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OT - 2021 NFL thread

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Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: October 01, 2021 at 06:41 PM | 370 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   201. stanmvp48 Posted: January 23, 2022 at 06:20 PM (#6062144)
All they had to do was make Tampa take the clock down to 2 minutes to score the next-to-last touchdown then they would have to recover an onside kick no no no excuse for playing single coverage on anyone
   202. SoSH U at work Posted: January 23, 2022 at 06:24 PM (#6062145)
This will be the third straight game where the visitor wins the game with a field goal as time expires.
   203. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 23, 2022 at 06:26 PM (#6062146)
Phew. That Fournette run was probably a bad call. Brady sneaking is a higher percentage play for the first down, and would have left the Bucs with probably 4 plays to tie it up while running more time off the clock. They could have spiked it on 1st down but they probably didn't actually even need to.
   204. Brian White Posted: January 23, 2022 at 06:27 PM (#6062147)
The Bucs did all that work to get back in it, and Bruce Arians thinks its fine in the final half minute to cover Cooper Kupp one-on-one with a safety. Okay cool.
   205. Ron J Posted: January 23, 2022 at 08:08 PM (#6062160)
#204 Astonishing. Three huge plays to Kupp (the 3rd and 20 in the first half too) with honestly crazy coverage decisions.
   206. Tony S Posted: January 23, 2022 at 08:51 PM (#6062167)
AuntBea in 203 -- that makes sense if you're up, tied, or down by a field goal or less. But if you need a touchdown and one materializes in front of you, you take it. Even if Brady gets the first down on a plunge, you can't assume he's going to find the end zone afterwards. I think the Bucs played it right; they just blew the coverage in the subsequent Ram drive.
   207. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 23, 2022 at 09:06 PM (#6062172)
My statement was about the play call, not the result. The TD only materialized because the defender missed a tackle. They didn't know they were going to get a TD when they made then play call. Certainly if the Bills were going to give them 7 points with zero risk of getting stuffed they should have taken it.

Maybe a 1st down running Fournette was 70/30, a TD on that play 50/50 with the Rams expecting a sneak, an actual sneak 1st down 80/20, and a TD after a first down 80/20. With odds like that, a TD is near the same likelihood either way but the sneak runs more time off the clock. Just WAG numbers.
   208. Tony S Posted: January 23, 2022 at 09:27 PM (#6062174)
Has there been a better weekend of divisional playoffs?
   209. Brian White Posted: January 23, 2022 at 09:27 PM (#6062175)
I feel like that was a poor time for a busted coverage on the Chiefs' part.
   210. Brian White Posted: January 23, 2022 at 09:30 PM (#6062177)
Ok, on further review, it wasn't a busted coverage. CB just fell down.

Still, this has been a fun weekend of football, regardless of how this ends.
   211. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 23, 2022 at 09:41 PM (#6062178)
Yeah these games have been so good this weekend. Each arguably better than the last.
   212. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 23, 2022 at 09:44 PM (#6062179)
It is hilarious to think, in retrospect, that the consensus from the analytical community was Baker Mayfield was going to be a much better QB than Josh Allen.

That's not a knock on analytics. It is not easy to know who is going to be really good and who isn't when it comes to drafting a QB. It's just that Allen is just so dynamic now.
   213. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 23, 2022 at 09:48 PM (#6062180)
In really sad news, despite this wacky and high scoreline, no scorigami is possible.
   214. Tony S Posted: January 23, 2022 at 09:48 PM (#6062181)
The games this weekend have been Side Two of Who's Next. Who will get to scream at the end of Won't Get Fooled Again?
   215. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 23, 2022 at 09:59 PM (#6062182)
Both the Bucs and the Bills kicked into the endzone, allowing no time to run off the clock on the kickoff. Isn't there anything else teams can do?
   216. SoSH U at work Posted: January 23, 2022 at 10:09 PM (#6062183)
I thought the same thing. Ten years ago we would have seen a squib kick, which could have burned a few seconds off the clock if done right.
   217. stanmvp48 Posted: January 23, 2022 at 10:41 PM (#6062187)
I have seen the squib kick backfire on occasion.

