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Monday, July 11, 2022

OMNICHATTER for the week of July 11-17, 2022

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Hombre Brotani Posted: July 11, 2022 at 01:11 PM | 188 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:09 PM (#6086872)
All-Star CJ Cron pads the Rockies' lead with a solo homer in the 7th, then Brendan Rodgers goes back to back. Rox lead the Pirates 9-2.
   102. Walt Davis Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:12 PM (#6086873)
Not quite as unexciting as a walk-off balk but strike three on a not-quite checked swing on a pitch nowhere near the plate, appeal down to third, strike 3 is not particularly exciting either. But Yanks lose! Yanks lose! so no complaints.
   103. cardsfanboy Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:15 PM (#6086874)
Donovan with a two run single for the Cardinals, giving a 7-3 score for the Reds to make their comeback from.
   104. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:18 PM (#6086875)
Not quite as unexciting as a walk-off balk but strike three on a not-quite checked swing on a pitch nowhere near the plate, appeal down to third, strike 3 is not particularly exciting either. But Yanks lose! Yanks lose! so no complaints


That was a terrible call in baseball terms, a totally justifiable call in karmic terms.
   105. Walt Davis Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:23 PM (#6086878)
My MLBtv feed gave me no replays so I have no idea if he went around or not.
   106. cardsfanboy Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:27 PM (#6086880)
Gameday doesn't know anything about superstition.
   107. NaOH Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:29 PM (#6086881)
Rockies and Pirates are on Apple TV tonight...


In case folks missed it, it was announced this week the Apple games will remain free through August. Gotta think at that point they'll complete the free season by doing the same come September.

My MLBtv feed gave me no replays so I have no idea if he went around or not.


Baseball Theater is a good friend for highlights.
   108. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:36 PM (#6086882)

In case folks missed it, it was announced this week the Apple games will remain free through August.


"Free" is beside the point. I tried to log in to Apple TV on a couple of devices, and was told that my password was wrong (I had an Apple ID a couple of decades ago when I used to use iTunes) and that I'd have to go somewhere else to do something else to regain my access to Apple. I figure I can watch tomorrow's game.
   109. Hombre Brotani Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:37 PM (#6086883)
I wish Kershaw would just give up a hit so I can stop watching this bullshit.
   110. cardsfanboy Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:42 PM (#6086884)

I wish Kershaw would just give up a hit so I can stop watching this bullshit.


I can't believe that the Dodgers bother to waste 8 runs for Kershaw....
   111. cardsfanboy Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:45 PM (#6086885)
Comeback happening... 7--3 right now, bases loaded no out Reds up to bat in top of the 9th.
   112. Hombre Brotani Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:47 PM (#6086887)
If Kershaw's gonna get strike calls that far off the plate, the perfecto's already in the bag.
   113. cardsfanboy Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:49 PM (#6086888)
Cardinal announcer trying to jinx Helsey.... "Last year Helsey came into the game with 43 runners on base, and allowed only 5 to score." (and yes from my basic research in the past that is a fantastic number, if I remember correctly average is 21% and it's one of the points for Hoffman who was significantly better than that.)
   114. cardsfanboy Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:50 PM (#6086889)
If Kershaw's gonna get strike calls that far off the plate, the perfecto's already in the bag.


That was just one call though, you see that happens deep in counts all the time.
   115. cardsfanboy Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:51 PM (#6086890)
Cardinals win, Helsey gets out of the inning.

