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Thursday, June 23, 2022

OMNICHATTER for Thursday, June 23, 2022

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Hombre Brotani Posted: June 23, 2022 at 05:25 AM | 44 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 23, 2022 at 01:54 PM (#6083435)
Beautiful day for my first time at Miller Park.
   2. salvomania Posted: June 23, 2022 at 02:00 PM (#6083437)
Roof open, I assume.
   3. salvomania Posted: June 23, 2022 at 02:03 PM (#6083438)
I thought I was there just a few years ago, but man how time flies: I remember Jim Edmonds homering---as a Brewer---which means it was 2010.
   4. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 23, 2022 at 02:52 PM (#6083456)
Roof open!
   5. salvomania Posted: June 23, 2022 at 03:04 PM (#6083462)
According to Gameday, Dakota Hudson has no idea where any of his pitches are going.
   6. Tom Nawrocki Posted: June 23, 2022 at 03:14 PM (#6083464)
Don Mattingly just tried to bring in a new pitcher for the eighth inning - only to realize he had forgotten to warm anybody up. He eventually brought in a guy named Steven Okert, but the umpires only let him have the customary eight warmup pitches when he took the mound (at least I think that's what happened, as I was listening on the radio). To be fair to Mattingly, I'd have a hard time paying attention to Marlins games, too.
   7. Mike A Posted: June 23, 2022 at 03:36 PM (#6083468)
It's not often I feel sorry for people at baseball games, but the ATL weather is brutal today. Not a good time for an afternoon game.

Anyways, Braves hold on for the win to go 18-3 in June.
   8. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 23, 2022 at 03:46 PM (#6083470)
Salvo, we’re behind the 1B dugout so I don’t have a great view, but he doesn’t look sharp. I’m surprised he came out in the 5th

I’m glad I checked shadedseats.com — it would be too hot for me in the sun.
   9. The Duke Posted: June 23, 2022 at 04:11 PM (#6083478)
Brewers announcers get mad at cardinal LF for being unable to judge fly balls because it made them look bad and miss a HR call. "Pop up to Lf, well it's got some carry, yepez is going back, at the wall......it's over the wall? Over by quite a bit "

When same batter comes up announcer says, "if he hits a fly ball, I'm not looking at yepez. He was camped under the last one and it went out"
   10. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 23, 2022 at 05:10 PM (#6083485)
Twins beat the Guardians (née Indians) 1-0 today, which ties the 2 teams for the AL Central lead, although Cleveland has a healthy 6 games in hand. Could be a season long battle there, with 2nd place being just inside or outside the Wildcard depending on developments in the AL East, which might be fun to observe.
   11. I don't want to talk about Rocco Posted: June 23, 2022 at 06:11 PM (#6083503)
That was probably Jeff Levering complaining. The Brewers like him but don’t see or hear many good things from fans. I find him a bit annoying mostly because he’s not funny but thinks he’s funny.
   12. Bret Sabermatrician Posted: June 23, 2022 at 06:19 PM (#6083504)
I havent researched it too deeply, but I feel like Dansby would be the most attractive MVP if he were to somehow win.
   13. Hombre Brotani Posted: June 23, 2022 at 06:23 PM (#6083506)
Oof. AJ Puk comes in with two on and two out to try and close a 1-0 game for Oakland. Two wild pitches later, it's 2-1 Seattle. Four walks in the ninth by Jackson and Puk.
   14. Walt Davis Posted: June 23, 2022 at 06:30 PM (#6083508)
For their most recent turn through the rotation, Cub starters have 22.1 IP and 25 R ... despite Keegan Thompson's fine 6 IP, 1 R effort. You may recall that just over a week ago, the Cub bullpen was finishing off its surely historic 19 IP, 39 R streak.

Through the end of May, the Cubs were giving up 4.55 R/G. In June, they've been giving up ... wait for it ... 7.33 R/G. Pitching coach Tommy Hottovy probably won't last past the AS break although I doubt any of it is his fault.

Amazingly, the Nats are at 5.62 on the year; Rox 5.51, Reds 5.40 then Cubs 5.35.
   15. Walt Davis Posted: June 23, 2022 at 06:33 PM (#6083509)
I havent researched it too deeply, but I feel like Dansby would be the most attractive MVP if he were to somehow win.