Let me make the same point I made in the first game: If you are going to get beaten, then commit deliberate defensive holding. The guy guarding Kelce on the play before the field goal did not bump him at all-legally or illegally
   218. Zach Posted: January 23, 2022 at 10:58 PM (#6062188)
That was an amazing game.
   219. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 23, 2022 at 11:14 PM (#6062189)
This Chiefs-Bills game is why I think the 49ers will never be able to win a Super Bowl with Jimmy G. As good a defense as you can have, at some point, these very good to great QBs are going to start putting up points. You can't expect a defense to essentially bottle up these guys up for 3 or 4 straight games. It just isn't going to happen.

At some point, your QB is just going to have to make a lot of plays.
   220. Red Menace Posted: January 24, 2022 at 12:49 AM (#6062190)
reprised this today - same place, same table, same food and drink orders, same "sweat," same result.
at least I have my midday schedule set for next Sunday.
;)

65. Howie Menckel Posted: January 15, 2022 at 09:10 PM (#6061200)

watched the game with a college buddy of mine - Bengals fan who still dreams of seeing Ken Anderson put into the Hall of Fame.

he went through his age 30s, 40s, and 50s without seeing a playoff win. he was a bit on edge down the stretch
:)


I almost posted last time, so I'll do it here. I went through my teens, 20s and 30s without a Bengals playoff win. Cheers to your buddy. This was the best divisional weekend of football I can imagine and it's great that I'll still have the Bengals alive.
   221. SoSH U at work Posted: January 24, 2022 at 12:53 AM (#6062191)
This Chiefs-Bills game is why I think the 49ers will never be able to win a Super Bowl with Jimmy G.


Isn't every game why you think the Niners will never be able to win a Super Bowl with Jimmy G?

   222. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: January 24, 2022 at 01:29 AM (#6062192)
Agreed that the Bills defense not committing holding was a huge error. Even holding all five eligible receivers on the play carries the same penalty as holding just one- five yards. It’s really inexcusable to give up a field goal drive kicking off with 13 seconds on the clock. That’s a short enough time that you can commit penalties, give them some free yards and then force them to go for a 65 TD play to end the game.
   223. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 24, 2022 at 08:22 AM (#6062196)
Isn't every game why you think the Niners will never be able to win a Super Bowl with Jimmy G?

I will concede that I have belabored the point.
   224. Mike A Posted: January 24, 2022 at 09:26 AM (#6062203)
I have seen the squib kick backfire on occasion.

In 2008, the Bears scored with 11 seconds left to take a 1-point lead over the Falcons. They squibbed the kick (not very deep, returned to the Falcon 45), Matt Ryan hit a sideline out, and the Falcons kicked the game winner. So yeah, there are arguments both ways. I still think I'd rather have Mahomes with one play instead of two, though.

The ESPN win probability chart of the last 2 minutes is insane:

2:00 Chiefs 83% to win
1:39 Bills 93%
1:03 Chiefs 92%
0:13 Bills 91%

91% with 13 seconds left actually seems kinda low to me, but hey.
   225. Nasty Nate Posted: January 24, 2022 at 09:34 AM (#6062207)
I find it funny that Jimmy G's ceiling is supposedly being able to reach the Super Bowl and even attain a lead in the 4th quarter, but he can't win. It's so oddly specific.
   226. KronicFatigue Posted: January 24, 2022 at 09:34 AM (#6062208)
Agreed that the Bills defense not committing holding was a huge error. Even holding all five eligible receivers on the play carries the same penalty as holding just one- five yards. It’s really inexcusable to give up a field goal drive kicking off with 13 seconds on the clock. That’s a short enough time that you can commit penalties, give them some free yards and then force them to go for a 65 TD play to end the game.


And you just explained why I gave up on football about a decade ago. To be a Bills' fan, having watched your team play so well, and then to lose on stupidity is just too disheartening to imagine. The NFL is not a very strategic league, there are so many mental mistakes on the regular.

That being said, I enjoyed the 17 minute "highlight" package of the game. I'm not sure why cbs/nfl is cool with showing a whole game via a commercial free youtube video the next day, but I'm all for it.
   227. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: January 24, 2022 at 11:29 AM (#6062226)
Here's the easiest trivia question you'll ever see.

What do these 8 QBs have in common?"

Kurt Warner
Eli Manning
Colin Kaepernick
Russell Wilson
Carson Palmer
Matt Ryan
Jimmy Garoppolo
Tom Brady
   228. tonywagner Posted: January 24, 2022 at 11:38 AM (#6062228)
Agreed that the Bills defense not committing holding was a huge error. Even holding all five eligible receivers on the play carries the same penalty as holding just one- five yards.

