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OT - 2020 NFL thread

New England Patriots quarterback Cam Newton has tested positive for the coronavirus and is out for Sunday’s game against the Kansas City Chiefs, league sources tell ESPN’s Adam Schefter and Field Yates.

“Late last night, we received notice that a Patriots player tested positive for COVID-19. The player immediately entered self-quarantine,” the Patriots said in a statement Saturday. “Several additional players, coaches and staff who have been in close contact with the player received point of care tests this morning and all were negative for COVID-19.”

In a statement, the NFL said Sunday’s scheduled game will be played either Monday or Tuesday due to “positive COVID-19 tests on both teams.” A source told Schefter that “Tuesday is more likely.”

Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: October 03, 2020 at 12:46 PM | 22 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: nfl, off-topic, preserving the integrity of the college football thread

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   1. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: October 03, 2020 at 12:48 PM (#5980839)
Each year I introduce this with some variation on "Quarantine procedure is now in effect." And now you know why.



...because NFL talk does not belong in the college football thread. Has nothing to do with any virus.
   2. Howie Menckel Posted: October 03, 2020 at 01:18 PM (#5980847)
I had a note there about a prominent former Auburn QB - is he in the NFL now?

my bad
   3. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: October 04, 2020 at 12:14 PM (#5980995)
If you're talking about Jarret Stidham, then yes, the Pats drafted him in the later rounds and he backed up Tom Brady last year. The Patriots brought in Hoyer (who has been on the team before) as a backup, and it looks like he's slotted behind Newton. That strongly suggests to me that the team feels Stidham isn't in their future plans.
   4. ramifications of an exciting 57i66135 Posted: October 04, 2020 at 09:19 PM (#5981078)
goddammit mailata.
   5. ramifications of an exciting 57i66135 Posted: October 04, 2020 at 09:35 PM (#5981081)
if the eagles manage to win this game, they'll be in first place in the NFC east.


...and then that happens.
   6. ramifications of an exciting 57i66135 Posted: October 04, 2020 at 09:40 PM (#5981084)
3rd and 34.
   7. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: January 09, 2021 at 01:21 PM (#5998606)
bump
   8. JJ1986 Posted: January 09, 2021 at 04:20 PM (#5998673)
Is there no one who can tell Frank Reich to wear his mask correctly? What a ######.
   9. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: January 09, 2021 at 10:33 PM (#5998748)
I can’t figure out what got nannied in 8. I can only think of Bugs Bunny’s “What a maroon”.
   10. Howie Menckel Posted: January 09, 2021 at 10:53 PM (#5998751)
douche bag?
   11. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: January 09, 2021 at 11:00 PM (#5998755)
[10] It had to be 6 letters. Maybe fucker.
   12. JJ1986 Posted: January 24, 2021 at 06:02 PM (#6001498)
Holy ####, Matt LaFleur. Don't try to win or anything.
   13. stanmvp48 Posted: January 24, 2021 at 06:25 PM (#6001501)
Looked like AR could have run in on third down
   14. SoSH U at work Posted: January 24, 2021 at 06:41 PM (#6001505)
Looked like AR could have run in on third down


Or at least close enough to make LaFleur decide to go for it on fourth.

   15. ramifications of an exciting 57i66135 Posted: January 25, 2021 at 01:04 PM (#6001627)
the detroit lions hired a cannibal to be their head coach.
   16. Howie Menckel Posted: January 25, 2021 at 01:52 PM (#6001647)
Thomas Casale
@TheTomCasale
My son: "Why are they kicking a FG? They need a touchdown and 2-point conversion."

He's 10.

Imagine a 4th grader knowing more than the head coach of the Green Bay Packers.
6:05 PM · Jan 24, 2021

...............

funny because it's true (interesting because one analytics group ranked him 3rd in making what they see as the optimal choice. a little silly on their part, because it doesn't take into effect injuries, fatigue, availability of 'trick plays,' quality of opposing coach in such spots, etc.)

less understood, I think, is what deep doo doo they were in.

you have to convert a 4th down from the 8 to give yourself a 24 pct chance of winning the game (basically, 50-50 on do you make the 2-point conversion and 50-50 to win in OT).

analytics geeks had the Packers' chance of winning at 10.8 pct if they went for it (adding in difficulty of getting the TD) and 7.8 pct if they kick a FG (3 timeouts and 2-minute warning, and TD avoids OT issue).

fun fact: "no team had attempted a field goal in the final three minutes of a game when trailing by between four and eight points since the Falcons in 2015. LaFleur was an assistant on Dan Quinn's staff in Atlanta for that game."

Quinn's game management skillset reached its zenith in the Super Bowl, where he blew a 25-point lead with a series of decisions that deftly threaded the needle between sheer incompetence and the league starting to wonder if "the fix was in."

meanwhile Tony Romo had 8 or 10 kittens when the Bills only kicked an extra point late to get within 17. he acted as if being down 16 late was no big deal even though:

- you need a TD
- you need a 2-point conversion
- you need another TD
- you need another 2-point conversion
- you need to hold the opponent scoreless

and all that for a 50-50 shot in OT!

I'd have gone for 2, but it wasn't that far away from "angels head on a pin" territory at that point.
   17. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: January 25, 2021 at 01:59 PM (#6001650)
you have to convert a 4th down from the 8 to give yourself a 24 pct chance of winning the game (basically, 50-50 on do you make the 2-point conversion and 50-50 to win in OT).


Lower, since Brady would have 2 minutes to get his team into field goal position to win the game. Otoh, they could get a 3 and out and get their own field goal to win the game, but that's less likely.
   18. Howie Menckel Posted: January 25, 2021 at 02:19 PM (#6001658)
true dat
   19. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: January 25, 2021 at 02:52 PM (#6001663)
I remember thinking earlier in the game when the Packers went for 2 that it would come back to bite them if they missed it (which they did). Sure, it only left them down by 5, rather than 4 if they had kicked the PAT, but after the Bucs’ FG, GB was now down by 8 instead of 7. If they had only been down by 7, would they have gone for it on that last drive? Why go for 2 earlier in the game if you didn’t have enough confidence to go for the TD + 2 later on? I am not much of a football fan but the whole thing was pretty baffling to me.
   20. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: January 25, 2021 at 04:04 PM (#6001678)
If they had only been down by 7, would they have gone for it on that last drive?


Probably. The thing about being down 8 is that if you don't get the 2-pt conversion, then you still need a field goal drive, so the field goal at least meant that they didn't have to worry about that. And a turnover on downs there would mean that they'd need to get the same stop that they needed when they elected to kick off.
   21. kubiwan Posted: January 25, 2021 at 07:07 PM (#6001714)
I remember thinking earlier in the game when the Packers went for 2 that it would come back to bite them if they missed it


And if they had succeeded they would be in the catbird seat (relatively speaking), down only 6 after the Bucs made their figgie.

It is almost like scoring points puts you in a better position than not scoring points!
   22. billyshears Posted: January 26, 2021 at 07:30 AM (#6001762)
If you're talking about Jarret Stidham, then yes, the Pats drafted him in the later rounds and he backed up Tom Brady last year. The Patriots brought in Hoyer (who has been on the team before) as a backup, and it looks like he's slotted behind Newton. That strongly suggests to me that the team feels Stidham isn't in their future plans.


The Patriots backup QB hype cycle is moving faster these days.

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