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Orioles’ Chris Davis sets record with $3M donation to University of Maryland Children’s Hospital

Baltimore Orioles fans should give first baseman Chris Davis some more slack in 2020. Davis — who is derided in Baltimore for his lucrative contract — made a record-breaking donation to the University of Maryland Children’s Hospital on Monday.

Davis and his wife, Jill, donated $3 million to the hospital. That set a record for the biggest donation ever from a Baltimore athlete.

The 33-year-old Davis signed a seven-year, $161 million deal with the Orioles prior to the 2016 season. Davis has struggled since signing that deal, posting a .198/.294/.385 slash line over the past four seasons.

 

 

QLE Posted: November 05, 2019 at 12:16 AM | 35 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: November 05, 2019 at 08:51 AM (#5898695)
Very nice. Good for them.
   2. Blastin Posted: November 05, 2019 at 09:18 AM (#5898709)
Jeez. I really feel for him, he does seem to be a good man. I'd probably work out a buyout for some pct of my deal if I knew my finances were settled (as they should be but you never know).
   3. PreservedFish Posted: November 05, 2019 at 09:22 AM (#5898712)
How much money would you pay to not feel like a pariah for several more years?
   4. Nasty Nate Posted: November 05, 2019 at 09:48 AM (#5898728)
When a team loses 100 games every year, everybody's a pariah ... and nobody is.
   5. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 05, 2019 at 09:54 AM (#5898730)
Jeez. I really feel for him, he does seem to be a good man. I'd probably work out a buyout for some pct of my deal if I knew my finances were settled (as they should be but you never know).

Why? If he's really interested in doing good, as this pretty clearly shows, why would you give the Orioles billionaire owner some money back? Better to tough it out and give the money to charity.

How much money would you pay to not feel like a pariah for several more years?

5% of my pay, maybe.
   6. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: November 05, 2019 at 10:36 AM (#5898756)
I'd pay a fair amount to not be a pariah. That said, Davis doesn't seem to be a pariah among his teammates, and I doubt that many people outside the team have the impression that he isn't trying his best or that the team's failures are entirely or even mostly his fault. I don't think that he's an actual pariah.

It would be mutually advantageous for the Orioles and Davis to work out some sort of buyout that gets Davis off the field, preserves the total value of the deal, and restructures it to help the team's long-term finances. Realistically that probably means a straight-up release, because it's hard to see this team being good enough to need to take on a lot of salary before Davis' deal ends after 2022. But I'm not an accountant and maybe something else makes more sense.

1B/DH is a position where a #### team should still be able to cast around and find a 1 WAR guy making the minimum who has a nonzero chance of turning into a 4 WAR guy for a couple of years. They need to stop wasting that roster spot on Davis.
   7. escabeche Posted: November 05, 2019 at 11:34 AM (#5898774)
Davis was terrible last year but... he wasn't actually as bad as he was in 2018? He wasn't even the worst player on the team!

If Mountcastle's defense requires him to be at 1b, though, it's hard to see how long the Orioles can keep this experiment up.

Anyway, good on Davis for making the big donation. It really does soften the pain of watching this guy try to find his stroke again.
   8. Blastin Posted: November 05, 2019 at 12:07 PM (#5898783)
Why? If he's really interested in doing good, as this pretty clearly shows, why would you give the Orioles billionaire owner some money back? Better to tough it out and give the money to charity.


I mean, in terms of who deserves that money, surely I agree. I just meant being booed might be deeply painful. But it's not exactly like he's doing something immoral, so I guess if I decided I'd spend my life doing things like this with my money, I'd keep playing, too.

I just noticed him being the same age as me and thought about it from that angle.
   9. bunyon Posted: November 05, 2019 at 12:28 PM (#5898795)
There are a lot of people taking more personal abuse in their jobs than Chris Davis. And they aren't being paid tens of millions of dollars.

Hang in there buddy. Take all that rat bastard's money if you can.
   10. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: November 05, 2019 at 02:57 PM (#5898866)
A bad player, but not a bad guy. Good for him.
   11. jingoist Posted: November 05, 2019 at 06:26 PM (#5898936)
As I have stated previously, the Orioles need to stay away from left hand hitting first basemen with the last name Davis. Glenn and Chris have been costly signings.
   12. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: November 05, 2019 at 06:55 PM (#5898939)
To the extent that you could call what Glenn Davis did with the Orioles ‘hitting,’ he did it from the right side.
   13. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: November 05, 2019 at 07:25 PM (#5898944)
This would definitely be the best part about being super rich. Being able to donate to what you think is a worthy cause and as someone who has 5 kids(and 3 step kids) I am totally on board with donating funds to any children's hospital anywhere, anytime.

.198/.294/.385


But holy moly, that is dreadful. It's great that he keeps plugging away at it, but at some stage surely Baltimore can put a warm body over a 1B/DH that is going to be more productive?

