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1. The Duke Posted: May 10, 2022 at 04:29 PM (#6076100)

Cardinals optioned Paul Dejong to AAA. We may never see him again. He has gone from a 5 WAR player, ultimate Mets killer, to all-glove, no bat profile. He has been lost for three years but the Cards have to pay him this year and next.

As I understand it they got him down to AAA days before they could no longer do that given his service time. He's now in baseball purgatory. Can't bring him up or we lose him, so he'll only be up in some kind of serious emergency. He'll be stuck in AAA now for 2 years. Save your money, Paul.

Devil Magic wears off fast.

2. The Duke Posted: May 10, 2022 at 05:10 PM (#6076111)

Brandon Donovan takes SS for Cards tonight cards PR says the following:

Brendan Donovan is the first player in MLB since at least 1900 to make his first four career starts at the four different infield positions

Well it's not much but you can tell your grandchildren that two guys played in 2100 games straight but only one guy played his first four games at different positions.

3. Walt Davis Posted: May 10, 2022 at 05:17 PM (#6076113)

Set your Edman clocks for 2024.

4. BDC

Posted: May 10, 2022 at 05:18 PM (#6076114)

Heading out to see the Royals play the Rangers tonight … I consulted my memory to see if I knew any of the Royals' players. Salvador Perez, of course, and Zack Greinke (and no, I didn't think they still had Greinke from 12 years ago, I knew they'd re-acquired him).

Greinke is not pitching tonight, but Perez will catch and there are a few other veterans I have at least seen before (Whit Merrifield, Hunter Dozier, Andrew Benintendi), and I know about Bobby Witt Jr. That's actually a pretty good haul for me, I tend to know no visitors these days except from the AL West. Perez, Merrifield, & Dozier were in the lineup when I saw the Rangers play in Kansas City four years ago; the Rangers have completely turned their roster over since.

And despite or because of all these known quantities, the Royals are off to a terrible start, even worse than the Rangers.

5. salvomania Posted: May 10, 2022 at 05:58 PM (#6076121)

Brandon Donovan takes SS for Cards tonight cards PR says the following:

I'm surprised they don't see how Edman fares at SS; he's played it decently in the past, although he is Gold Glove caliber---both in metrics and in the eye test---at second base, his current position.

But if Edman can handle SS, how long do the Cardinals wait before they bring uo masher Nolan Gorman to play 2B?

6. BDC

Posted: May 10, 2022 at 06:35 PM (#6076125)

Rangers' catcher Jonah Heim, who in March was lucky to be in $&@€ baseball, is batting .341 and hitting cleanup today.

7. The Duke Posted: May 10, 2022 at 07:58 PM (#6076132)

Gorman won't be up until Sosa proves he can't do it. And I think he will do it. Gorman is a pale imitation of Joey Gallo IMO. He needs a lot more work (and he's very young). He's also not on the 40 man so they don't want to do that until they have to.

This is a bit of a transition year with Waino, Molina and Pujols leaving. Next year is a better time for him.

8. BDC

Posted: May 10, 2022 at 08:24 PM (#6076136)

All three games I've been to this year, Corey Seager has hit a home run.

9. GregD Posted: May 10, 2022 at 08:42 PM (#6076141)

Rangers' catcher Jonah Heim, who in March was lucky to be in $&@€ baseball, is batting .341 and hitting cleanup today.

This makes me happy. Saw him in spring training when the As were going through the motions of deciding which of their young catchers was going to get the nod, while obviously having (rightfully) decided on Sean Murphy. The As made the right call, but Heim was a likable player, and I feared he'd slip through the cracks. A decent year can keep a marginal catcher employed for a decade.

10. The Duke Posted: May 10, 2022 at 08:47 PM (#6076142)

Orioles beating up on some Boston gangster named Packy Naughton. New manager doesn't understand concept of a bullpen game and left Packy in far too long.

11. BDC

Posted: May 10, 2022 at 08:56 PM (#6076143)

Second HR tonight ... This Seager guy doesn't know it, but I'm keeping him in the lineup with my attendance.