I mentioned a few days ago about how Carlson's defense doesn't feel like -4 runs if you look at his recent week, and looking at it today his rDef is -2, not bad for a week worth of work.
   116. cardsfanboy Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:52 PM (#6086891)
Kershaw has completed 6 innings and has thrown 59 pitches.
   117. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 15, 2022 at 11:55 PM (#6086892)
German Marquez records his 60th career victory for the Rockies. Just four more wins to move into a tie for third all-time.
   118. Howie Menckel Posted: July 16, 2022 at 12:09 AM (#6086894)
21 up 21 down
   119. cardsfanboy Posted: July 16, 2022 at 12:10 AM (#6086895)
Are the Angels really this inept of a defensive team?
   120. cardsfanboy Posted: July 16, 2022 at 12:19 AM (#6086896)
no hitter and perfect game ended with one swing in the 8th inning.
   121. Hombre Brotani Posted: July 16, 2022 at 12:26 AM (#6086897)
Are the Angels really this inept of a defensive team?
3B Rendon is done for the year. Villar's been terrible in his short time there.
CF Ward's a positionless guy -- his glove plays nowhere, but they had him in RF -- who's only in CF because Nevin won't move Marsh even with Trout out.
RF Adell's a corner outfielder for obvious reasons. He really should be in left.
SS Regifo is replacing Velazquez, who's only there because Fletcher's hurt.
2B Stefanic's there because Duffy's hurt and no one can hit.
   122. Walt Davis Posted: July 16, 2022 at 01:02 AM (#6086898)
#121: In short, yes. :-)
   123. cardsfanboy Posted: July 16, 2022 at 03:58 PM (#6086935)
It feels nice to go into the all star break with a series against a not so great team, 7-1 Cardinals in the fourth inning.

First play in the fifth inning, Sosa is showing off the defense, needlessly fielding a slow grounder bare hander. (Brad Thompson is arguing that it was necessary)
   124. cardsfanboy Posted: July 16, 2022 at 04:08 PM (#6086936)
Senzel reaches on catchers interference, according to the Cardinal announcers this is his 7th of the year, 13th of his career, second among the Reds in their history behind 19 from Pete Rose. (I didn't check any of these 'facts' to verify they were correct -- and I don't even know how I would check that--event finder on stathead actually does list catchers interference and advanced stats do list it, apparently that is XI)
   125. cardsfanboy Posted: July 16, 2022 at 04:28 PM (#6086940)
That was horrible... Cardinal announcers are nice to the Reds "that is a play that with the Cardinals defense it gets caught" when it should have been "how in the #### is that not an out?" ... Mind you they aren't kind to O'Neil either. "I wish he was at second."

Play O'Neil hits a high pop up behind the spot where the second baseman is playing. It lands without being caught violating the Maddux rule about a ball being in the air that long should always be caught. Meanwhile O'Neil assumed it was going to be caught so basically walked to first base and stopped, with his speed he easily could have turned that into a double just by running at 2/3rds speed.
   126. cardsfanboy Posted: July 16, 2022 at 04:46 PM (#6086947)
That replay makes perfect sense, I dislike them calling players who beat a throw safe but then on replay are out because the hand/foot momentarily bounced off the bag. At the same time, I've hated the phantom play almost all my life, unless it's particularly close and a safety move, but that wasn't close. (play I'm talking about man on first and second, ball hit to first baseman, he throws to second to easily beat the runner, the fielder catches the ball and was pretty obviously off the bag when he caught it, but the ump gave him the out... replay overturned that)
   127. cardsfanboy Posted: July 16, 2022 at 04:49 PM (#6086948)
Reds defense is not impressing me at all... bases loaded no outs, infield playing in, (for some reason in a 7-1 game) ball hit to shortstop who for inexplicable reason decides he's going to throw out the lead runner, and of course the catcher whiffs on the throw and the run scores easily and the bases loaded no outs remains. The Reds have made at least 3 if not 4 bad defensive plays in this game, all could be classified as stupid, none having to do with actual MLB level skills.
   128. cardsfanboy Posted: July 16, 2022 at 05:09 PM (#6086953)
Cardinals defense is now not showing up.
   129. cardsfanboy Posted: July 16, 2022 at 05:11 PM (#6086954)
Edmundo Sosa looks like he seriously injured himself going into the wall chasing a foul ball. Ouch, looks like he might have done something "real" to himself. (looking left leg/ankle issue is part of the injury)


