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EDIT: Gleyber Torres hits his second HR of the inning, a 3-run shot. 14-2.
Even if they pitch around him.
That leaves Bogaerts.
Jays turn to closer Jordan Romano for 4 outs.
Schwarber lines it down to RF, ties the game.
Philly continues to fight!
Phillies break their 5 game losing streak, coming back from 3-0 down in the 8th.
That one was into the LF stands, but one of the more heartening developments over the past week or so has been Torres' ability to go to RF instead of pulling off the ball and trying to pull everything. Now if only Stanton can follow suit.
See this is what it's like being in the same division as the Cards. The Cards have now scored just 1 run in their last 39 innings. That's beyond atrocious but, because they're the Cards, that 1 run was enough to win a game.
The only thing Stanton is pulling is a hamstring!
Yes, ladies and gents, I'm available for weddings, parties, anything.
So Judge should break the old Ruth record inside of 154 games thereby appeasing every fan over the last 50 odd years who has not been satisfied with the HR record due to the "asterisk", PED's, Sosa's corked bat, etc. etc.
And as a Red Sox fan, I'm actually pulling for him to complete the triple crown also, that would be unreal.
Seems like Hader alone would occupy at least three spots above Helsley.
Helsley has amped up to 102-104 mph and I think people confuse speed with success
- one of the best ever of a Cardinal reliever
- one of the best ever of a Cardinal pitcher
- one of the best ever for any MLB reliever
?
I didn't listen to any of the game, so I don't know, but I would assume best of a Cardinal reliever. I mean Cardinal pitcher would be a stretch, Gibson, Tudor, Tewksbury, Carpenter, Dean, Flaherty, Waino etc... is a standard that is pretty high for a season.
Who is? A comment like that implies that there is a clear leader in the category... so just curious, the closest I could fine by doing a quick look is Evan Phillips, and it's half a dozen to one or the other.
Red Sox playing for pride! C'mon man, they aren't just going to give him batting practice stuff to hit. Trust me, with the Sox pen, Judge will get plenty of chances, their pen is dreadful.
Red Sox playing for pride! C'mon man, they aren't just going to give him batting practice stuff to hit. Trust me, with the Sox pen, Judge will get plenty of chances, their pen is dreadful.
I'm not saying throw meatballs. Give him your nastiest stuff in the zone. These games are meaningless, embrace the challenge.
3 for 4 tonight and he barreled up on that DP he hit into in the 4th. If they can get Benintendi and Porn Stache back for the postseason they might be able to do some damage, although that bullpen is downright scary in a bad way.
And therein lies the fault in your suggestion. The Red Sox pen does not have this combination. It's either nasty and way off the plate, or in the zone and entirely hittable. The pen stinks. So by definition, since the pen stinks, I figure Judge will get plenty of chances against the Sox.
Though I must say the first 4 pitches that Wacha threw to him were not even close. A good LL player would've taken those 4 pitches.
Makes the show far more interesting and if he succeeds, more meaningful
Plus lately Judge's strike zone judgement has been more like Ted Williams than the pre-2022 Aaron Judge.** That's not helping his record quest in the short run, but it's also why he's been so much more consistent over the course of the year. His league leading BA is proof of that.
** Which would be even more evident if the umpires stopped expanding the strike zone for him more than for any other player. This has been documented.
Who is? A comment like that implies that there is a clear leader in the category... so just curious, the closest I could fine by doing a quick look is Evan Phillips, and it's half a dozen to one or the other.
I'd take Edwin Diaz over either of Phillips or Helsley this season -- the ERA differences are marginal, and Diaz has actually allowed fewer runs (thanks to no UER) with a lot more Ks and a much lower FIP.
That pythag distinguishes this team from others to reach such rarefied heights. I've been looking around at great teams of the past, and all the ones I can find to win 110+ games out-performed their pythag -- even the 1927 Yankees, though only by one game. (The 1954 Indians outplayed their pythag by 10 wins!) Though it remains to be seen what happens in the playoffs, I think there's a pretty strong argument that this iteration of the Dodgers is the greatest team of all time. And they're doing it while dragging around a Cody Bellinger-shaped anvil in CF.