The NFL modified the rule book a few years ago to prevent this strategy: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/07/2017-nfl-rule-changes-manipulating-clock-penalties-ravens-49ers

So multiple penalties here would have given KC 15 yards, plus reset the game clock.

It does seem like you could tell one player to hold a receiver, though, and avoid the "multiple" condition. Not clear if it would have worked out, though.
   229. Tom Nawrocki Posted: January 24, 2022 at 12:19 PM (#6062237)
I have seen the squib kick backfire on occasion.


Gee, I can't imagine why the Bills might have been wary of kicking off short after taking a lead in a playoff game with just a few seconds left...
   230. kubiwan Posted: January 24, 2022 at 12:28 PM (#6062240)
It is hilarious to think, in retrospect, that the consensus from the analytical community was Baker Mayfield was going to be a much better QB than Josh Allen.


Mayfield went 1st overall, while Allen went 7th, so it wasn't just "the analytical community" that held that view. I don't recall what I thought about Mayfield, but I definitely though more of him than Allen, who I had tagged as an complete bust, mostly due to accuracy issues.
   231. . . . . . . Posted: January 24, 2022 at 12:40 PM (#6062245)
Mayfield went 1st overall, while Allen went 7th, so it wasn't just "the analytical community" that held that view. I don't recall what I thought about Mayfield, but I definitely though more of him than Allen, who I had tagged as an complete bust, mostly due to accuracy issues.


Allen revamped his mechanics in the pros, and Mayfields mechanics have broken down a little. Coaching matters.
   232. Lassus Posted: January 24, 2022 at 12:57 PM (#6062249)
I have seen the squib kick backfire on occasion.
Gee, I can't imagine why the Bills might have been wary of kicking off short after taking a lead in a playoff game with just a few seconds left...


You didn't even NEED TO SQUIB IT. Just 75% the freaking thing to somewhere between 10 and the goal line. Is that so difficult? Even the 15.
   233. JJ1986 Posted: January 24, 2022 at 01:03 PM (#6062250)
What do these 8 QBs have in common?"
I assume it's beating Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs.
   234. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: January 24, 2022 at 01:59 PM (#6062260)
[228] TIL! I'm glad to see the NFL changed that rule since it was exploitable.
   235. Zach Posted: January 24, 2022 at 05:33 PM (#6062297)
You can't expect a defense to essentially bottle up these guys up for 3 or 4 straight games.

I came to a similar conclusion rooting for the Martyball era Chiefs.
   236. Zach Posted: January 24, 2022 at 05:41 PM (#6062300)
It's kind of mind boggling that Allen could run two successful drives after the two minute warning and still lose to Mahomes, who ran three.

We're used to thinking of the two minute drill as a dramatic test of QB skill, and those guys were speed running it.
   237. Howie Menckel Posted: January 24, 2022 at 05:51 PM (#6062302)
NFL teams winning the OT coin toss have only won 52.8 percent of those games, which is manageable.

but in the postseason, coin-toss winners are 10-1 (exception is 2018 Saints vs Rams, when the refs failed to throw a flag for a groping that was part pass interference, part felonious assault).

that - that seems like a problem.

7 of the 10 winners simply marched the ball down the field and scored a TD, ballgame over, season over.
   238. Tom Nawrocki Posted: January 24, 2022 at 06:32 PM (#6062305)
If anyone cares, here's where the information on playoff overtime came from.
   239. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 30, 2022 at 05:19 PM (#6063068)
That 3rd quarter was highly unexpected, and quite a pleasant surprise. Game on.

edit: also, I wasn't watching the first half, but I noticed KC went 80 yards and the time ran out with them on the 1. Did they think they would get one more play after the 2nd down play, and the clock just ran out?
   240. stanmvp48 Posted: January 30, 2022 at 05:35 PM (#6063069)
They had second down with five seconds left they were out of timeouts because fat Andrew had wasted one they stupidly threw
a pass behind the line of scrimmage in the player was tackled
   241. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 30, 2022 at 05:47 PM (#6063071)
KC has had 5 drives and only had about 30 yards this half. That was not at all expected.
   242. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 30, 2022 at 06:03 PM (#6063073)
Those were two wild back-to-back plays. Must have been some very good pass defending. Too bad kickers are so good now...
   243. Tony S Posted: January 30, 2022 at 06:04 PM (#6063074)
The Bengals are in this game because of two big goal line stands at the end of each half.