edit: Looks like it was just painful, but not injury, still had to leave the game out of caution.
   130. cardsfanboy Posted: July 16, 2022 at 05:25 PM (#6086956)
Nootbar with a 3 run blast to give the Cardinals an 11-3 lead. That ball looked like it was hammered. (426 towering fly) In this inning, Strickland has thrown 10 pitches and well, the results haven't been pretty (two singles, homerun and hbp) (4th hbp this game from the Reds)
   131. cardsfanboy Posted: July 16, 2022 at 05:29 PM (#6086958)
Cardinals hit a ball to centerfield, and whoever is playing center for the Reds looked like it's the first time in his career he ever caught a ball hit over his head. I mean it really did look like it was a catcher playing centerfield for the first time since he was 8. (Edit: Senzel)
   132. cardsfanboy Posted: July 16, 2022 at 05:35 PM (#6086961)
I'm fairly certain that was a message pitch there... one of the few times I do think an inside pitch was done intentionally to send a message. (This was by the Cardinals...) Didn't hit the batter, but came way to close to the head for comfort though, if you are going to send a message, just hit the batter in the buttocks.
   133. cardsfanboy Posted: July 16, 2022 at 05:48 PM (#6086966)
So just because, I'm rooting for a few things today and tomorrow, 1. Obviously Cardinal wins 2. Equally obvious Brewer losses 3. Less obvious, but a matter of pride is run differential for the Cardinals to pass the Braves (which sadly doesn't look likely before the all star break)

   134. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 16, 2022 at 05:56 PM (#6086968)
Rockies close out the Pirates 2-0 for their season-high fifth win in a row. Kris Bryant was 3-for-3 with a walk, pushing his season numbers up to .311/.377/.475. The Rox have a winning record, 18-14, when Bryant plays, but are just 25-35 when he doesn't.
   135. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 16, 2022 at 07:49 PM (#6086978)
Matt Carpenter, undoubtedly motivated by his All-Star snub, hammers a 3-run HR (#12) to RF to give the Yankees a 4-1 lead over the Red Sox after 1.

Carpenter now at .361/.471/.917, a 1.388 OPS, in pinstripes.
   136. TomH Posted: July 16, 2022 at 08:41 PM (#6086982)
even more amazing:
home game stats for Carpenter
29 AB / 11 hits / SEVEN home runs
slugging 1.172!
   137. TomH Posted: July 16, 2022 at 08:42 PM (#6086983)
cfb, you should be more worried the Cards record (and run differential) gets worse than the Phillies'
   138. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 16, 2022 at 08:48 PM (#6086984)
Aaron Judge gavels a HR (#32) to LF (401 feet) to put the Yankees up 5-1 in 5th.

EDIT: Red Sox dare not allow Pivetta to face Carpenter again, and bring in Darwinzon Hernandez with runners on 2nd & 3rd, 1 out. Developing.

EDIT II: ANOTHER 3-run HR (#13) to RF! 8-1.
   139. salvomania Posted: July 16, 2022 at 08:56 PM (#6086986)
Carpenter now has 13 homers and 30 rbi in 30 games as a Yankee.

Amazingly, he's only started 20 of those 30 games, so he only has 90 PA and 74 AB in those 30 games.
   140. Howie Menckel Posted: July 16, 2022 at 09:03 PM (#6086988)
Neil Best
@sportswatch
·
5m
ESPN needs to do a seven-part series on Matt Carpenter. #Yankees
   141. baxter Posted: July 16, 2022 at 09:10 PM (#6086990)
Is Carpenter's last name really Hobbs?
   142. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 16, 2022 at 09:19 PM (#6086992)
Judge gavels another HR (#33) to left-center (444 feet). 10-1. He will need to pick up the pace just a bit to eclipse the AL & team HR records, but it’s within the realm of possibility.
   143. baxter Posted: July 16, 2022 at 09:34 PM (#6086993)
142. He'll have to up his pace dramatically to keep with Carpenter, who if he gets enough AB's, will shatter all the records, paving his way to the HOF
   144. Walt Davis Posted: July 16, 2022 at 09:50 PM (#6086995)
Maybe it's just the Foster Brooks "beard" but Scherzer looks older than 37.

