So barely 1/3 of a team's games within their division. Makes no sense to me. Nearly as many games outside of the league as in the division.
Now the article I found does note some positives. Now this first positive makes no sense to me ... teams within the same division will have 91% of their games in common? How is that not 100% other than the one extra vs the interleague rival? Near as I can tell it's ... believe it or not ... that the Pirates play the Cardinals while the Cardinals don't -- they play the Pirates. Nevertheless, it is an increase from 84% so it's good that divisional standings are at least based on essentially an identical schedule.
Also, and this probably is the big one in the WC era, teams in the same league have 76% of the same opponents, up from 52%, and I assume that doesn't include their head-to-head matchups either. I personally think that much interleague is counter-productive schedule-wise but who doesn't want more Ohtani in their town? And I think this gets rid of most 2-game series -- the rival is the only one that requires it, presumably also some intra-division. I don't imagine anybody likes 2-game series much.
This was, um, kind of an over-the-top response to a pretty mild post? The Cubs had a promising start to the season; they are no longer having a promising start (Morel, Steele, and some other individual bright spots aside). I don't think they're inherently doomed, either this year or moving forward, but they're playing bad right now. That's literally all I said.
It was probably a subliminal response to the dozens of haters who have come out of the woodwork in St. Louis. People who never talk baseball in their life, are now talking about firing the manager, the GM, trading players, the team being dysfunctional etc... I'm fairly certain my response might have been directed to the original post, but my deeper thought was probably directed at the dozens of idiots who are making up stories about my team and projecting their negative fantasies into how bad the team is being run, when the reality is that there really is nothing going on, just a bunch of idiots projecting because they assume dysfunction because that is what they live in and for.
I just can't fathom being a fan of something, and being eager to bring up the negatives instead of bracing the positives,( You see it in sci-fi fandoms, comic fandoms, anime fandoms, and I'm sure others also...I mean the entire D&D community is positively giddy over bashing Hasbro(same with Magic the Gathering fandom, but there they are probably in the right) It's as if being a fan of something, the biggest thrill is bashing on it for a vocal percentage.
Christianity, the choice of bigots, ignorance, hypocrites and intolerance.
hard to believe that those quotes are from the same poster.
or maybe it's a shared account? #shrugemoji
enjoyment of soccer is directly related to two things:
-- inverse proximity to a beach
-- blood alcohol content
by these measures, kansas is the ohio of soccer in america.
mlb batting average is up 5 pts from the last couple of years. I asked people where we thought we'd end up, I think CFB was more in the 10 pt range. Bill James I think was in the 4-5 pt range. I think Walt also 5 pt. I wasnt really sure then I realized 10 pts just seemed way to high.
SB rate up to 78% or. It was really hard to predict where this would land other than being up.
Shout out to Howie: The NYM playoff chances have dropped 50% in the last 30 days, the biggest drop in that time period at least per the weird baseballref playoff odds calculator.
Whats happened to Schwarber? His babip is currently at 189. Is that a good sign or a bad sign?
LAD playoff odds at 99.9% per the weird baseballref tracker. That just sounds ridiculous for this early in the season. Fangraphs posts 4 different methods, with the seasonal method the highest at 98.5%. But that method seems to overly weight recent data, putting the PIT at 40% which seems generous. The other high mark is the ATC method putting LAD at 97.5% probably a better guess.
The weirdest part of the baseballref tracker is the % change in the past x days stat. Example The PHI playoff chances dropped 7.2% in the past day! wtf? come on how is that possible short of a terrible accident?
I'm a very positive fan of the things I'm a fan of, I can be somewhat realistic at time, but I err on the side of optimism. I find people who identify as "realist" are often negativist who use the self proclaimed title of realist as a defense of their negativity.(just like people who are bigots will preface their statements, I can be a realist in admitting that Lou Brock is a borderline hofer, even though as a Cardinal fan, he's absolutely a Cardinal hofer, I also can be a realist in debating Waino's chances (zero) Yadier (near lock, but maybe not deserved) for the hof etc. The self proclaimed realists will instead focus on a single negative comment made by the gm or manager, and make claims that their job is in jeopardy or they have lost the clubhouse, when a true realist would realize that it's just a straight forward comment that has no underlying meaning.
I'm a fan of the Cardinals and I look for the positive. I'm a fan of baseball, and I look for the positives there, fan of Star Wars, Doctor Who and again, look for the positives. (pretty much all nerd things) a self proclaimed realist finds the negatives and focus's on it, instead of the accepting that it's just a product of their object of affection having multiple layers. A true realist, that is a fan of something, understands that negative things might pop up, but it doesn't undermine the positive of the entire thing.
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I loved playing soccer as a kid, played organized soccer in one way or another until I was 19 real soccer until about 16, indoor soccer until 19. Everyone(hyperbole) in St Louis plays soccer until their teens. The game is fun to play until the coaches get involved. The game is boring as hell at the higher levels to a casual observer as the coaching has removed way too much of the chaotic potential of the game, at the highest levels it's more about time management, momentum management etc. Letting people just play is too dangerous/chaotic when you are dealing with the higher skill levels. So it's a game of caution more than it's a game of action. I get people who are a fan of it can appreciate that level, just like baseball fandom requires a certain level of appreciation of it's nuances more than games like football/hockey/basketball/volleyball/tennis that to a casual observer is relatively simple and straight forward (no sport at the highest level is simple of course)
edit: they did overturn the call. (and yes I do appreciate instant replay, this is one of those that was tough on the ump.. a backup call gets it accurately)
fortunately Waino works out of the situation and no runs scored.
It should count---my impression is he was breaking for the plate before the SS dropped the throw. (I could be wrong)
I thought so too, but it isn't on the gameday box score stat.
edit: going back and looking at it now, and they added it, so it did count, making it 19 consecutive steals for the Cardinals.
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