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Wednesday, December 08, 2021
December 30 7:00 PM Peach Bowl Pittsburgh v. Michigan State
December 31 3:30 PM Cotton Bowl Cincinnati v. Alabama
7:30 PM Orange Bowl Georgia v. Michigan
January 1 1:00 PM Fiesta Bowl Oklahoma State v. Notre Dame
5:00 PM Rose Bowl Utah v. Ohio State
8:45 PM Sugar Bowl Baylor v. Mississippi
January 10 8:00 PM Championship Game Cotton winner v. Orange winner
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If you're a ranked non-Power Five team, if you don't get in the New Year's Six, literally the best you can hope for is to play a 6- or 7-win Power Five team in Birmingham, Annapolis or Inglewood. Once in a blue moon, the big boys won't fill all their slots, and you might sneak as high as the Liberty Bowl.
Poor BYU was next in line for an at-large bid and tumbles all the way to the opening weekend against an 8-4 team from Conference USA.
Kent State-Wyoming
Missouri-Army
Central Michigan-Boise State
was tough to choose only 3
Central Florida v. Florida
It's about what each deserves, but man that doesn't look right.
The Miami you're thinking of is playing in the Sun Bowl, which is too good for it. But if we get more of this, I'm okay with it.
The Cheez-It Bowl
The Gasparilla Bowl
Quik Lane Bowl
Duke's Mayo Bowl
Guaranteed Rate Bowl
Idaho Potato Bowl
LendingTree Bowl
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I Like the NY6 Bowls this year, should provide some good games. As a ND fan it sucks they didn't make the playoffs but thats on them. Hoping they can finally get a win in a major bowl game. Been since the 94 season.
If this is our Christmas Day present, I can only conclude that college football fans have, collectively, been very, very naughty this year...
(I guess I am Old Man Yelling At Cloud, but I don't think it's like complaining that the Dodgers and Giants are playing at a reasonable west-coast time. It's not a local west-coast game.)
Oklahoma State (which I will from here on out refer to as OSU. Not THE OSU, but the better OSU) won the Fiesta (I think) against Stanford since 1994 but they don't have a lot of major bowl trophies either.
ND/OSU is sort of the consolation round of the CFP. Both teams came oh so close. With Alabama winning, I really do wonder if OSU makes the CFP even if they score on that final play. I suspect not. And, no, it doesn't make the Baylor loss sting any less.
ESPN is showing the Peach Bowl before the Las Vegas Bowl, and it's already starting it earlier than would be ideal for a standalone New Year's Six game on a Thursday, specifically to wedge in a game after.
Most of the lower-tier games aren't just broadcast on, but owned and operated by, ESPN. The primary point of the rapid proliferation from like 19 games to 42 was to provide cheap wall-to-wall programming -- the really low-rent ones are played in near-empty stadiums and might as well be produced on a sound stage -- so they don't want overlap. They have uniform 210-minute blocks (minus 15 minutes for some early games) and want to roll from one to the next. Where you don't see the 210-minute gap (Holiday Bowl, say), someone else is showing the game.
These games do quite well in the tv ratings. To draw from a couple examples mentioned just prior:
The 2019 Vegas Bowl (there wasn't one in 2020) drew 2.6M viewers, the 2020 Camellia Bowl drew 2.1M viewers. To compare: Sunday Night Baseball on ESPN drew an average of 1.5M viewers, and NBA games on ESPN drew an average of 1.2M viewers for each league's last season.
And just to toss in some attendance numbers - 34K at the 2019 Vegas Bowl (played in a stadium that holds 37K, and 16K at the 2019 Camellia Bowl (played in a stadium that holds 25K).
Sports fans love their bowl games.
it's been said that a tiny sliver of them even bet real money on the games!
No doubt that gambling drives a significant portion of bowl coverage, but why do gamblers hate baseball and basketball so much that those sports get about half the viewership that mediocre bowls gets?
Well, "quite well" is a large overbid.