Speaking of old, I learned from the baseball internets ca 2001 that the ONLY way an old guy could have a season like Carpenter's was if he was ROIDED TO THE GILLS!!!! I know, some of you are gonna say this isn't like when, out of nowhere, some marginal slob like Barry Bonds cranked out 73 HR in 476 AB at age 36. Matt Carpenter is a certified TRUE HITTER.
   145. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: July 16, 2022 at 09:53 PM (#6086997)
Giants/Brewers 1-1 in the 8th, bases jacked and a balk is called, now 2-1 Giants. If anyone here can explain how that was a balk, I'd really appreciate it.
   146. Sleepy was just looking for porta potties Posted: July 16, 2022 at 10:33 PM (#6086999)
MLB’s unhelpful highlight of the balk is a guy in a white giants jersey clapping…
   147. Howie Menckel Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:13 PM (#6087001)
Mets Cubs 2-2, top 10.

the Manfred Man on 2nd for Mets is Nimmo - a savvy, aggressive baserunner.
speedy SMarte leads off.
rocket to Wisdom at 3rd, he keeps it in front of him like a goalie, as SNY's Ron Darling notes - but he can't hold on. so at this point your choices are:

- eat the ball, infield single. this is default mode.
- fake a throw to 1st, possibly lure Nimmo into a rundown. this is advanced mode.
- throw the ball to 1st, not close to getting Marte and letting Nimmo reach 3rd without a throw. this is Cubs mode.

as usual, they chose poorly - and Marte stole 2nd on the 2nd pitch.

in unrelated news, the Mets are 8-1 in extra innings and the Cubs are 3-10 (including the Mets Game 1 win).

so the Mets get 2 runs on 1 (infield) hit.

bases loaded, 2 out, 3-2 game, and Norris tries to pick daredevil - wait, Pete Alonso? - off second base and throws it into centerfield for the second run.

there are no words.
   148. yo la tengo (the poor man's Ron Darling) Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:14 PM (#6087002)
Is a hit by pitch with bases loaded an RBI for the batter?
   149. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:17 PM (#6087003)
Yes, just like a walk with the bases loaded is an RBI.
   150. yo la tengo (the poor man's Ron Darling) Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:26 PM (#6087005)
Somehow a walk seems a little more related to a batting skill while being plunked seems less like the batter accomplished something
   151. yo la tengo (the poor man's Ron Darling) Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:26 PM (#6087006)
Alonso and Lindor are piling up RBIs at this point. Far ahead of any other two teammates it seems
   152. Walt Davis Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:27 PM (#6087007)
So, I've seen many embarrassing Cub moments over the years but ...

in their second extra-inning game of the day, the Mets have pushed across the Manfred Man for a 3-2 lead and have the bases loaded with 2 outs and Escobar at the plate.

And the Cubs try to pick off the runner at second. This seems curious. There are two outs. Possibly the runner at second has an overly aggressive lead but his run doesn't matter a whole lot. Naturally, Daniel Norris throws it into CF. That was counter-productive but at least it only scores one.

Coke to Howie ... methinks my MLBtv feed is running late.
   153. Howie Menckel Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:27 PM (#6087008)
Somehow a walk seems a little more related to a batting skill while being plunked seems less like the batter accomplished something

honestly, in 50 years I have never heard that one before.

but maybe there is a silent majority - who knows?
   154. Walt Davis Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:35 PM (#6087011)
Somehow a walk seems a little more related to a batting skill while being plunked seems less like the batter accomplished something

Not if you lived through the first 125 years of major league baseball. :-) Certainly for my childhood, walks were considered purely the fault of the pitcher. Wild swingers like Manny Sanguillen were recognized as being outliers but otherwise, except when intentionally pitching around a tough batter (always a good thing!), walks were a pitcher's mistake. With the caveat that when Glenn Beckert fouled off the 7 of the first 10 pitches outside the zone then couldn't manage to pull the trigger on the 11th, in which case that was a great at-bat by Beckert.

