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Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: October 01, 2021 at 06:41 PM | 30 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: October 01, 2021 at 06:42 PM (#6042899)
Knew I should've done this three weeks ago.

Link's to a story about this week's big homecoming...
   2. Hombre Brotani Posted: October 03, 2021 at 12:41 AM (#6043185)
Urban Meyer could have used some quarantining.
   3. we all water; we all 57i66135 Posted: October 03, 2021 at 02:22 PM (#6043244)
just heard a fred barnett reference on CBS.
   4. we all water; we all 57i66135 Posted: October 03, 2021 at 03:53 PM (#6043269)
i'm actually surprised the eagles aren't worse.
   5. Crosseyed and Painless Posted: October 03, 2021 at 08:30 PM (#6043405)
It seems the Lions aren't any good this season. Oh well. Maybe next year.
   6. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: October 03, 2021 at 08:48 PM (#6043409)
The 49ers have some good pieces but I think this is a transition year. I don't think Jimmy G is good enough to win a Super Bowl and he's not durable enough to be the guy for a team that wants to compete on a regular basis.

The 49ers are good enough that they won't ruin Lance's confidence. The 49ers brass is smarter than me but I'd go with Lance even if it makes them worse in the short run. Jimmy G isn't the guy.
   7. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: October 11, 2021 at 11:21 PM (#6045698)
Gruden talk goes *here*.
   8. MY PAIN IS NOT A HOLIDAY (CoB). Posted: October 12, 2021 at 12:30 AM (#6045705)
You shut your "lips the size of Michellin tires”, you “clueless anti football pussy”!
Am I doing Gruden talk right?
   9. smileyy Posted: October 12, 2021 at 12:37 AM (#6045706)
I'm curious to see if there's any lasting damage to Gruden. I hope there is.
   10. MY PAIN IS NOT A HOLIDAY (CoB). Posted: October 12, 2021 at 01:07 AM (#6045711)
How could there not be?
He checked just about every "bigotry bingo check box" there is ...
   11. we all water; we all 57i66135 Posted: October 12, 2021 at 01:14 AM (#6045713)
You shut your "lips the size of Michellin tires”, you “clueless anti football pussy”!
Am I doing Gruden talk right?
needs more gay slurs:
In the emails, Gruden called the league’s commissioner, Roger Goodell, a “faggot” and a “clueless anti football pussy” and said that Goodell should not have pressured Jeff Fisher, then the coach of the Rams, to draft “queers,” a reference to Michael Sam, a gay player chosen by the team in 2014.

   12. MY PAIN IS NOT A HOLIDAY (CoB). Posted: October 12, 2021 at 02:01 AM (#6045720)
   13. we all water; we all 57i66135 Posted: October 12, 2021 at 11:55 AM (#6045793)
That's the joke ...
\"#####\" is a misogynistic slur, not a gay slur.

anyway, the thing i find oddest about this is that gruden made any attempt at all to hide it. if you look at the underlying substance, what's actually there? gruden's creepy horny, he's racially "insensitive", he's homophobic...that makes him an average united states senator.


sure, he wouldn't have been able to do monday night football anymore, but he'd have made a lot of money doing a podcast for shitty little white men everywhere on breitbart sports.


   14. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: October 12, 2021 at 12:41 PM (#6045807)
Suddenly, Urban Meyer does not look as bad.
   15. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 12, 2021 at 01:12 PM (#6045826)
Well, one big problem Meyer has is that he's a much worse coach than Gruden.
   16. we all water; we all 57i66135 Posted: October 12, 2021 at 02:17 PM (#6045836)
this isn’t just about Gruden’s emails or words. It’s what they indicate about the culture he fostered. Despite coaching a diverse team, Gruden repeatedly expressed that he doesn’t believe Black people, gay people, and women are qualified for jobs in the NFL.
...
Between his tenures with the Raiders and Buccaneers, he has given snaps to only one Black quarterback: Shaun King, who was already on the Tampa Bay roster when Gruden was hired in 2002. None of Gruden’s past eight offensive or defensive coordinators have been Black. His only Black coordinator was Willie Shaw, who worked as the Raiders DC in 1998 and 1999. When Shaw was abruptly fired in 1999 after helping the Raiders go from 28th to 16th in points allowed in two seasons, Gruden and Allen tried to spin it as allowing Shaw to pursue head-coaching opportunities. Shaw never became a head coach; the Raiders promoted a white assistant, Chuck Bresnahan, to replace him.
...
this year, a record 12 women are on NFL coaching staffs. None are on the Raiders
...
the story is more than just his emails. It’s the role he played in making the NFL more exclusionary, and the role others played in letting that happen.
link
   17. we all water; we all 57i66135 Posted: October 12, 2021 at 03:31 PM (#6045848)

ESPN @espn
"Earlier this evening, The New York Times uncovered a trail of emails dating back seven years, in which Jon Gruden had a clean sweep of offending NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, women, gays, minorities, all sorts of people."