I wonder if Mahomes is hiding an injury. Until that final drive, he was ineffective in the second half, and he couldn't finish off the one good one.
   244. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 30, 2022 at 06:06 PM (#6063075)
KC just had their best play of the second half by WPA: winning the coin flip. (just kidding. probably.)
   245. KronicFatigue Posted: January 30, 2022 at 06:08 PM (#6063076)
I put the game on at 1st and goal to see if Reid could screw up clock management. ShotgunPlay action leading to a 1v1 on the near side was a chef's kiss
   246. Tony S Posted: January 30, 2022 at 06:09 PM (#6063077)
Three bad passes by Mahomes.
   247. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 30, 2022 at 06:13 PM (#6063078)
Yeah Mahomes' stats are terrible since half time. Few yards, below 50% completion, multiple sacks, two interceptions.
   248. Tony S Posted: January 30, 2022 at 06:17 PM (#6063079)
Media narrative officially ruined.

Congrats to the Bengals.
   249. Tony S Posted: January 30, 2022 at 06:20 PM (#6063081)
I've seen this kind of thing before. A heavy favorite lives up to the billing early, but the underdog manages to get back in it, and the favorite panics and freezes up.

Cardinals vs. Royals in 1985. (No, it wasn't just Denkinger.)
   250. jmurph Posted: January 30, 2022 at 06:20 PM (#6063082)
Mahomes is incredible. But that's the worst quarterbacking to end a playoff game from a good QB that I can remember. Just mind-boggling decisions.
   251. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 30, 2022 at 06:23 PM (#6063083)
Preseason odds of Cincy winning the Superbowl were reportedly 10,000:1.

Odds less than a week ago (Monday) were reportedly 40:1.
   252. Tony S Posted: January 30, 2022 at 06:23 PM (#6063084)
I'm glad Mahomes got a ring early, because of he hadn't, he'd never live this one down.

I still think he wasn't physically right in the second half.
   253. Tony S Posted: January 30, 2022 at 06:28 PM (#6063088)
Ickey Woods! Nice to see him.
   254. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 30, 2022 at 07:00 PM (#6063093)
That was a surprising second half performance from Mahomes, really even at the first half.

The Niners can beat Cincy.

Cheap shot from Warner.
   255. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: January 30, 2022 at 07:21 PM (#6063095)
I wonder if Mahomes is hiding an injury. Until that final drive, he was ineffective in the second half, and he couldn't finish off the one good one.


Well, his performance was equally jeckyll-hyde in the first game vs. Cincy.


but in the postseason, coin-toss winners are 10-1


10-2 now.
   256. Howie Menckel Posted: January 30, 2022 at 07:32 PM (#6063096)
Cardinals vs. Royals in 1985. (No, it wasn't just Denkinger.)

sigh. by far the most-referenced ever officiating/umpiring blunder in a non-deciding game that also was not even that game-changing of the WPI of the game in question. its extended references decades later someday will baffle historians who understand the details. and rightly so.

65. Howie Menckel Posted: January 15, 2022 at 09:10 PM (#6061200)

watched the game with a college buddy of mine - Bengals fan who still dreams of seeing Ken Anderson put into the Hall of Fame.

he went through his age 30s, 40s, and 50s without seeing a playoff win. he was a bit on edge down the stretch
:)

three times are the charm!

greatly enjoyed feeling like a fan - even a bandwagon one - for this quixotic journey.

and congrats to Red Menace as well
:)
   257. Tony S Posted: January 30, 2022 at 07:35 PM (#6063097)
I agree about Denkinger. My reference was pre-emptive.
   258. Howie Menckel Posted: January 30, 2022 at 07:48 PM (#6063098)
understood. but still.

:)
   259. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 30, 2022 at 07:50 PM (#6063099)
Hmm, surprised that the Rams went for the FG there. Giving the 49ers a shot to put up some points at the end of the half.
   260. Tony S Posted: January 30, 2022 at 07:59 PM (#6063101)
Rams moved the ball pretty much at will the first half, and SF has eked out the lead anyway.
   261. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 30, 2022 at 08:06 PM (#6063103)
It didn't help that the 49ers had to burn a timeout because Samuel got lit up but I wish they had been a bit more aggressive with their attempt to score. They didn't even really have a chance to get the TV even though they had nearly 2 minutes and three timeouts.