But sure I think even the media of 1887 (or whoever cooked up the official scoring rules) realized that although run producers should always expand their zone with men on base, they could be allowed to take a walk with the bases loaded without having their manhood questioned and thus deserved an RBI. Equally, clearly a positive that the batter has instilled so much of TEH FEAR in the pitcher that he plunks him with the bases loaded.
   155. Walt Davis Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:36 PM (#6087012)
Forthunately the Mets are doing what they can to give this game back ... although Howie probably already knows the final score.
   156. Walt Davis Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:39 PM (#6087013)
And unsurprisingly, the Cubs ground into a DP.
   157. yo la tengo (the poor man's Ron Darling) Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:48 PM (#6087014)
In game one the Mets TV team were talking about which Cubs might be on the next good Cubs team and the radio guys had a similar conversation for the night game. It was not THAT long ago that they won the World Series and looked like they’d be good for some time. Kind of depressing to be a Cubs fan now I have to guess
   158. Walt Davis Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:50 PM (#6087015)
Anyway to summarize, prior to the year 2000 at the earliest:

1. A walk to a tough batter with men on base is a good thing, smart strategy.

2. A walk to Glenn Beckert on the 10th or greater pitch is a great AB, what can the pitcher do?

3. All other walks are purely because the pitcher screwed up, nothing to do with the batter's plate discipline.

4. Other than Manny Sanguillen, non-walks are never the result of a batter screwing up. And even Manny didn't screw up, he was just being aggressive (and Latin! I mean you can't walk off the island, amirite?) Batters only screw up when they strike out.

Manny, god love him, struck out only 6.2% of the time. He also struck out about 50% more often than he walked. Beckert K'd only 4.4% of the time but managed to squeeze out a few more walks than Ks.
   159. Howie Menckel Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:50 PM (#6087016)
another instance of the SNY booth laughing at the checkers-playing opposing managers.

Cubs down 4-3, 1st and 3rd, 1 out. Mets not that eager to pitch to Hoerner in this spot, but of course they won't voluntarily put the winning run on second.

Cubs steal second - problem solved. as booth noted, Mets send now-irrelevant Hoerner to first to load 'em up for "the weaker hitter in Schwindel."

now, there are plenty of circumstances where you'd not prefer to face Schwindel - such as 2 outs and down multiple runs but he's the tying or winning run at the plate. and..... this is not that spot.

gets dicey as count goes to 3-2, but Schwindel then bows to the SNY booth and hits into the game-ending DP.
   160. Walt Davis Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:52 PM (#6087018)
#157 -- not at all! We got all the depression out of the way at last year's trade deadline and that was already inevitable by then. I forget how the stages of grief go but I think we're at bargaining with God.
   161. Walt Davis Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:53 PM (#6087019)
Eduardo Escobar at the plate on the game-winning failed pickoff then turns the game-ending DP. Player of the game!
   162. yo la tengo (the poor man's Ron Darling) Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:55 PM (#6087020)
Walt - I forgot that stage of grief! Any chance that Contreras is still a Cub after trade deadline?
   163. Walt Davis Posted: July 16, 2022 at 11:58 PM (#6087022)
Possible next good Cub team members currently playing for the Cubs ... Stroman, Hoerner, Morel, Velazquez (23-yo OF), Keegan Thompson, Suzuki, maybe Happ. But probably at least one of Stroman or Thompson will ruin their arm and at least one of Morel, Velazquez, Suzuki will have flopped. But add Trout and Ohtani to that team and, with a little luck, we could win the NL Central so we're probably still smarter than the Angels.
   164. Walt Davis Posted: July 17, 2022 at 12:08 AM (#6087023)
I assume Contreras is gone. But then I was surprised he wasn't traded at the last deadline or this offseason or that some team hasn't jumped early to grab him. And I was surprised that the Cubs spent on Stroman and Suzuki this offseason. So I won't rule out that they'll sign him long-term but they're taking their sweet time about it. Possibly they just aren't getting offers they like.