As to gambling, the serious gamblers I've known feel no compulsion to watch the contests they've bet on, and the serious football fans feel no compulsion to gamble. I imagine interest involves a mix of factors. Schools in bowl games have umpteen thousand alumni from a well-heeled demographic, and that is clearly a big factor in networks paying to broadcast them. I have been known to watch Michigan State end a 6-6 season by losing the St. Jude Bowl, speaking of lost causes; and I knew better than to bet on them when they did. But I am sure there are also quite a few casual-to-serious football fans who bet a little in order to generate some mild interest in such games.
December 21 7:30 PM Frisco Bowl UT-San Antonio v. San Diego State
December 23 3:30 PM Frisco Football Classic North Texas v. Miami (OH)
No, you're not seeing double here. Buoyed by the rousing success of the exposure brought to the city by the ever-popular Frisco Bowl, the folks with the city who spend my hard-earned tax dollars are now doubling down on bowl fever by also staging the Frisco Football "Classic" at the intersection of Games No One Asked For and Teams No One Cares About.
Completing the trifecta, the self-proclaimed Sports City USA is also hosting the 1-AA championship game on January 11.
On the contrary, THIS is the bowl game whipped up literally LAST WEEK once everyone realized there were 83 6-6 teams...and only 82 spots**. So, yes, it literally exists only because some conferences worried they might have the team fated to lose this game of musical chairs asked ESPN to stage another one.
** A 6-7 Hawaii team rounds out your "bowl team's" roster
It'll be an interesting New Years' Eve weekend in my home state of Michigan - MSU and U-M go back-to-back on the evenings of the 30th and 31st.
That would be better than 2012 when 9-3 Louisiana Tech sat home because the idiot AD was trying to play a more "prestigious" bowl against their old fallback Independence Bowl invitation in nearby Shreveport. They ghosted on the Indy Bowl, so they invited some other school, then the more prestigious bowls opted for more prestigious schools that travel better, and Tech was left standing when the music stopped. No bowl for you!
the Owls lost their last two games, and were 1 of only 2 bowl-eligible teams that had to stay home.
Temple also 8-4 in 2010 and got passed over. a year later, I think they got about 14 of 15 alums to show up at the New Mexico Bowl vs Wyoming. I guess word got around.
2010 was the snubbed 8-4 season.
also a snub in 2014, but at 6-6 and as noted - Temple doesn't "travel well" so no shock, really.
four other 6-6s were left with no chairs when the music stopped.
Honestly, and I don't know how to put this nicely, did you read past the headline? Seven bowl games saw declining ratings, yes. Included in those games was the 2019 Gasparilla Bowl, a weekday afternoon contest between media non-darlings UCF and Marshall, which got the same number of viewers that ESPN's NBA games, on in primetime, typically get.
If by "quite well" we mean compared to truly big sporting events, then no, of course not. But for ESPN to draw in more than a million viewers on a weekday afternoon is pretty darn good for them.
Sponsorship name anyone?
Crazee Zain's US Military Parts Discount Warehouse Kabul Bowl!
42 years later, an almost-to-the-day rematch of a great Bluebonnet Bowl contest.
What a ridiculous argument. I'm not comparing bowl game ratings to AccountingTV's "Weekly Audit Techniques". Weekday afternoon bowl games between mediocre-at-best teams do as well as primetime NBA and MLB games. If you think no one watches those either, then what the hell is ESPN supposed to be airing?
Actually, this is true, though involving a different suburb. The organizers wanted to emphasize that the game was being played in Dallas at the Cotton Bowl Stadium (which is reasonably close to whatever would be considered the "Heart of Dallas") after the Cotton Bowl Classic picked up and moved to JerryWorld in Arlington.
:)
I've seen them called "oSu" a lot, based on the logo
Well, Army did face off against Missouri's from 1861 to 1865, so there is that.