12. salvomania Posted: May 10, 2022 at 09:12 PM (#6076146)

New manager doesn't understand concept of a bullpen game and left Packy in far too long.

Won't matter since it looks like the Cardinals are going to be shut out.

13. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

Posted: May 10, 2022 at 09:27 PM (#6076148)

How games can turn on a dime: Going into the last of the 6th at Yankee Stadium, The Blue Jays' Kikuchi was coasting with a no-hitter and a 3-0 lead. Then double, single, lineout, Garcia replaces Kikuchi, home run, hit batter, Garcia ejected, manager and pitching coach ejected, and after two boring hours we've finally got a ballgame!

14. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 10, 2022 at 09:29 PM (#6076149)

All three games I've been to this year, Corey Seager has hit a home run.

Sign-stealing, no doubt. Where’s Manfred?

15. The_Ex Posted: May 10, 2022 at 09:45 PM (#6076151)

Garcia hits Donaldson - ejected

Loaisiga goes up and in on Bichette, does not hit him, Blue Jays manager gets ejected

16. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 10, 2022 at 09:47 PM (#6076152)

Garcia ejected, manager and pitching coach ejected, and after two boring hours we've finally got a ballgame!

Montoya didn’t make the first round of ejections, although he was ‘chatting’ with an umpire at the time he ejected someone else, but Montoya got it the 7th for being overly demonstrative about a Yankee pitch that the Blue Jays thought was too close, although no one was hit.

17. BDC

Posted: May 10, 2022 at 10:06 PM (#6076156)

Catcher needed some repair to equipment, and in the meantime the HP umpire strolled out & had an extended chat with the pitcher. Stray odd things like that at ballgames interest me, though this seemed meaningless enough.

18. BDC

Posted: May 10, 2022 at 10:09 PM (#6076157)

"Last call for margaritas!!" oh my, this vendor is a walking supply of DUIs.

19. base ball chick Posted: May 10, 2022 at 10:18 PM (#6076159)

anyone watching the astros/twins?
as games go this year this one b interesting

20. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: May 10, 2022 at 10:23 PM (#6076160)

anyone watching the astros/twins?

Yeah, I'm watching, at work, from Sydney. Mr. Kate Upton on the bump...fun game.

21. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: May 10, 2022 at 10:25 PM (#6076161)

Eh, and that's that. Fun while it lasted...

22. base ball chick Posted: May 10, 2022 at 10:25 PM (#6076162)

i jinxed him

23. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 10, 2022 at 10:51 PM (#6076165)

ALL RISE, and remain standing out of respect: Aaron Judge’s 3-run walk-off HR to the 2nd deck in LF gives the Yankees a dramatic 6-5 win over Toronto.

24. Walt Davis Posted: May 10, 2022 at 10:53 PM (#6076166)

Wade Miley sighting for the Cubs!

Likely done for the day ... 3 runs and 63 pitches in just 3 innings just off the IL. Hope the offense overcomes the 3-2 deficit (not likely) and that Miley's arm is still attached in the morning and call it a small victory.

25. Walt Davis Posted: May 10, 2022 at 10:56 PM (#6076169)

Eek ... just tuned into this Cubs-Padres game and Clevinger is sporting ... pig tails. Plural. A mustachioed Pippi Longstocking (Google it! Then get off my lawn!)

26. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: May 10, 2022 at 10:57 PM (#6076171)

Trevor Story with a 2-RBI single against ex Red Sox jersey wearer Thornburg(did he actually pitch for the Sox or just collect a paycheck?)-too lazy to look it up

27. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: May 10, 2022 at 10:58 PM (#6076172)

Sox have 9 runs and 11 hits in this game. Let the winning streak begin!

28. Walt Davis Posted: May 10, 2022 at 10:59 PM (#6076174)

Alas, Villar's eye black (in a night game in SD) and gold chains are no match for the pig tails.

29. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: May 10, 2022 at 11:01 PM (#6076175)

Sox up 9-4 heading into the last half of the 9th. Sox fans mildly confident pen can hold this lead...

