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Monday, September 19, 2022

OMNICHATTER for the week of September 19-26, 2022

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courtesy of Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee).

Hombre Brotani Posted: September 19, 2022 at 02:59 AM | 238 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   201. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: September 25, 2022 at 10:33 AM (#6097874)
AL Batting Average through Saturday games (rounded to 5 decimal places):

Xander: .31499
Judge: .31365
Arraez: .31298
   202. The Duke Posted: September 25, 2022 at 01:03 PM (#6097876)
Mattingly out

Been a frightfully long list of managerial firings in the last twelve months. Matheny and LaRussa likes to come. Wouldn't be surprised to see one of the reds, pirates, cubs managers go. Kapler may be at risk. Nobody gets much time anymore. Shildt had a 20 game win streak and playoff appearance and got fired so no one is safe
   203. Walt Davis Posted: September 25, 2022 at 02:10 PM (#6097877)
Firing Ross wouldn't shock me but I think the Cubs are content with him. He's handled the staff well, found playing time for everybody, we never heard any grumbling from Heyward or Villar or Contreras or other potentially frustrated vets. The "big" prospects probably won't start arriving until mid-2023 so even if they don't think he's the right guy for that role, no need to replace him until 2024.
   204. sanny manguillen Posted: September 25, 2022 at 02:29 PM (#6097879)
Wouldn't be surprised to see one of the reds, pirates, cubs managers go


Ben Cherington said about a month ago that Derek Shelton will return for Pittsburgh.
   205. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 25, 2022 at 03:20 PM (#6097880)
Joey Meneses, the 30-year old rookie on his 4th MLB organization who was called up by the Nationals after Soto & Bell were traded, hit a 2-run 1st-inning HR (#12) against the Marlins today. He’s only going to get ~ 225 AB this season, but he’s now hitting .330/.364/.589, which would be a big deal if the Nationals were anywhere close to contending (they’re not). He’s shown enough, IMHO, to get first crack at the 2023 1st base job. A lack of better options should help him, too. Now 3-0 in 5th.
   206. HBO disappeared Oscar Posted: September 25, 2022 at 03:43 PM (#6097881)
Cincinnati relatives went to multiple games of the Brewers series this weekend and on one of the Instagram posts mentioned the concession stands shutting down early with laugh emojis. So I texted my cousin on what that meant and he said that the Reds are kind of known for letting stuff run out the last week or so to avoid having leftovers. So you can always get beer. But he said by yesterday some of the stands didn't have some of the sausages listed. Oh, and most of the nacho stands were closed and the ones open were light on chips. So you got a lot of salsa and cheese but no way to eat.

Is this common? Never had that experience at Brewer or Giant games. Edit: Meaning end of season.
   207. HBO disappeared Oscar Posted: September 25, 2022 at 03:46 PM (#6097882)
He also said that the Reds listed last night as a big promotion night and when you went through the gate you received a letter sized photo of the team. That was the big handout.

   208. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 25, 2022 at 03:48 PM (#6097883)
The Phillies take the lead in the bottom of the fifth. The heavens open up and the umps have to call a rain delay with 2 outs, 2-2 count.

The Phillies announcers say it’s not an official game. But isn’t it? What’s the difference between taking the lead in the bottom of the fifth and a 4 1/2 inning game when the home team is ahead?

Then again the team of Tom McCarthy, John Kruk and Mike Schmidt would not be my go to team for rule book interpretations.
   209. HBO disappeared Oscar Posted: September 25, 2022 at 03:57 PM (#6097884)
Home plate ump today in Brewers/ Reds game just really bad calling stuff well off the plate for strikes. Doing it for both sides. But just so obvious the pitchers are not strikes.
   210. HBO disappeared Oscar Posted: September 25, 2022 at 04:16 PM (#6097885)
Spencer Steer homers off Matt Bush to give Reds 2-1 lead
   211. The Duke Posted: September 25, 2022 at 04:37 PM (#6097886)
Cardinals continuing to rely on kindness of strangers to win division. Already down an insurmountable amount in the first inning against Dodgers but MIL loses to crappy Cincinnati. If Mil had been able to mount any credible run it would be neck and neck but instead are sinking to barely above .500 in the second half.
   212. HBO disappeared Oscar Posted: September 25, 2022 at 04:56 PM (#6097887)
FWIW Milwaukee record at ASG was 50-43 a .538 winning pct. After today team 32-28 since ASG which is .533