— @AdamSchefter with an update on Jon Gruden
Emma Baccellieri @emmabaccellieri
I'm sorry but I'm losing it at "a clean sweep of offending NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, women, gays, minorities." You know, the Core Four, the Mount Rushmore of people to offend.
   18. KronicFatigue Posted: October 13, 2021 at 01:51 PM (#6046100)
I'm curious to see if there's any lasting damage to Gruden. I hope there is.


I can't imagine a scenario where any team (or network) would hire him again. Why risk pissing off the NFL when there are similar candidates for a position?
   19. McCoy Posted: October 13, 2021 at 08:03 PM (#6046174)
Gruden didn't want to coach anyway. Davis was the only one to get him to come back and it did so by backing the money truck up to Gruden's house.
   20. we all water; we all 57i66135 Posted: October 15, 2021 at 12:03 PM (#6046655)
Buried in the salacious details of Gruden’s emails, was an email from Allen to right-wing host Mark Levin, whose radio show averages 11 million listeners per week. Years before Levin became one of the hosts who stoked the Capitol siege

Yahoo reports:
In a later email unrelated to Gruden, from 2018, Allen told conservative talk show host Mark Levin that, “remember 90%+ of NFL players have never considered kneeling. The 10% of the players and owners are the issue (see [Eagles owner] Jeff Lurie & 49ers owner).”

“Good points, will hit some of this now,” Levin responded, presumably referring to his show.

“Thanks,” Allen wrote back. “This is so ridiculous it’s embarrassing.”


there was no way to definitively know if the NFL colluded against Black protesters, but there are a reported 10 million reasons why the NFL settled a collusion case with Kaepernick and Eric Reid. The only way we could know for sure is if the NFL released all 650,000 of those emails, which may be why the NFL refuses to do so.

   21. Nasty Nate Posted: October 19, 2021 at 12:47 PM (#6047439)
Exciting finish to the Bills-Titans game last night. But I thought it was a terrible decision in that situation to go for it with a QB sneak. Either kick the FG or try a play that could also potentially get a touchdown. Getting the first down at best there is just not valuable enough.
   22. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 19, 2021 at 12:59 PM (#6047449)
That's a good point. Even if Allen picks up that first down, the Bills have to use a timeout there, and a field goal attempt remains the likeliest outcome.
   23. SoSH U at work Posted: October 19, 2021 at 01:42 PM (#6047467)
I was thinking the same thing as it happened. I liked going for it, but not with the sneak.
   24. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 19, 2021 at 02:38 PM (#6047488)
Seems as good a place as any: what is the reasoning behind the "ineligible man downfield" penalty?
   25. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 19, 2021 at 02:55 PM (#6047494)
My sense is that you don't want to trick the defense into covering a lot of guys who aren't eligible to catch a pass anyway. I don't know if that's the primary reason behind the rule, but it's always been my assumption.
   26. Mayor Blomberg Posted: October 19, 2021 at 03:30 PM (#6047500)
Well, one big problem Meyer has is that he's a much worse coach than Gruden.

Small sample size, no?
   27. JJ1986 Posted: November 21, 2021 at 01:11 PM (#6053851)
According to the NFL, it's still Veteran's Day on November 21.
   28. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: November 21, 2021 at 02:25 PM (#6053862)
I don't think Jimmy G is good enough to win a Super Bowl and he's not durable enough to be the guy for a team that wants to compete on a regular basis.

The 49ers are good enough that they won't ruin Lance's confidence. The 49ers brass is smarter than me but I'd go with Lance even if it makes them worse in the short run. Jimmy G isn't the guy.


Garoppolo was 5th(!) in the NFL in QB DVOA going into today. Ahead of Rodgers, Mahomes, Stafford or Wilson.
   29. we all water; we all 57i66135 Posted: November 25, 2021 at 03:41 PM (#6054639)
it would have been so much funnier if CHI missed that kick again.
   30. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: November 27, 2021 at 10:17 AM (#6054775)
I know it's not news, but I just noticed that Tomlin is about to match Cowher for games/years coached for the Steelers. It seems they've had similar amounts of success as well.

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