30. Walt Davis Posted: May 10, 2022 at 11:04 PM (#6076176)

Tyler Thornburg pitched 42 key innings for the Red Sox across two seasons, compiling a 6.54 ERA but 2-0 record. For that he was paid the princely sum of (give or take) $6 M over 3 seasons which broke the bank for the Red Sox.

31. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick

Posted: May 10, 2022 at 11:05 PM (#6076177)

ALL RISE, and remain standing out of respect: Aaron Judge’s 3-run walk-off HR to the 2nd deck in LF gives the Yankees a dramatic 6-5 win over Toronto.

It was Judge's 168th home run, and his first walkoff. No doubt about this one.

32. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 10, 2022 at 11:16 PM (#6076178)

It was Judge's 168th home run . . .

One behind Tony Lazzeri for 23rd on the Yankees Career HR Leaderboard.

33. Walt Davis Posted: May 10, 2022 at 11:27 PM (#6076181)

One of the "fun" things about rooting for a team like the Cubs where about 300 players have been on the roster the last couple of seasons is that you get to see things like #66 on base.

And #66 steals 3rd and scores on a wild throw. (#66 is actually Ortega who has been on the roster the whole year.)

And now something I'm not sure I've ever seen before ... Contreras on 2B, hard GB to third, Contreras gets caught off 2B ... almost coulda turned the oddest DP I've ever seen -- arguably Contrereas interfered but the umps didn't see it that way. (Note Contreras wasn't running he just got snuck behind.)

34. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: May 10, 2022 at 11:31 PM (#6076183)

For that he was paid the princely sum of (give or take) $6 M over 3 seasons which broke the bank for the Red Sox.

Pffft, it wasn't the money, it's that they gave away(at the time) a decent position player(Shaw), who of course had a couple of good seasons in the meantime. The Sox were guilty of the "never trade a position player for a reliever" move and of course got the results I expected.

So the Sox won! Yes, won a game! Here come the Red Sox.

35. Walt Davis Posted: May 10, 2022 at 11:32 PM (#6076184)

#23 in HR on the Cubs all-time list is Rick Monday with 106. Schwarber made it to #21, Javy 17, Bryant 15 and Rizzo a pretty impressive #6 with 242, just passing Aramis Ramirez. 168 would put Judge just between Bryant and Dawson (174). I suspect you could win a lot of drinks in Wrigleyville bars with the question "who hit more HRs for the Cubs, Soriano or Dawson?"

36. Walt Davis Posted: May 10, 2022 at 11:34 PM (#6076186)

Gsellman, on in relief of Miley, might look better in pigtails.

37. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 10, 2022 at 11:40 PM (#6076188)

Yankees look to be expanding their AL East lead tonight with their win over Toronto and the Rays trailing the Angels 8-0. A single BB is the only blemish on Reid Detmers record in 7th, although as I typed a marginal error ruling was made.

EDIT: Detmers made it through the top of the 7th on 83 pitches.

38. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 10, 2022 at 11:59 PM (#6076193)

I wonder how many times a game has come down to a no-hitter going for one team and a position player pitching for the other.

Sidebar: I don’t think homers hit off of position players should count for fantasy baseball purposes.

39. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 11, 2022 at 12:02 AM (#6076194)

That position player is just lobbing them in, with predictable results. Anthony Rendon just hit a HR left-handed, and he’s not a switch-hitter.

40. Walt Davis Posted: May 11, 2022 at 12:02 AM (#6076195)

Sidebar: I don’t think homers hit off of position players should count for fantasy baseball purposes.

Do the pitching stats count for the guy stuck with the position player?

41. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 11, 2022 at 12:03 AM (#6076196)

No, they don’t.

42. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 11, 2022 at 12:05 AM (#6076197)

They’ve got to have someone warming up, no?

43. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: May 11, 2022 at 12:06 AM (#6076198)

Anthony Rendon just hit a HR left-handed, and he’s not a switch-hitter.

Which pretty much tells you how freakishly talented professional athletes are. Wrong handed, the dude hit the ball over 360 feet. Most humans couldn't hit a baseball more then 250 feet hitting from their preferred side.