Brewers did lose a shitton of games against Pirates and Cubs earlier in second half. But taking 3 of 4 from Reds on road is a solid weekend
   213. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 25, 2022 at 04:57 PM (#6097888)
So you can always get beer.
At Nationals Park, quite a few of the concessions have replaced their draft beer options with 25 oz. cans. It was more pronounced during the pandemic, when crowds were limited and some concessions didn’t even open. I figure it was easier to supply & store cans for small crowds, but some appear to be still sticking with the cans. Is this a trend elsewhere?
   214. HBO disappeared Oscar Posted: September 25, 2022 at 05:12 PM (#6097889)
213: Miller park (it's only name) always served the huge cans because Wisconsin
   215. The Duke Posted: September 25, 2022 at 05:14 PM (#6097891)
Atlanta sells a lot of cans and it's infuriating that they pop the top before giving it to you. You'd think with all the pandemic precautions, having someone stick a dirty finger in your beer would be frowned upon. And none of the vendors will not do it. "It's the law".

I found one guy in my section who agreed on a monetary accommodation to give me a can without popping my top, but we had to do with James Bond stealth because he didn't want to get caught.
   216. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: September 25, 2022 at 05:28 PM (#6097893)
Unpopped, a beer can is a pipe bomb. If you toss it onto the field, you can kill a player.
   217. Howie Menckel Posted: September 25, 2022 at 05:37 PM (#6097894)
Unpopped, a beer can is a pipe bomb. If you toss it onto the field, you can kill a player.

yes, a vendor can - and should - be fired for turning over an unopened beer can. I can't imagine any stadium operator being so stupid as to allow for the sale of unopened beer. and it's not just for the safety of the players. more likely is that the angry drunk who just lost 100 bucks on the Under or whatever makes a feeble throw that inside smacks into the back of the head of a fan seated closer to the field.

meanwhile, Mets single-season RBI leaders

1. PETE ALONSO 125 2022 - and counting!

2. Mike Piazza 124 1999
2. David Wright 124 2008

4. PETE ALONSO 120 2019
4. Robin Ventura 120 1999

6. Howard Johnson 117 1991
6. Bernard Gilkey 117 1996

8. David Wright 116 2006
8. Carlos Beltran 116 2006

10. Carlos Delgado 115 2008
   218. The Duke Posted: September 25, 2022 at 05:40 PM (#6097895)
If that's truly their concern, then they shouldn't sell cans at all. Getting hit in the head with a 7/8 full can hurts just as much.
   219. The Duke Posted: September 25, 2022 at 05:43 PM (#6097896)
Watching the Dodgers Gavin Lux give his best imitation of Steve Sax today. Bobbles a hard hit ball to his left and instead of just accepting that the play is over, he picks up the ball and makes a terrible off balance throw that hits the runner about 2 steps past first base who kicks it into the RF corner and ends up at third base. Best part of the play is Freddie Freeman standing flat footed watching Lux make a terrible throw with one of those "what the hell are you doing" looks.
   220. Howie Menckel Posted: September 25, 2022 at 05:51 PM (#6097897)
If that's truly their concern, then they shouldn't sell cans at all. Getting hit in the head with a 7/8 full can hurts just as much.

yeah, no. and it's not even close.

if you toss an open can, it spills all over the place before it pretty much harmlessly glances against the back of someone's head or shoulder. that's annoying for quite a few soggy fans, but the damage is widely spread.
   221. The Duke Posted: September 25, 2022 at 06:22 PM (#6097898)
Wel, then you've never been hit by one. Let me assure you they hurt just as much. I had the pleasure of watching the wild card game where the umps called an infield fly which gave the cardinals the win. Beer cans flying everywhere and by law , they were all open, it was like a battlefield in the lower deck with all the people bleeding from head wounds. All those cans were open. Centrifugal force will keep most of that beer in.