Not my area of expertise but LL Joe D (presumably some ML Joe D too but such things weren't mentioned in those days).
   16. Hombre Brotani Posted: June 23, 2022 at 06:35 PM (#6083510)
Aaaaand the A's lose. Sewald gets Seth Brown looking at a called strike three low and away very outside the strike zone, Brown gets ejected after the game. What a nightmare 9th for the A's.
   17. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 23, 2022 at 07:30 PM (#6083521)
Taillon gives up a 3-run HR to the Astros Bregman in the top of 1st, but Stanton answers for the Yankees with the same in the bottom after LeMahieu BB & Judge single.
   18. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: June 23, 2022 at 08:13 PM (#6083530)
And Alvarez adds another 3 run homer, 'Stros up 6-3
   19. Walt Davis Posted: June 23, 2022 at 08:21 PM (#6083534)
Hmmm ... the Nasty Nestor t-shirt giveaway looks like a very cheap t-shirt even in 2 dimensions from halfway across the world.
   20. Walt Davis Posted: June 23, 2022 at 08:29 PM (#6083537)
Just saw the replay of the Alvarez HR ... that was an unusually hit ball. Low end of the zone (maybe low) but he hit it on a line ... just barely over the RF wall. More like a wicked top-spin tennis shot (that travelled 350 feet).
   21. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 23, 2022 at 08:58 PM (#6083552)
Duke, I was surprised when Adames HR reached the wall, much less cleared it. It just didn’t look that well struck off the bat.

But to blame their bad call on the LF is pretty bad.
   22. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: June 23, 2022 at 09:04 PM (#6083555)
Rizzo just worked a 16 pitch BB, very impressive stuff.
   23. Walt Davis Posted: June 23, 2022 at 09:34 PM (#6083583)
Yep Rizzo does that now and again. MLBtv has a highlight of him hitting a HR on I think the 14th pitch in the last couple of years. You see those PAs and you think either he must have a lower K-rate than his already good 16% or at least he should be hitting 300. But he's never hit 300 and while he walks a fair bit, he's made it over a 400 OBP just once. His 280 BABIP suggests a lot of that extra contact is pretty weak. Having a sprint speed not much above your average Molina doesn't help the BA either.

Rizzo v Hosmer (rough contemporaries)

AR 267/367/482, 128 OPS+, 22 Rbat/650, +7 Rfield/650, 15.8% K, 11.0% BB, 280 BABIP, 4.0 WAR/650
EH 277/336/430, 108 OPS+, 6 Rbat/650, -2 Rfield/650, 17.7% K, 8.1% BB, 315 BABIP, 1.8 WAR/650

In a lot of ways, Rizzo is the player many in baseball (esp the Padres) seemed to think Hosmer was. The walks are a big difference but also the G/F ratios. Rizzo's at 0.66 while Hosmer is at 1.23. In the statcast era, Hosmer has a very healthy 90.6 avg EV (Rizzo 89.4) but too many of those hard hits are going into the ground, not the air. Don't be too shocked if Hosmer pulls a Matt Carpenter near the end of his career.

EDIT: And FWIW, b-r puts the career earnings at Rizzo $87 with another $16 coming vs Hosmer $136 with another $39 coming. Quite the bargain the Cubs got and the Yanks aren't complaining either.
   24. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: June 23, 2022 at 09:40 PM (#6083584)
Hosmer has a very healthy 90.6 avg EV (Rizzo 89.4) but too many of those hard hits are going into the ground


Old dog/new tricks and all of that, but with that EV rate and a K rate under 20% and a reasonable contact rate, you'd think someone would have pulled him aside a few years back and said, hey you might want to try to hit in the air more often 'cause you're hitting it hard enough.
   25. Walt Davis Posted: June 23, 2022 at 10:04 PM (#6083602)
Javy Baez

Apr (11 g) 296/326/500 -- Javy at his best
May (28 g) 159/202/230 -- Even Javy's probably never been that bad that long
Jun (17 g) 262/313/525 -- classic Javy