As I said, I don't think there is a clear difference, I should have included Diaz in my original list though. The advantage I have with Helsey and Phillips is that unlike Diaz, they come into games with runners on base a lot more often (22IR/5IS for Phillips, 21/3 for Helsey, 9/2 for Diaz) Fip goes to Diaz though, OPS goes to Phillips (.425, .451 Helsey, .459 Diaz-- but again close enough to not really declare a winner) (sadly my favorite stat for relief pitchers, component era, is not included on bb-ref) If I had to rate them, it goes Phillips, Helsey and Diaz, but I could see any order out there as being a legit ranking.
It's not entirely fair but I doubt it's some huge headwind to his productivity. Umps who have wildly inconsistent zones from Pitch to pitch are more deadly to one's productivity than the often called pitch just below the strike zone
The 2016 Cubs won 103 on a pythag of 107.
I'd say that is the case here. A "standard" knee-high strike is still being called a strike on Judge despite the fact that it's below his knees. Same pitch is a strike on Altuve. It's pretty weird to have a rule that tailors the strike zone to the individual batter -- Muggsy didn't get a 9-foot rim cuz he was short -- and doubly silly to think a human umpire is going to be able to make that adjustment properly.
Now if you can show that they do accurately adjust the zone for Altuve et al but not Judge and other tall guys ...
This year's Dodgers will likely win ~112 with a pythag of something like 116 or 117. There's a substantial difference. As far as I can tell, the only team that measures up to that is, as Tom pointed out above, the '39 Yankees.
It would be worth looking into, because it stands to reason that they would. Umpires are generally normal-sized men standing in a crouch -- close to, if not below, Altuve's zone. Giants like Judge (and Sexton, and Tony Clark, and Frank Howard) tower over them. There's not a good way to get a perspective on that kind of strike zone.
ok, I laughed.
meanwhile, huge battle being waged in media by fans re tonight's NYY Game/Judge 61 only airing on Apple TV in NYC market (and others????).
WFAN host in his 30s says, hey, it's free tonight (unlike Amazon Prime if you don't already have it) and with your smartphone and smartTV.....
Anthony from The Bronx (but no longer in The Bronx) calls up angry that his 83-year-old mother still in The Bronx can't see the game.
Maris hit 61, well, 61 years ago. so if you are old enough to remember that - well, tonight might be a challenge for you.
apparently ESPN/MLB will not be able to "cut in" for the Judge ABs, but that seems hard to believe.
did Bonds really hit HRs 61, 62, and 63 in same game?
I'm not quite sure that that means ("below Altuve's zone"). But also Altuve is only 5-6 and I'm not sure he's even that tall ... I don't know the average ump height but I'm guessing that puts him 5-7 inches shorter. Judge is 6-7 so call that 6-8 inches taller. I'm not sure Judge is any more challenging.
If the zone was constant for everybody (let's say knee to chest of an average height player) then the bottom of the zone would be above Altuve's knees but the top would be near his shoulder; for Judge obviously the bottom would be below his knees and the top around his waist. I don't imagine there are many pitchers who think throwing Judge a belt-high fastball is a particularly good idea so they'd have little choice but to work low in the zone.
I can believe that an ump in his crouch might call everything above his eye level as "high" but that should help Judge. It makes more sense to me that they'd have trouble calling an accurate high strike on Judge. If they adjusted their crouch to be high enough to call an accurate top of the zone, I can imagine they no longer have a sense of where the bottom of the zone is. So it may not be tall vs short per se but simply the size of an individual's zone and Judge's is so large they can either stay down to get an accurate view of the low pitcher or straighten up to get an accurate view of the high pitch. But I'm not sure why either would lead to calling strikes below Judge's knees.
Sox let a pop up fall in for a "hit" between 3 fielders. What f*ck up, that's LL stuff. OF needs to call off IF on that play.
Don't most Red Sox pitchers avoid this by putting runners on 1st and 2nd?