I think that's because Shanahan doesn't want to be too aggressive with Jimmy G at the helm. Of course, that's me taking the more negative light on Jimmy G
   262. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 30, 2022 at 08:36 PM (#6063106)
3 decent drives by the Rams with nothing to show for it is why the 49ers are winning. Interception, missed fG, turnover on downs. The 49ers defense has been good today but not so dominant to only give up 7 points to this point, without a bit of help from LA.
   263. Tony S Posted: January 30, 2022 at 08:41 PM (#6063107)
Jimmy G has gotten away with about 20 risky up-the-middle passes tonight.

Edit: And he did it again, for a TD this time.
   264. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 30, 2022 at 08:44 PM (#6063108)
Heh. It wasn't a good throw, but the receiver was so wide open I wouldn't call it a risky one.
   265. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 30, 2022 at 08:45 PM (#6063109)
Stafford not getting the first down and Jennings getting it might prove to be the difference in the game.
   266. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:01 PM (#6063112)
It meant little, but that was some incredible footwork by Samuel. Should he have let the ball bounce?
   267. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:09 PM (#6063114)
There's no way Shanahan goes for it there on fourth down.
   268. Tony S Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:10 PM (#6063115)
15 free yards. Genius move, Ward.
   269. nick swisher hygiene Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:11 PM (#6063116)
The “let’s try & draw em offsides” is such bullshit—couldn’t we figure out how to regulate that out of existence?
   270. nick swisher hygiene Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:11 PM (#6063117)
268–Watching that reply, he should be ejected.
   271. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:12 PM (#6063118)
That foul was so bad it would have been called unnecessary roughness 40 years ago.
   272. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:16 PM (#6063119)
That was a brutal drop by Tartt.
   273. Tony S Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:16 PM (#6063120)
The Rams have no timeouts. It's all up to Jimmy not throwing the Big Interception he's somehow dodged so far.
   274. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:18 PM (#6063121)
About 7 minutes left, 3 timeouts, and the ball, tie game.

Chance for the Niners to go to the Super Bowl. Jimmy G with a chance to shut me up.
   275. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:21 PM (#6063122)
He's so awful.
   276. Tony S Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:22 PM (#6063123)
That was about as bad a three-and-out as one can have.
And the Rams have been moving the ball with ease all game.
I don't like the Niners chances.
   277. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:27 PM (#6063124)
49ers have to start using their time outs.
   278. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:28 PM (#6063125)
Don't you have to use a timeout before the 2-monute warning if you're the 49ers?
   279. Tony S Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:32 PM (#6063126)
So SF will be down three, with a timeout, and about 1:40 to get it done.
This is one of those times when an elite quarterback does make a difference.
   280. nick swisher hygiene Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:35 PM (#6063128)
ahahahahahahah

what an absolute clown of a QB
   281. Tony S Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:35 PM (#6063129)
That was... horrible.
   282. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:36 PM (#6063130)
You cannot win a Super Bowl with Jimmy G
   283. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:38 PM (#6063131)
Well, that's one way to end it.
   284. Tony S Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:39 PM (#6063132)
Jimmy G didn't cover himself in glory, but the SF defense wasn't any better. The Niners could have easily lost 30-14 or something if the Rams hadn't made some key mistakes themselves.
   285. stanmvp48 Posted: January 30, 2022 at 09:39 PM (#6063133)
Point spread?
   286. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: January 30, 2022 at 10:08 PM (#6063134)
Rams by 4, at least on one line.
   287. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 30, 2022 at 10:13 PM (#6063135)
Jimmy G didn't cover himself in glory, but the SF defense wasn't any better. The Niners could have easily lost 30-14 or something if the Rams hadn't made some key mistakes themselves.

Very few teams play perfect games. Tartt could have intercepted that ball and the Niners may end up winning the game. Ramsey could have picked off Jimmy G as well. Both teams had dropped passes. At the end of the day, Stafford lead two scoring drives at the end of the game and Jimmy G wen 1-6 for -3 yards and an INT in his last two drives.