I never liked drafts because I think teams water them down, so I buy cans but if I were running the place i would only sell in plastic cups

Of course the world is a miserable place now. The cardinals used to do bat and ball days for years for kids but that's no longer done. I still have a real wooden bat i got as a giveaway. Those were the days

   222. Howie Menckel Posted: September 25, 2022 at 06:31 PM (#6097899)
those must have been some pitiful tosses.

if you get decent height on your toss, the beer eventually does spill out. but if you hit someone 10 or 15 feet in front of you, yes, that will do some damage. was that situation reported in the media at the time?

in other news, Alonso with 3 more RBI, now has 128.
and he's the only active player on his team who has his franchise's HR and RBI marks (Stanton has Miami's, but.....)
   223. The Duke Posted: September 25, 2022 at 06:47 PM (#6097900)
They were All cans fired from the upper deck. No one but Tom Brady would have a hope of firing one over the infield seats to the field - completely reckless behavior. They carted off a guy a few rows in front of me. What amazed me was the number of beer cans. Thousands and thousands.
   224. The Duke Posted: September 25, 2022 at 06:50 PM (#6097901)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/braves/2012/10/05/braves-cardinals-playoff-infield-fly-rule-trash-turner-field/1616359/

Link to article on the beer cans. There still some great pics floating around showing the enormous volume of cans
   225. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 25, 2022 at 07:21 PM (#6097903)
Aaron Judge leads off with a ‘mildly disappointing double’, as only he can do.
   226. Howie Menckel Posted: September 25, 2022 at 07:31 PM (#6097904)
thanks for the link.

I think the "modern cans" are different both in terms of weight of the can and the width of the spout. might be precisely because of that scenario.

Mets and Braves both win.

STL BYE UPDATE:
if Cards win out, they get to 97-65.
if Mets lose out, they get to 97-65.
of course, in that scenario, Braves have to sweep Mets, giving them at least 98 wins.
so it's ...... not looking great.

;)

   227. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: September 25, 2022 at 07:36 PM (#6097905)
Aaron Judge leads off with a ‘mildly disappointing double’, as only he can do.

If I'm not screwing anything up, as of that double (Bogaerts walked in his only PA so far and Arraez didn't play today):

Xander: .31499
Judge: .31492
Arraez: .31298

Something I should know but don't: how many decimal points do they go to to determine the batting average champ?
   228. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: September 25, 2022 at 07:37 PM (#6097906)
Cans have a LOT LESS metal in them now. It reduces manufacturing costs, demonstrates environmental concern, and keeps shipping weight down.
   229. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: September 25, 2022 at 07:48 PM (#6097909)
ESPN is interviewing a fielder while the ball is in play! Nutso.
   230. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 25, 2022 at 07:57 PM (#6097910)
Something I should know but don't: how many decimal points do they go to to determine the batting average champ?
I believe it’s as far as needed, making a tie unlikely.
   231. sanny manguillen Posted: September 25, 2022 at 08:00 PM (#6097911)
Pirates successfully claim Miguel Andujar on waivers.
   232. Booey Posted: September 25, 2022 at 08:23 PM (#6097912)
#230 - That is correct. There's never been a tie for the batting title because the only way for that to happen would be if both players had the exact same amount of hits in the exact same amount of at bats.
   233. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 25, 2022 at 08:27 PM (#6097913)
Atlanta sells a lot of cans and it's infuriating that they pop the top before giving it to you. You'd think with all the pandemic precautions, having someone stick a dirty finger in your beer would be frowned upon.
Um…that’s not how opening a can works.
   234. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: September 25, 2022 at 08:44 PM (#6097914)
Do you think there's a noticeable lack of toilet flushing in NYC when Judge is up? My non-Yankee-fan coworker will not go to the bathroom with 99 up.
   235. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: September 25, 2022 at 09:16 PM (#6097916)
Even before Refsnyder clanked that fly, I was going to post that baseball should not be played in this kind of rain.
   236. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: September 25, 2022 at 09:23 PM (#6097917)
I think that it's not really debatable that without Judge here tonight, they shut the game down earlier, and would be willing to call it sooner (if necessary).
   237. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 25, 2022 at 09:30 PM (#6097918)
They probably could have gotten the full game in if Bello would have thrown the g***amn ball in a reasonable time.
   238. Howie Menckel Posted: September 25, 2022 at 09:56 PM (#6097920)
congrats to the Guardians, the first team to be the youngest in MLB and also reach the playoffs since the 1986 Mets, per Elias.

the others to do so:
1970 Reds (lost WS)
1950 Phillies (lost WS)
1949 Dodgers (lost WS)
1947 Dodgers (lost WS)
1944 Cardinals (won WS)
1943 Cardinals (lost WS)

so pre-1969 and divisional play, 5 young teams went directly into the WS - and all of them lost except for the one that lost in the WS the year before. experience counts?

the 1970 Reds won a series and the 1986 Mets won two (incredible) series.
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