You could try thinking about it for a minute. It's not very complicated.
Agree, and if I thought of Fip as the most important stat for a reliever, it would matter, but for a reliever results matter. As I said, I think of component era as the most telling stat for reliever (although inherited runners and actions there also figure into it, add in wpa which Diaz does kick ass in, etc. )
Component era for the three (assuming the website I used to figure it out did it correctly, and basing it upon the numbers after yesterdays game, which Helsey allowed a homerun, and probably shouldn't be considered as part of this discussion since it started before that game)
Component era for Phillips .982, Helsey 1.089, Diaz 1.47.
Ultimately they are all close and I can't see any legit argument that clearly puts one ahead of the other.
2022
2015
2006
2000 (Subway Series)
1999
of course, in modern times this is usually the Mets' fault for not hitting this exacta - the lone exception in the last 30+ years is 2016 when the Yankees had a rare miss.
Guardians host Mariners; winner plays Yankees
Rays-Blue Jays play each other; winner plays Astros
NL much murkier, but
Cardinals host Phils or Padres (or maybe Brewers); winner plays East champ Mets or Braves
Mets/Braves loser host the other WC ; winner plays Dodgers
I have, I still don't know what you are trying to say. So you could try explaining what you mean.
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Hitters with 30 HR in a season: 1472
Pitchers with 200 strikeouts: 560
Players with both 30 HR & 200K: 1
Shohei. Ohtani.
(via @stathead/since 1920)
Well, three more RBIs with number 700!!!
3 more on that last homerun.
Just an amazing last season for him. Great stuff.
09.23... Jose Barrero went 0-for-4 and struck out twice Friday in the loss to the Brewers.
Spin: It's the fifth time in the last six games that Barrero has gone 0-for-4. The 24-year-old is sporting an incredible .403 OPS in 147 plate appearances for the Reds. The last player to get 150 plate appearances in a season and post a lower OPS was Leury Garcia in 2014, when he came in at .399 in 155 PA.
Judge: .31540
Bogaerts: .31358
Arraez: .31153
Abreu & Lowe may have time to get back into it, but they have to hurry, and probably get super-hot.
ATL 93-58 - trail by 2.5 games with 12/13 to play
Games 157-158-159 are in Atlanta vs Mets
winning division is huge, duh, but if Braves are on the brink and burn their top SPs.... although maybe the sked allows for that? haven't checked yet.
deGrom and Max for the Sat/Sun games in Oakland.
then off day, Carrasco-Walker in a 4th-SP postseason bakeoff on Tue-Wed home vs Marlins
then another day off, then Bassitt in Game 157 in ATL
if the ATL autopsy has yet to be approved, deGrom and Max FTW, I suspect
Anyway game day is having a rough time accurately depicting Dickerson’s apparently vicious 53 mph sliders…
There aren't many guys in the last generation who have good arguments to be put on the all-time MLB lineup. In fact, the other 2 both have the PED* stink.
He's done---He's said, multiple times, this is it and I don't see any reason why that's changed.
JoeD had just 12 in his last season. McGwire's first "season" was just 58 PA. Aaron doesn't qualify on either end; Bonds had 16 in just 484 PA in his roookie year so he was at least on that pace barely.
- 14 seasons of 100+ rbi, tied with ARod for the all time lead (Albert also had a 99, 95, and 93)
- 14 seasons of 30+ HR, tied with Bonds for the 3rd most ever (Aaron and ARod have 15)
- 18 seasons of 20+ homers, 3rd all time behind Aaron (20), and Bonds (19).
The thing that is obscured for non- Cardinal fans is the clutchiness of his second half hitting. Take last night. cards have been unable to score at all for a couple weeks it seems. Against the best team in baseball he puts the Cards up 5-0 and takes the pressure off. He's been doing that all season.
That's a valuable skill. I can see why they might want him back. On top of that he has filled up every stadium in second half so he's minting money for the Cards and others. Next year chasing 714 would be more of the same.
Keith Hernandez apparently is also on the IL after a fall in NYC
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