And going to bowl games is fun especially when the temps are 60+ degrees warmer than what you left behind.
clifford is "only" 23. and it's not like he's got an NFL career waiting for him.
this has nothing on college wrestling, though. between "greyshirts", redshirts, olympic redshirts, covid redshirts, medical redshirts and kindergarten redshirts, there are some crazy lineups this year. 30% of iowa's returning starting lineup is 26 years old. michigan's 141 lber was a freshman in 2014 ("Earned a bachelor's degree in sociology in spring 2019"). it's wild.
you really think hes got no shot? ####, I think he's got "UDFA who makes a practice squad and ends up getting a year or two on a roster as a backup" written all over him. In a world where Heinicke and Siemien are freakin starters, and Rudock drew an NFL paycheck for a season, I don't see any reason why Cliff couldn't make it in the show. In that sense I get why he's coming back because if he could drag PSU to 10 wins next year he'll get a look or two.
given that this ####### guy stuck in the NFL for half a decade, you're probably right.
but my take on clifford is that he makes players around him worse than they otherwise should be, and he doesn't have the physical tools, or the arm talent, or the "intangibles" to make up for it.
Jeff coached a Georgia Southern team you might be familiar with.
From his Navy bio:
we may not need to be, per SI.com:
"Among the rumors that proliferated online Wednesday was that Barstool Sports, for whom Sanders is a media personality and the subject of a documentary series on Jackson State football, had offered up over $1 million to Hunter.
“We didn't pay him! We ain't got no money! We ain't got no money!” Sanders said, struggling to hold back laughter after being asked about the rumors by Jay Williams. “I heard a million and a half, and I heard Dave Portnoy over at Barstool. That's the biggest lie I ever heard. You know what that is? That means we kicked your butt, we took what was ours, and now you gotta make up an excuse why.
“Ain't nobody get no a million and a half. I wouldn't pay my son a million-and-a-half on NIL. How am I gonna coach a guy making more than me?”
Looked promising in the second quarter after a slow start, but it was not to be. Could've gotten a crazy finish with an onside recovery, but alas...
Bailey Zappe broke B.J. Symons's single-season record for passing yards and tied Joe Burrow's record for touchdown passes on Western Kentucky's last drive of the half.
Of course, they're all just pretenders to David Klingler's 11-game throne.
To wit
Don't fully understand the logic of going for two for UCF there, though.
Hey a Napier sighting! Dunno how you feel about it, CFBF, but he's basically my hero these days.
The program is doing this very clever thing where they literally put out a press release for every off-field analyst, strength coach and recruiting staffer Napier hires. "See? The new guy gives a damn."
I've been enjoying this too. It's nice that the new guy gives a damn! But mostly I just like the anticipation and excitement around the program right now, before real games come along and ruin everything in the fall.
I mean, I like the guy, but it'll take a real miracle to rebuild anything in one offseason and I don't see how next year isn't pretty rough.
Converting that 3rd and 18 was pretty sweet though.
Utah and @Texas A&M is pretty tough, though.
You know, there's sacks and then there are sacks.
Of course, I'm skeptical of all these fancy non-conference games happening in the wake of the upcoming realignment. But I try to hit reasonably "local" road games when I can - while I was in Chicago, I managed to make the trip to Missouri, and I saw the basketball team at Wisconsin and Butler. I've always enjoyed being a road fan in general.
Well, that was a truly unpleasant season of Gator football. Here's to a new, better era.
Anyway, see you in September, CFBF!
@NicoleAuerbach
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New: The CDC is shortening the recommended time for isolation from 10 days for people with COVID-19 to 5 days, if asymptomatic, followed by 5 days of wearing a mask when around others.
Have to think the NCAA/pro sports/other organizations will mirror this policy.
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Chris Vannini
@ChrisVannini
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1h
Source confirms Boise State is pulling out of the Arizona Bowl due to positive COVID tests, as Barstool Sports announced.
Dave Portnoy says they’re looking for a replacement to play Central Michigan. Over at the Sun Bowl, Washington State hopes CMU will come there.
Damn. Sorry state of affairs here.
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