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OMNICHATTER for the October Postseason 2023

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801. salvomania Posted: October 27, 2023 at 08:41 PM (#6145756)

World Series flip.

802. cardsfanboy

Posted: October 27, 2023 at 09:26 PM (#6145757)

Not going to have a specific world series omnichatter? Seems a bit lazy.

803. cardsfanboy

Posted: October 27, 2023 at 09:48 PM (#6145758)

I will say that ultimately these are two of the teams I was hoping would be here, Arizona not so much, but definitely the Rangers. (I will always root for a team that never won it all unless they are playing the Cardinals)

Edit: Mind you there is probably nobody who I was rooting against this year(except maybe the Marlins as I have an irrational dislike of their team)

804. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 27, 2023 at 10:45 PM (#6145761)

Semianjust looks lost…. Texas really needs him to get going.

805. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 27, 2023 at 10:48 PM (#6145762)

Sometimes you run across a name that you’ve never heard before, and have no idea of it’s origin, like Mantiply.

806. Hey, you and Tommy Lasorda... I hate Tommy Lasorda Posted: October 27, 2023 at 10:58 PM (#6145763)

For 8 runs being scored, this game feels like there has not been much action.

807. PeteF3 Posted: October 28, 2023 at 01:00 AM (#6145767)

That is the 3rd consecutive World Series road game in which the Diamondbacks have surrendered a 2-run, game-tying HR in the 9th inning and gone on to lose in extras.

808. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 28, 2023 at 03:47 AM (#6145770)

sure, but with the absence of any other teams in the state, they also represent the state of new york.

yeah its an interesting argument/take. We debated this on reddit. I was of the opinion that the Highlanders name referred to the upstate area around the Hudson but someone pointed out that they got that name from Hilltop Park and also the owner was named Gordon so the press referred to him as Gordon Highlander. So I dunno.

809. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: October 28, 2023 at 06:58 AM (#6145773)

Have they changed the traditional WS schedule...you know, the one that didn't have a game on Monday because of the F word?

810. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

Posted: October 28, 2023 at 10:13 AM (#6145775)

Last night was the 9th time that game 1 of the World Series ended in a walkoff. Two questions:

1. How many of the other 8 game 1 walkoffs can you name? Bonus points if you can name the players who drove in the winning run, and double bonus points if you can add what kind of a hit (or non-hit) these walkoff heroes had.

2. Of those 8 previous Series, what was the only one where the team that won game 1 in a walkoff went on to lose the Series?

Hint: 3 of the walkoffs (not including Garcia's) were home runs, 4 were singles, and 1 was a sacrifice fly.

811. Booey Posted: October 28, 2023 at 10:22 AM (#6145776)

#810 - Kirk Gibson off of Eck in the 1988 World Series is the obvious one that came to mind.

812. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

Posted: October 28, 2023 at 11:02 AM (#6145779)

Kirk's was the last walkoff HR before last night.

813. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 28, 2023 at 11:16 AM (#6145780)

Fox long complained that it didn't want to start the WS on a Saturday night. of course it could end on a Saturday under this F-S, M, T, W, F, S format.

814. JJ1986 Posted: October 28, 2023 at 11:51 AM (#6145783)

Game 1 in 2000 was a walkoff. Pretty sure it was a single (it wasn't a HR). I don't remember who it was, but I'll guess Posada.

815. PeteF3 Posted: October 28, 2023 at 11:57 AM (#6145784)

Sac fly was 2015, Royals over the Mets.

I think 2000 was one of the singles. (This came to mind as I was running through them sequentially, and I admit I checked--yes, it was. Yankees legend Jose Vizcaino over the Mets.)

That and '88 cover all the G1 walk-offs of my lifetime, I think.

Oh, Dusty Rhodes in '54 is one of the HRs.

816. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

Posted: October 28, 2023 at 12:01 PM (#6145785)

Right on all 4 counts. I'm 79 and was alive for all but 1 of them.

817. It's regretful that PASTE was able to get out Posted: October 28, 2023 at 12:47 PM (#6145786)

I don't understand why anyone would ever throw a strike to Adolis Garcia, in any situation. Maybe if it's the bottom of the 9th+ and it's tied and the bases are loaded. But even then, you probably still should throw everything at least 8 inches outside the zone and bank on him hacking anyway.

Semianjust looks lost…. Texas really needs him to get going.

Texas really needs to glue his ass to the bench, or if they absolutely insist on playing him, bat him 8th or 9th. He's killing them.