Our top catching prospect was Miguel Amaya who was not much of a prospect anyway (around #100), has never hit a lot**, got hurt last year although I'm happy to see he's been playing some rehab games in AZ the last couple of weeks. So there's not much on the way ... still it seemed like they signed Yan Gomes for 2 years with the idea that Contreras would be gone but there'd still be a vet C around for the young pitchers and to tutor Amaya. Gomes still here next year and AAA vet PJ Higgins has hit really well so the Cubs might figure that's enough for next year, move Contreras and wait for Amaya mid-2023 or 2024.

** Last year in just 106 AA PAs, Amaya put up the bizarre line of 215/406/304 with 21 walks and 22 Ks.
   165. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 17, 2022 at 02:03 PM (#6087058)
Yankees literally knock Chris Sale out of the game, with an Aaron Hicks line drive RBI single off his finger that ricocheted into RF. Looks quite bent, so broken or dislocated? Yankees up 3-0, with 2 outs in 1st.

EDIT: Hirokazu Sawamura gets the 3rd out, but big blow to Boston if Sale’s out for the season.
   166. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2022 at 02:07 PM (#6087059)
Cardinals game postponed.
   167. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 17, 2022 at 02:33 PM (#6087064)
Sawamura's going to be in real trouble if there's a pitch clock next year. He's been averaging nearly half a minute between pitches with runners on base.
   168. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 17, 2022 at 02:40 PM (#6087066)
Dodgers & Angels, who played each other on Friday & Saturday, have a rare Sunday off day in one of those scheduling quirks that leaves me wondering if someone isn’t properly monitoring the computer that provides the optimum schedule.
   169. TomH Posted: July 17, 2022 at 03:03 PM (#6087068)
Yeah.. earlier, the Phillies had a scheduled day off on July 4. First time (except for strikes&COVID;) that happened since 1916.
   170. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2022 at 04:09 PM (#6087075)
This is now the second time in memory, that the Cardinals cancelled a game because of a forecast and not reality, when the forecast didn't really happen, some light rains, never had the thunderstorms they predicted, and at about an hour and half after the scheduled start time of the game, there is no chance of any weather.
   171. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 17, 2022 at 04:27 PM (#6087079)
It's now been confirmed:
Red Sox’ Chris Sale fractures finger after taking liner to pitching hand against Yankees

Chris Sale exited Sunday’s Red Sox-Yankees game in the top of the first inning after being struck in the left hand with a comebacker off the bat of Aaron Hicks.

Sale fell to the grass before immediately leaving the field, going underneath the tunnel and heading to the clubhouse. Sale’s pinky finger appeared out of place as he left the mound.

The team announced that Sale had suffered a left fifth finger fracture.

The liner registered at 106.7 miles per hour off the bat.

   172. NaOH Posted: July 17, 2022 at 04:28 PM (#6087080)
Yesterday,

Giants/Brewers 1-1 in the 8th, bases jacked and a balk is called, now 2-1 Giants. If anyone here can explain how that was a balk, I'd really appreciate it.


Just a bad call. Best guess I can come up with is that the ump didn't see his foot move off the rubber.
   173. cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE Posted: July 17, 2022 at 05:18 PM (#6087087)
We're at the All-Star Break so why didn't Buck use Diaz to start the 8th and the top of the Cubs order due up? (Sigh.)
   174. Walt Davis Posted: July 17, 2022 at 05:34 PM (#6087089)
Cubs win! Cubs win!

Is there no Sun night game tonight?
   175. Walt Davis Posted: July 17, 2022 at 05:36 PM (#6087091)
Trout bows out of ASG. On Sale, you don't need your pinky much in pitching, maybe he can return this season.
   176. Walt Davis Posted: July 17, 2022 at 05:40 PM (#6087093)
Padres C having a challenging PA. Watching the Padres-DBacks for about 3 pitches so far and Clevinger bounced the first one about 4 feet in front of the plate, off the C's chest for a WP. Next pitch is in the dirt, headed for the C's crotch but he snags it. Fourth pitch now almost hits the batter. A foul then a standard ball inside for a walk.
   177. Walt Davis Posted: July 17, 2022 at 05:54 PM (#6087095)
Anybody else watching this SD-ARI game? One of those moments where watching with the sound off (music) has left me terribly confused.