It hasn't really been the K-rate either -- a bit under 25% in Apr, 25% in May (good for Javy) and close to 20% in June. He had a 207 BABIP in May. His only positive that month was 3 ROE and 2 HBP. His sOPS+ (him v league) was 142 in Apr, 22 in May, 127 in June. 28 games of Jeckyll and 28 games of Hyde add up to ... sucks! Anyway, I'm hoping he's fixed.
   26. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: June 23, 2022 at 10:12 PM (#6083608)
OMG, NY is like that demon you think you kill and it just keeps coming back!
   27. Walt Davis Posted: June 23, 2022 at 10:13 PM (#6083609)
Yep, the Yanks are starting to look like a pretty good team
   28. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 23, 2022 at 10:14 PM (#6083610)
Down 6-3 in 9th, Yankees tie it up on Aaron Hicks 3-run HR. Crowd quite appreciative.
   29. Walt Davis Posted: June 23, 2022 at 10:19 PM (#6083618)
Tie goes to the umpire's decision.
   30. Walt Davis Posted: June 23, 2022 at 10:20 PM (#6083620)
Language, language, Mr Boone.
   31. Walt Davis Posted: June 23, 2022 at 10:31 PM (#6083625)
Huh, just me, Hugh and YC ... seems like the rest of the Yankee contingent thought this was an unwatchable Angels game.
   32. Walt Davis Posted: June 23, 2022 at 10:33 PM (#6083628)
I'm going out on a limb and even without looking it up will suggest that walking the batter before Aaron Judge with 2 outs, tied, b9 was not the intended outcome.
   33. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 23, 2022 at 10:34 PM (#6083631)
Judge RBI single gives the Yankees the 7-6 win in a lengthy & eventful bottom of the 9th.
   34. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: June 23, 2022 at 10:41 PM (#6083636)
Wow NY, just wow. They are definitely looking the goods at this stage. I'm just hoping the Red Sox can pull into the 1st WC slot, host a few games and then get super lucky for the rest of it...

AND I see the game ended at a presumably Andy friendly time of 10:30PM---or did he fall asleep on the couch?
   35. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 23, 2022 at 10:49 PM (#6083645)
Nah, I watched the whole thing and posted the Hicks dinger and the Judge walkoff on discord. But here they are:

Hicks ties it....

...and Judge wins it.

And in between, Gallo naturally struck out. But this was their 9th walkoff win of the year and their 15th straight win at the Stadium.
   36. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 23, 2022 at 10:54 PM (#6083647)
With tonight’s win, the Yankees are 52-18 (.743 winning percentage) a game ahead of the pace of their fabled 1998 squad, who were 51-19 through 70 games.
   37. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 23, 2022 at 10:58 PM (#6083649)
On the MLB version tonight they listed the Yankees' top 6 starts after 69 games. It showed that the other 5 teams (1927-28-32-39-98) all won the World Series, but what it didn't note was that all 5 of those World Series wins were sweeps.
   38. Howie Menckel Posted: June 23, 2022 at 11:07 PM (#6083651)
On the MLB version tonight they listed the Yankees' top 6 starts after 69 games. It showed that the other 5 teams (1927-28-32-39-98) all won the World Series, but what it didn't note was that all 5 of those World Series wins were sweeps.

hence no high expectations from Yankees fans come October after 13 years of wandering in the desert (or 22, absent a juiced A-Rod. or.... well, you know)

what could go wrong?
   39. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 23, 2022 at 11:32 PM (#6083657)
That'd be baseball, Suzyn. But they'll probably win a Series before Ohtani gets to play in the postseason.
   40. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 24, 2022 at 09:52 AM (#6083686)
absent a juiced A-Rod

Not to forget Melky, Cano and Pettitte.
   41. Astroenteritis Posted: June 24, 2022 at 10:36 AM (#6083693)
The Astros have already met my predicted two wins in their 9-game stretch vs. the Mets and Yankees. Six more losses in a row and 2-7 it will be.

I'm this close (holding thumb and forefinger a fraction of an inch apart) to, "How will the Astros lose today and make me want to extract my internal organs out of my nostril?"

And, yes, I know I have nothing to complain about in the greater baseball universe; things are good. It's just...baseball. Nice win for the Yankees, though.
   42. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 24, 2022 at 11:40 AM (#6083702)
Anyone who has Justin Verlander as his starting pitcher today shouldn't have too much to worry about, but that league-leading bullpen is another story.
   43. Astroenteritis Posted: June 24, 2022 at 01:24 PM (#6083719)
I expect the Yankees to hit at least a couple of homers off Verlander. He can't possibly maintain his current pace, and a flyball pitcher against the Yanks in that park is trouble waiting to happen. Plus, the Astros are always a threat to simply not hit the baseball at all on any given day; they are actually due for a dead offensive day.
   44. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 24, 2022 at 05:17 PM (#6083747)
So it's a reversion to mean pitcher against a reversion to mean team?

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