44. Walt Davis Posted: May 11, 2022 at 12:07 AM (#6076199)

That position player is just lobbing them in, with predictable results.

In fairness, no worse than Kluber. :-)

45. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 11, 2022 at 12:10 AM (#6076200)

No-hitter!

46. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 11, 2022 at 12:14 AM (#6076201)

Not the most articulate fellow, Detmers.

47. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 11, 2022 at 12:16 AM (#6076202)

Fantastic that Detmers was able to do it…but it was malpractice by Maddon not to have anyone warmed up in the 9th. What was he going to do if it got broken up? Leave Detmers out there to throw who knows how many pitches? Have a position player try to finish it off?

48. Brian C Posted: May 11, 2022 at 12:27 AM (#6076204)

Fantastic that Detmers was able to do it…but it was malpractice by Maddon not to have anyone warmed up in the 9th. What was he going to do if it got broken up? Leave Detmers out there to throw who knows how many pitches? Have a position player try to finish it off?

Proof that people will complain about literally anything.

Dude finished at 108 pitches. If someone got on, they get someone warmed up, go into stall mode, and have someone ready by the time Detmers pitches to one or at most two batters. Seriously no big deal. I mean, "malpractice" ... what kind of drama queening is that.

49. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 11, 2022 at 12:31 AM (#6076205)

The Angels were up 12-0. Plenty of time to stall a bit, have Detmers throw a a few more, and still bring in a pitcher with a massive lead.

50. Walt Davis Posted: May 11, 2022 at 12:32 AM (#6076206)

The Padres have a #66 of their own, reliever Luis Garcia who got through the 9th unscathed.

What was he going to do if it got broken up?

It's Maddon. He'd have intentionally walked the next three batters to relieve the kid of the pressure of trying to complete the shutout, then put the C on the mound, bring in his 3B to catch and play with 8 men on the field.

51. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 11, 2022 at 12:54 AM (#6076208)

Proof that people will complain about literally anything.

I think you’re confusing “complain” with “observe” or “discuss.” It’s sports talk. Not every word is to be taken completely literally.

52. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 11, 2022 at 12:56 AM (#6076209)

It's Maddon. He'd have intentionally walked the next three batters to relieve the kid of the pressure of trying to complete the shutout, then put the C on the mound, bring in his 3B to catch and play with 8 men on the field.

This is more in the spirit.

53. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: May 11, 2022 at 01:17 AM (#6076211)

Fantastic that Detmers was able to do it…but it was malpractice by Maddon not to have anyone warmed up in the 9th. What was he going to do if it got broken up? Leave Detmers out there to throw who knows how many pitches? Have a position player try to finish it off?

I'm sure Maddon would have stalled if it came to that, but my guess is that he wanted Detmers to know he had complete confidence in him and not to worry about any potential relievers coming in. This was the same kind of rationale he gave when he intentionally walked Corey Seager with the bases loaded earlier this year. It fired the team up, or some such thing. To some degree, I get it. These guys aren't robots. But I think Maddon goes a bit overboard with it.

54. tonywagner Posted: May 11, 2022 at 07:04 AM (#6076221)

Fantastic that Detmers was able to do it…but it was malpractice by Maddon not to have anyone warmed up in the 9th. What was he going to do if it got broken up? Leave Detmers out there to throw who knows how many pitches? Have a position player try to finish it off?

To preserve his arm, Detmers could have gone into Brett Phillips mode to finish the complete game.

55. Cris E Posted: May 11, 2022 at 09:17 AM (#6076232)

Was at the Twins-Astros last night. Even as a Twins fan it was kind of fun watching the old master pick apart the very young MN lineup. At one point they had one hit and two GDP. Quite a performance.

56. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 11, 2022 at 01:53 PM (#6076281)

I suppose this thread will have to do double duty as today’s OmniChatter until Hombre gets over the writer’s block that must be delaying today’s submission.

Gleyber Torres 3-run HR to RF gives the Yankees a 3-1 lead after 4. Not sure if the 361 foot blast will be sufficient to satisfy the distance-scolds, but the runs seem to always be put on the scoreboard without regard to such objections.

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