DBacks bases loaded. Clevinger uncorks another one in the dirt. Batter helps him out by swinging (well, couldn't check in time), pitch hits the dirt, appears to hit the batter's foot on a bounce, goes to the backstop, appeal to 3rd base on the swing as runners advance. 3B ump calls strike 2 ... and the runners are sent back to their bases? If the batter swings (making no contact) then the pitch hits him, is it a dead ball? If it hits him on a bounce, is it a dead ball? (I should know the answer to that.)
   178. cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE Posted: July 17, 2022 at 05:56 PM (#6087096)
Is there no Sun night game tonight?
The draft is on instead.
   179. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 17, 2022 at 06:07 PM (#6087097)
When a batter is hit by a pitch, then it's a dead ball. If the batter also swung at the pitch, it's a strike, too.
   180. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 17, 2022 at 07:12 PM (#6087100)
I suppose OmniChatter will have to do double duty & cover the Draft, too?
   181. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 17, 2022 at 07:26 PM (#6087104)
The Blue Jays eugenics-tainted player development approach seems to have caught on with other teams.
   182. cardsfanboy Posted: July 17, 2022 at 07:57 PM (#6087107)
I suppose OmniChatter will have to do double duty & cover the Draft, too?


There is a draft chat.
   183. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 17, 2022 at 09:02 PM (#6087129)
3. All other walks are purely because the pitcher screwed up, nothing to do with the batter's plate discipline.

Midcentury exceptions: Ted Williams, Mickey Mantle, Eddie Yost, Eddie Stanky, Ralph Kiner, Ferris Fain and Richie Ashburn were all credited with an exceptional ability to draw walks. Yost and Stanky were considered particularly gifted, since with their limited power and low BA pitchers had little fear by getting them to put the ball in play.
   184. Walt Davis Posted: July 17, 2022 at 09:06 PM (#6087130)
When a batter is hit by a pitch

But he wasn't "hit by the pitch" in the HBP sense, the pitch hit the ground and bounced into him. If a pitch hits the ground, hits the C then hits the batter, is it dead? If a wild throw from a fielder hits a runner, the ball's not dead. At what point does a pitch stop being a pitch and become a ball bouncing around the field hitting whatever is in its way?
   185. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 17, 2022 at 11:25 PM (#6087147)
Eddie Yost, Eddie Stanky,


How do you go on about the walking Eddies and not mention Eddie Joost? Dude had 6 straight years over 100 walks, granted that still made him just the third best walking Eddie of the 40's-50's.
   186. Howie Menckel Posted: July 18, 2022 at 12:22 AM (#6087149)
all-time BB single-season leaders are a fun list.

take Ferris Fain, with 136 BB in 1949 to boost him to a 103 OPS+.
a year later, 133 BB for a 116 OPS+.
maybe the scouting report came to "let's pitch to this bum" - and he lead the AL in AVG the next two seasons, lol.

or Roy Cullenbine, who drew 137 BB in 1947 at age 33 to boost him to a 125 OPS+ - just one year off a 175 OPS+ in 419 PA.

yet 1947 was his final season in the majors. career OPS+ of 132.

1929-30 Phila A's SS Max Bishop pulled off back-to-back 128 BB seasons with OPS+s of 83 and 109.
8 straight seasons of 100+ BB - and a career OPS+ of 103. nice work, if you can get it.
:)
   187. yo la tengo (the poor man's Ron Darling) Posted: July 18, 2022 at 06:46 AM (#6087159)
Howie- those walking stats make me think of my remark in #150. It does feel to me that drawing a walk is more in the batters control than being hit by pitch. I guess in some ways, with regard to RBI, it feels to me that the stat ought to reflect whose skill (whose fault? Whose lack of skill?) is more directly responsible for the run coming across. Not intending to relitigate, just trying to explain my original question/comment
   188. TomH Posted: July 18, 2022 at 08:29 AM (#6087162)
The Phillies technically hold the 3rd wild card spot at the ASB. By .001 WCPT.
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