The money is spent. It's gone. No sense in adding to the negative WAR and losses that seem inevitable by having Chris out there.
   14. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 05, 2019 at 09:19 PM (#5898964)

But holy moly, that is dreadful. It's great that he keeps plugging away at it, but at some stage surely Baltimore can put a warm body over a 1B/DH that is going to be more productive?

The money is spent. It's gone. No sense in adding to the negative WAR and losses that seem inevitable by having Chris out there.


Right, but that's on the team to make the call. Davis should show up every day ready to play until they cut him.
   15. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: November 05, 2019 at 10:18 PM (#5898984)
Davis should show up every day ready to play until they cut him.


Totally agree.

I am sure he's much harder on himself about his lack of production then any of the fans are. To be elite at anything you need to be super confident in your ability and I'm sure it rankles him to no end that he can't find a way to be more productive.
   16. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 06, 2019 at 10:14 AM (#5899051)
I am sure he's much harder on himself about his lack of production then any of the fans are. To be elite at anything you need to be super confident in your ability and I'm sure it rankles him to no end that he can't find a way to be more productive.

Absolutely. But it's far better to suck at baseball and be paid $23M to play in MLB, than to suck at baseball and sit on your couch for nothing.
   17. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: November 06, 2019 at 10:27 AM (#5899055)
I remember when Davis set the record hitless streak at the start of the year, an I declared that by season’s end his batting average would be above .150. It ended at .179. So yeah, Davis was awful, well below replacement level and should be released, but not “worst season ever” bad.
   18. nick swisher hygiene Posted: November 06, 2019 at 10:42 AM (#5899060)
Yeah, the problem here is that “worst player in MLB” is also always gonna be “unbelievably ####### good baseball player”: so analogies with other jobs kinda break down.

   19. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 06, 2019 at 10:45 AM (#5899061)
I remember when Davis set the record hitless streak at the start of the year, an I declared that by season’s end his batting average would be above .150. It ended at .179. So yeah, Davis was awful, well below replacement level and should be released, but not “worst season ever” bad.

His 2018 was the 20th worst season ever for a hitter by WAR.
   20. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 06, 2019 at 10:47 AM (#5899063)
Yeah, the problem here is that “worst player in MLB” is also always gonna be “unbelievably ####### good baseball player”: so analogies with other jobs kinda break down.


Well, I'm sure the worst in any profession that demands skill and/or training is really good at it compared to the general population.
   21. PreservedFish Posted: November 06, 2019 at 10:55 AM (#5899067)
Do they? If Chris Davis were a plumber, he might still be better at plumbering than the average Joe, but you sure wouldn't want him working on your pipes.
   22. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: November 06, 2019 at 10:57 AM (#5899068)
His 2018 was the 20th worst season ever for a hitter by WAR.

that's actually the 7th worst since 1900. In looking at the list of worst oWAR seasons the one that jumps out is George Scott's -3.0 in 1968 (in only 387 PAs.) I do NOT remember that at all. He had had 3.9 oWAR the previous year. Was he hurt?
   23. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: November 06, 2019 at 11:26 AM (#5899085)

Do they? If Chris Davis were a plumber, he might still be better at plumbering than the average Joe, but you sure wouldn't want him working on your pipes.


But if Chris Davis were a plumber he would also be better than a ton of the plumbers still learning the job - ie the Minor League and Independent League Plumbers.
   24. gef, talking mongoose & vexatious litigant Posted: November 06, 2019 at 11:29 AM (#5899088)
n looking at the list of worst oWAR seasons the one that jumps out is George Scott's -3.0 in 1968 (in only 387 PAs.) I do NOT remember that at all. He had had 3.9 oWAR the previous year. Was he hurt?


Presumably, like the vast majority of batters, he came down with a bad case of 1968-itis.
   25. SandyRiver Posted: November 06, 2019 at 12:01 PM (#5899106)
Maybe that helped drive his OPS from .839 to .473, but OPS+ is related to league averages and his plummeted from 138 to 40. Even in his fading end-career seasons he never dropped below 80.
   26. Rally Posted: November 06, 2019 at 01:13 PM (#5899151)
That is quite a shocking season for a 24 year old who had established himself as a good hitter. Didn't let it affect his defense, he was +3 at first base and won the gold glove award.

I remember Scott as a big guy. Was he actually bigger than the listed 6'2, 200? Or just an example of how much players have gotten bigger. I find it hard to think of him as the same size as Michael Brantley, Zach Greinke, and Cavan Biggio.
   27. Rally Posted: November 06, 2019 at 01:17 PM (#5899154)
"As a major leaguer, he was listed at 6-feet-1 ½ inches and 205 pounds, though he often had trouble staying at that weight."