The silver lining for me as a 49er fan is that there will be no doubt that Jimmy G is gone this year. He's servicable as a placeholder but for team as good as the Niners, he's not the guy to lead them.
   288. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: January 30, 2022 at 10:13 PM (#6063136)
Shannahan’s total lack of faith in Jimmy G, even when he was playing kind of well, leads to the Rams selling out on the run and being effective doing so. And then when Jimmy G is forced to make plays at the end ... shows why there’s no faith in Jimmy G.
   289. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 30, 2022 at 10:18 PM (#6063137)
Shannahan’s total lack of faith in Jimmy G, even when he was playing kind of well, leads to the Rams selling out on the run and being effective doing so. And then when Jimmy G is forced to make plays at the end ... shows why there’s no faith in Jimmy G.

This.

How many times did Jimmy G attempt to throw a deep ball this game? He's just too limited.

He may not be 100% but his durability is also a huge question mark.
   290. Howie Menckel Posted: January 30, 2022 at 11:11 PM (#6063141)
Rams were -3.5 on most books, I am told - so pay the 49ers bettors with the points.

key was the second-down sack in the red zone, led to the Rams settling for the FG because - well, they don't work for gamblers.
;)

Rams open at -4 points over Bengals in Vegas
   291. John DiFool2 Posted: January 31, 2022 at 06:24 AM (#6063152)
Only the familiarity/not traveling aspects of the home field advantage would appear to be relevant, since the crowd should be neutral.
   292. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: January 31, 2022 at 06:38 AM (#6063153)
Niners also punted multiple times in Rams territory. It might be because they don't have faith in Jimmy G but giving away possessions like that is generally not the best strategy.
   293. Tony S Posted: January 31, 2022 at 07:16 AM (#6063155)
Time of possession:

Rams 35:39
Niners 24:21

It wasn't just Jimmy. The 49ers defense let the Rams sustain long drive after long drive.


   294. McCoy Posted: January 31, 2022 at 10:09 AM (#6063168)
This ain't 1954. Time of possession is kind of meaningless.
   295. villageidiom Posted: January 31, 2022 at 11:06 AM (#6063176)
Garoppolo at his worst is throwing on the run. Absolutely the worst. Pretty much every throw that was picked off or had a chance to be picked off was while he was on the move, lobbing a ball to someone. If he has to move he might as well scramble for whatever meager yardage he can get, or just toss it into the seats. He should not throw the ball to any in-bounds player. That's a huge hole in his game, and I wouldn't expect it to improve by next weekend.
Narrator: It didn't improve by the next weekend.

The Rams' defensive line stepped it up a ton in the 4th quarter. They put a lot more pressure on Garoppolo than he saw the first 3 quarters, especially the 49ers' final two possessions.

Shanahan's love for run plays where the ball is run somewhere other than where the lead blocker is going finally didn't pay the dividends they were getting previously.

Hopefully for the Rams' sake McVay makes better use of his timeouts next time around. That, plus a bunch of really boneheadad play calls, makes me think the Bengals don't have as good of a chance beating the Rams as the Rams have of beating the Rams.
   296. Crosseyed and Painless Posted: January 31, 2022 at 11:14 AM (#6063178)
It's weird nit-picking a team headed to the Super Bowl for the second time in five years but it feels like the McVay magic wears down as the season goes along.

I won't bet it myself and know the line is what it is for a reason, but 49 feels high for the O/U for the Super Bowl.
   297. McCoy Posted: January 31, 2022 at 11:30 AM (#6063186)
The year the Rams got to the SB the first time the team was very clearly banged up. Goff and Gurley's performance suffered at the end of the season and with Gurley hobbled in the playoffs Goff's magical season came to an end.


As for Ram pressure I think that largely happened because the defense at the end could sell out. Kyle needed to be more gutsy early on and he wasn't.
   298. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: January 31, 2022 at 04:57 PM (#6063235)
The year the Rams got to the SB the first time

....they won on a safety and an extra point that hit the crossbar and passed over it. And then they left for Los Angeles.
   299. Howie Menckel Posted: January 31, 2022 at 05:29 PM (#6063245)
The year the Rams got to the SB the first time

.... they were a meager 9-7 and lost, 31-19, to the defending champion Steelers. And then they left Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum for Anaheim Stadium.
   300. It's regretful that PASTE was able to get out Posted: January 31, 2022 at 07:31 PM (#6063273)
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