818. The Duke Posted: October 28, 2023 at 04:47 PM (#6145798)

Read another article on MLB finances talking about how they try to stay away from scheduling on Sundays in deference to how popular the NFL is. How has it come to this that MLB is scared of the NFL? When did that happen? Must be a relatively recent occurrence

There was also a note on the two teams that had their programming go from Bally to MLB. They said MLB guaranteed 2023 tv revenue would be no worse than 80% of Bally but that this guarantee didn't apply to 2024. This implies that switching out from Bally is costing teams - 20%+ haircut. That's not surprising but interesting

819. Tony S Posted: October 28, 2023 at 05:51 PM (#6145801)

Read another article on MLB finances talking about how they try to stay away from scheduling on Sundays in deference to how popular the NFL is. How has it come to this that MLB is scared of the NFL? When did that happen? Must be a relatively recent occurrence

It's not a recent occurrence -- MLB has been losing ground to the NFL for decades -- but yes, MLB has largely put itself in this position. Can you imagine the AFC and NFC championship games being buried in TBS?

It takes some serious long-term marketing ineptitude to be reduced to scheduling your showcase event around another league's regular-season games.

820. The Duke Posted: October 28, 2023 at 06:18 PM (#6145803)

Honestly, the refusal to show games on free tv is maddening. At least put it on MLBtv so that people with subscriptions - who are your core fans - can see it

The whole remaking of baseballs structure into a baseball version of the NFL has been so destructive. Maybe they are reaping some short term rewards but the sport is descending into obscurity to be passed by MLS soon enough.

At least they shortened the games this year

821. Bote Man Posted: October 28, 2023 at 07:27 PM (#6145809)

Maybe they are reaping some short term rewards but the sport is descending into obscurity

They sold off MLBAM for a one-time payout, killing the goose that lays the golden eggs. Their middle name is "Short-Term". Their other middle name is "Short-Sighted".

822. Howie Menckel Posted: October 28, 2023 at 07:49 PM (#6145811)

from Friday night:

Danny Vietti
@DannyVietti
·
20h
Weird but true:

This is the Texas Rangers' first ever World Series game at Globe Life Field.

This is Corey Seager's 7th World Series game at Globe Life Field and his 3rd career World Series home run at Globe Life Field.

823. The Duke Posted: October 28, 2023 at 08:20 PM (#6145815)

This is a huge Game for Monty. He's playing for huge money. A couple more good showings in game 2 and 5/6 and he'll mint money this offseason

824. Tony S Posted: October 28, 2023 at 09:34 PM (#6145819)

Pham should have made second more easily on that one.

Edit: and that's the rock of the game so far.

825. The Duke Posted: October 28, 2023 at 09:42 PM (#6145820)

Will Monty go more ? Will Kelly ?

826. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 28, 2023 at 09:46 PM (#6145821)

Glad I turned on the World Series so I could watch this umpire take over the game.

827. Tony S Posted: October 28, 2023 at 10:04 PM (#6145823)

Kelly going back out for the 7th? Ok.

Well, it worked out. :)

828. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 28, 2023 at 10:14 PM (#6145824)

The important thing is that the plate ump went back out for the 7th.

829. Tony S Posted: October 28, 2023 at 10:16 PM (#6145825)

The Rangers are outstanding at fielding bunts and nubbers.

830. Tony S Posted: October 28, 2023 at 10:32 PM (#6145826)

Ketel Marté smacks a two-run, two-out single, giving him a record 18-game postseason hitting streak.

831. It's regretful that PASTE was able to get out Posted: October 31, 2023 at 10:55 AM (#6146022)

The robo-ump can't come in fast enough. I, for one, am ready to turn off the Umpshow.

832. Bote Man Posted: October 31, 2023 at 07:20 PM (#6146088)

per Jeff Passan:

Both Adolis Garcia and Max Scherzer have been removed from the Texas Rangers’ roster due to injuries. They are out for the remainder of the World Series. Utilityman Ezequiel Duran and left-handed reliever Brock Burke will replace them.

833. Howie Menckel Posted: October 31, 2023 at 07:51 PM (#6146098)

I think I previously have been successful in avoiding the vapid nonsense of Smoltz and his generic TV partner, but...

3-1 game, 9th inning.
1-0 count, borderline pitch. Smoltz and pal can't believe it's called a ball.

3-1 pitch, ball was so far outside that batter would have needed a rower's oar to get to it.

STREEEEE-RIKE!

so instead of the proper leadoff man on, tying run at the plate, the AB continues and there's a groundout and the Rangers win the game 3-1, with 2 more outs.

Smoltz concedes that the 5th pitch was a terrible call. but he also claims that:
a) the second pitch call was just as bad
b) a 1-0 pitch missed is just as crucial as a 3-1 pitch missed
c) it's unfortunate that people may forget about the bad call on the second pitch.

just to make sure I haven't lost my faculties, I put the game in reverse to re-watch the latter pitch.
it's right on the borderline. probably hit the catcher's mitt an inch low, but it was moving.

kudos for that Smoltz Trifecta Of Stupidity !

834. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 31, 2023 at 08:38 PM (#6146106)

Adolis Garcia and Max Scherzer >>> Utilityman Ezequiel Duran and left-handed reliever Brock Burke.

That sees like quite the drop off....

Rangers up 1-0 on a wild pitch.

835. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 31, 2023 at 08:41 PM (#6146108)

If you're throwing a bullpen game in the World Series, you deserve whatever you get.

836. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 31, 2023 at 09:01 PM (#6146112)

And Seager doing Seager things. I must admit, not many of us here were too positive when they give him the big contract due to his ability to stay healthy, but holy cow when he plays he absolutely rakes.

837. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 31, 2023 at 09:11 PM (#6146115)

And now I'm stuck in the house for the rest of the evening to hand out candy, and there's a totally non-competitive game on. Thanks for nothing, Diamondbacks.

838. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 31, 2023 at 09:14 PM (#6146116)

Well that went downhill fast for the Snakes. This one is done. We'll see if Texas can wrap it up tomorrow...

839. Howie Menckel Posted: October 31, 2023 at 09:35 PM (#6146118)

DraftKings made a "Cash Out" offer on my doomed $10 "Diamondbacks win tonight" bet (that would have paid $10.23 if it won). At a 10-0 score, I took that 48 cents and ran with it !

The quality of mercy is not strained;
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest;
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.

840. Srul Itza Posted: October 31, 2023 at 10:23 PM (#6146125)

Well that went downhill fast for the Snakes.

All ten runs scored with two outs. So close, and yet so far.

841. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 31, 2023 at 10:51 PM (#6146127)

I mentioned on another thread that last night’s broadcast looked really weird and orangish-red. I am happ y to report that tonight’s game looked normal, at least the 2.5 innings that I watched.

842. rr: over-entitled starf@ck3r Posted: November 01, 2023 at 12:09 AM (#6146134)

The Texas lineup wears teams down.

843. baxter Posted: November 01, 2023 at 12:53 AM (#6146136)

833. With the score placed in graphic in every shot, I really don't need the announcers. But, I must point out that before Seager's HR in G1, the announcer was saying something like he can tie it with one swing, or jumping on the first pitch and sure enough, he did. I know a stopped clock is right a couple times a day, but I thought the timing was sensational.

Years ago, I think it was Monday Night Baseball and it had guest announcers, so one of them was Red Barber (Dizzy Dean was another, big hit). Barber gave an hourglass timer, I think to Cosell?, saying every time the sand runs out, I announce the score. The game speaks for itself, most of the time.

844. Bote Man Posted: November 01, 2023 at 04:58 PM (#6146179)

Barber gave an hourglass timer, I think to Cosell?, saying every time the sand runs out, I announce the score.

That must be where Jon Miller derived that trick.

845. JJ1986 Posted: November 01, 2023 at 08:51 PM (#6146215)

John Smoltz loves the #3 hitter bunting on the first pitch.

846. sunday silence (again) Posted: November 01, 2023 at 09:10 PM (#6146219)

the espn radio guys seemed like it as well. They werent sure why Bochy didnt have the infield in when Walker was batting w/ Carroll on third.

847. Tony S Posted: November 01, 2023 at 09:19 PM (#6146222)

Gurriel getting a workout.

848. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: November 01, 2023 at 09:58 PM (#6146225)

After cruising through 6, Gallen runs into trouble in the 7th, Seager single, followed by a double and another single, Rangers up 1-0

849. The Duke Posted: November 01, 2023 at 10:00 PM (#6146228)

As long as David Freese didn't sign a one-week contract with Arizona I'm reasonably comfortable Texas has this

850. Tony S Posted: November 01, 2023 at 10:02 PM (#6146230)

Snakes had a squillion chances to score in the early innings and didn't. It's come back to bite them.

851. Dolf Lucky Posted: November 01, 2023 at 10:06 PM (#6146231)

I hope BDC is at the Rangers stadium watch party.

852. Tony S Posted: November 01, 2023 at 10:08 PM (#6146232)

Ray of hope for Arizona, getting out of that only down 1-0.

853. sunday silence (again) Posted: November 01, 2023 at 10:45 PM (#6146237)

I was so looking forward to this WS and it feels kind of disappointing...

854. JJ1986 Posted: November 01, 2023 at 10:47 PM (#6146238)

No one is ever a former-Met.

855. Tony S Posted: November 01, 2023 at 10:48 PM (#6146239)

And that's going to be the game. Congratulations to the Rangers.

856. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: November 01, 2023 at 10:48 PM (#6146240)

Well, Game 1 was pretty fun. Game 3 was decent. But the rest of the series is shaping up to be kind of a stinker.

857. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: November 01, 2023 at 10:51 PM (#6146242)

Arizona was a nice story, but at this moment, I'm realizing how we were likely deprived a much more compelling series by the elimination of the Phillies.

858. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: November 01, 2023 at 10:52 PM (#6146243)

I think we're going to avoid any sort of repeat of 2011. Congrats to the Rangers fans out there.

859. Howie Menckel Posted: November 01, 2023 at 10:53 PM (#6146245)

finally, we see the reemergence of the Paul Sewald who owns the all-time NL record for most consecutive losses to begin his NL career - 14, for the 2017-19, who else, New York Mets.

860. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: November 01, 2023 at 10:54 PM (#6146246)

14, for the 2017-19, who else, New York Mets.

I read this in the same cadence as Norm MacDonald's, "You guessed it, Frank Stallone."

861. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: November 01, 2023 at 11:01 PM (#6146247)

Pretty anti-climatic, but given 2011, I'm sure Rangers fans wouldn't have wanted it any other way.

862. Tony S Posted: November 01, 2023 at 11:02 PM (#6146248)

The Rangers just kept doing it in the road.

863. Tony S Posted: November 01, 2023 at 11:06 PM (#6146249)

There are a couple of YouTube videos out there of the final out of the world series for the last 50 years or so. They're cool to watch. This is the first time I've seen the clinching pitcher slam his glove on the ground.

864. Dolf Lucky Posted: November 01, 2023 at 11:06 PM (#6146250)

I read this in the same cadence as Norm MacDonald's, "You guessed it, Frank Stallone."

Or so the Germans would have us believe.

865. Howie Menckel Posted: November 01, 2023 at 11:21 PM (#6146252)

Will Smith gets a third World Series ring in three years - 2021 Braves, 2022 Astros, 2023 Rangers.

forgettable 2-10, 102 ERA+ in 2022-2023 regular seasons, too.

so this seems like a slap in the face to those all-time greats who never even won one ring !

866. The Duke Posted: November 01, 2023 at 11:27 PM (#6146253)

That has to be the least exciting post season ever.

I'm ready to go back to the teams with the two best records duking it out for the championship

867. sunday silence (again) Posted: November 02, 2023 at 12:30 AM (#6146260)

I see what you're saying but the ALCS and NLCS were actually quite exciting. When we had the Garcia HBP game there were 3 amazing games in 2 days. The rest of the playoffs were pretty bleh yeah.

868. sanny manguillen Posted: November 02, 2023 at 01:10 PM (#6146282)

Re the discussion around #820 about playoff games buried on TBS. I'm a cable cutter, moved back to Pittsburgh five years ago, and so am blacked out of Pirate games, and so haven't bothered to get mlb.tv, as I did when I lived elsewhere. In my first four years here, I got Sling or some such in October, but just didn't bother this year because the competition's grown so distant. I did manage to catch some of the Series.

Looks like NPB and KBO are both wrapping up this weekend?

869. sanny manguillen Posted: November 02, 2023 at 01:13 PM (#6146284)

November 2 is the birthday of both Orlando Merced and Orlando Cabrera. Here are the Furiosos:

c - Orlando Mercado
1b - Orlando Cepeda
2b - Orlando Hudson
3b - Orlando Miller
ss - Orlando Cabrera
lf - Orlando Merced
cf - Orlando Palmeiro
rf - Ralph Orlando "Socks" Seybold
sp - Orlando Hernandez
rp - Orlando Pena

spring training site: Florida
national anthem: Tony

870. The Duke Posted: November 04, 2023 at 10:00 AM (#6146483)

Can we get a Hot Stove omnichatter ?

871. JJ1986 Posted: November 07, 2023 at 12:48 PM (#6146766)

When is the minor league free agent list dropping?

872. Howie Menckel Posted: November 09, 2023 at 01:41 AM (#6146890)

Stephanie Apstein
@stephapstein
A stomach ailment has felled some 10% of the executives at MLB’s annual offseason kickoff. It’s serious enough that the league considered ending the whole thing early. The GM meetings have become the GI meetings.

Stephanie Apstein
@stephapstein
·
1h
Update: It’s definitely a virus, not food poisoning, and as a result MLB has canceled the rest of the meetings.

873. Tom Nawrocki Posted: November 09, 2023 at 10:37 AM (#6146911)

First big free-agent move of the offseason: Jason Benetti to the Tigers.

874. salvomania Posted: November 20, 2023 at 01:15 PM (#6147701)

wrong thread

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