From SABR Bio.

More:

"I think what happened to me after the 1967 season, [and] 1968 when I was at my lowest point, I went to Puerto Rico and I met Frank Robinson. Frank Robinson was the manager in the winter-time down there. Having a chance to play for Santurce under Frank Robinson [was] the best thing that ever happened to my career. Because not only did Frank Robinson help me mentally, but he also helped me physically, and I became a better player." Scott had a strong season in winter ball under Robinson, batting .295. He led his league in home runs with 14, and RBIs with 45, well ahead of his competition.
   28. DCA Posted: November 06, 2019 at 01:22 PM (#5899156)
Could just be random.

Scott's 1967 and 1968 together: 102 OPS+
1966: 107
1969: 95
1970: 118
1971: 107

From 1972-1976 he topped 120 each year, but the combined 1967/68 fits in well with the rest of his early career.
   29. SoSH U at work Posted: November 06, 2019 at 01:47 PM (#5899170)

Do they? If Chris Davis were a plumber, he might still be better at plumbering than the average Joe, but you sure wouldn't want him working on your pipes.


And, oddly enough, also better than Joe the Plumber.
   30. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: November 06, 2019 at 02:04 PM (#5899178)
in reading Scott's bio mentioned by Rally, there was a definite implication that Scott got very overweight near the end of the 67 season which continued into 1968. (Dick Williams certainly thought so). I guess that's a FORM of injury
   31. SandyRiver Posted: November 06, 2019 at 03:12 PM (#5899192)
Scott started slowly in 1967, with OPS around .700 at the end of May. Then for June-August it was up near .900 before dropping to .780 for September, the decrease due to lower OBP/SLG as BA slid all the way from .304 to .303. Not sure I'd call that much of a "fat-fade", as lots of players get tired late in the season.
   32. Rally Posted: November 06, 2019 at 03:30 PM (#5899196)
Article doesn't mention how heavy he got but it couldn't have been too much.

He was benched for being overweight sometime in early August. He played 8/8. They were on a road trip, Scott did not start games against the Angels (Red Sox were swept), and Williams would not put him in the lineup until he got under 2015. He did pinch hit in each of the Angel games though, and was even used as a pinch runner on 8/9.

He weighed in at 213 on 8/15 and was back in the lineup. How big could he have been if he returned to his target weight in a week? 225? 230?. That might have been the case if he used boxing/wrestling weigh in techniques to hit the target. At his height and 230 pounds he would have been the same listed size as Nelson Cruz and Gary Sanchez.
   33. Rally Posted: November 06, 2019 at 03:36 PM (#5899203)
His 1968 season seems to extreme to be random.

My guess is a slump, which looked even worse considering the pitching in 1968. Then leads to a crisis of confidence. Dick Williams was a fine manager but maybe he wasn't the best fit for helping Scott get out of the funk, and things spiraled until he got a fresh start and good advice from a respected mentor like Robinson.
   34. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: November 06, 2019 at 04:03 PM (#5899210)
His 2018 was the 20th worst season ever for a hitter by WAR.
You can construct an argument that it was the worst season ever, or at least the worst season in the live ball era. These are players since 1920 who spent 50% of their time at 1B/DH and who had -30 batting runs or worse. IOW, guys whose only job was to hit, who didn't hit:

Rk          Player Year OPSBtRuns WAA/pos WAR/pos Rfield  AB   BA  OBP  SLG  OPS
1      Ivy Griffin 1920   47    
-36    -4.3    -2.4   -3.0 467 .238 .281 .274 .555
2     Johnny Sturm 1941   58    
-33    -3.7    -2.0    1.0 524 .239 .293 .300 .592
3      Chris Davis 2018   49    
-33    -4.5    -2.8   -4.0 470 .168 .243 .296 .539
4    Johnny Walker 1921   54    
-31    -3.4    -1.8   -4.0 423 .258 .278 .329 .607
5        Phil Todt 1927   61    
-31    -3.0    -0.9    5.0 516 .236 .280 .337 .617 


Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 11/6/2019.

Davis was a worse hitter than any of them but Griffin, a worse fielder than any of them but Walker. Griffin was at the transition from the dead to the live ball, so Griffin's hitting wasn't so obviously miserable in his time. The year before Dots Miller put up a nearly identical OPS as a first baseman, and it would have only been something like -0.7 oWAR if he'd had Griffin's plate appearances.

Sturm we can leave out because by definition the worst season of all time isn't had by a starter on a team that wins the league by 17 games and then wins the World Series in 5. Todt's fielding completely removes him from the discussion. That leaves Chris Davis, 2018, worst season of the live ball era.
   35. vortex of dissipation Posted: November 06, 2019 at 09:07 PM (#5899268)
Todt's fielding completely removes him from the discussion.


He actually got an MVP vote that season.

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