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Wednesday, December 08, 2021

OT - College Football Bowl Spectacular (December 2021 - January 2022)

December 30   7:00 PM  Peach Bowl                Pittsburgh v. Michigan State

December 31   3:30 PM  Cotton Bowl               Cincinnati v. Alabama
              7:30 PM  Orange Bowl               Georgia v. Michigan

January 1     1:00 PM  Fiesta Bowl               Oklahoma State v. Notre Dame
              5:00 PM  Rose Bowl                 Utah v. Ohio State
              8:45 PM  Sugar Bowl                Baylor v. Mississippi

January 10    8:00 PM  Championship Game         Cotton winner v. Orange winner
Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 08, 2021 at 05:12 PM | 188 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 05, 2021 at 05:12 PM (#6056277)
December 17  12:00 PM  Bahamas Bowl              Middle Tennessee State v. Toledo
              6:00 PM  Sunshine Classic          Northern Illinois v. Coastal Carolina

December 18  11:00 AM  Boca Raton Bowl           Western Kentucky v. Appalachian State
              2:15 PM  New Mexico Bowl           UTEP v. Fresno State
              3:30 PM  Independence Bowl         UAB v. BYU
              5:45 PM  Mobile Alabama Bowl       Eastern Michigan v. Liberty
              7:30 PM  LA Bowl                   Utah State v. Oregon State
              9:15 PM  New Orleans Bowl          UL-Lafayette v. Marshall

December 20   2:30 PM  Myrtle Beach Bowl         Old Dominion v. Tulsa
              
December 21   3:30 PM  Humanitarian Bowl         Kent State v. Wyoming
              7:30 PM  Frisco Bowl               UT-San Antonio v. San Diego State

December 22   8:00 PM  Armed Forces Bowl         Missouri v. Army

December 23   3:30 PM  Frisco Football Classic   North Texas v. Miami
              7:00 PM  St. Petersburg Bowl       Central Florida v. Florida

December 24   8:00 PM  Hawai'i Bowl              Memphis v. Hawaii

December 25   2:30 PM  Camellia Bowl             Georgia State v. Ball State

December 27  11:00 AM  Cherry Bowl               Western Michigan v. Nevada
              2:30 PM  Military Bowl             Boston College v. East Carolina
              
December 28  12:00 PM  Birmingham Bowl           Houston v. Auburn
              3:15 PM  Heart of Dallas Bowl      Air Force v. Louisville
              6:45 PM  Liberty Bowl              Mississippi State v. Texas Tech
              8:00 PM  Holiday Bowl              UCLA v. NC State
             10:15 PM  Copper Bowl               West Virginia v. Minnesota

December 29  11:00 AM  Fenway Bowl               SMU v. Virginia
              2:15 PM  Gotham Bowl               Maryland v. Virginia Tech
              5:45 PM  Tangerine Bowl            Clemson v. Iowa State
              9:15 PM  Alamo Bowl                Oregon v. Oklahoma

December 30  11:30 AM  Queen City Bowl           North Carolina v. South Carolina
              3:00 PM  Music City Bowl           Tennessee v. Purdue
             10:30 PM  Las Vegas Bowl            Wisconsin v. Arizona State

December 31  11:00 AM  Gator Bowl                Wake Forest v. Texas A&M
             12:00 PM  Sun Bowl                  Washington State v. Miami (FL)
              1:00 PM  Arizona Bowl              Central Michigan v. Boise State
             
January 1    12:00 PM  Hall of Fame Bowl         Penn State v. Arkansas
              1:00 PM  Citrus Bowl               Iowa v. Kentucky

January 4     9:00 PM  Texas Bowl                LSU v. Kansas State
   2. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 05, 2021 at 05:31 PM (#6056278)
I say it over and over, but they really need to do away with conference tie-ins below the level of champion. Power Five also-rans monopolizing the second- and third-tier games leads to garbage matchups and is bad for the sport.

If you're a ranked non-Power Five team, if you don't get in the New Year's Six, literally the best you can hope for is to play a 6- or 7-win Power Five team in Birmingham, Annapolis or Inglewood. Once in a blue moon, the big boys won't fill all their slots, and you might sneak as high as the Liberty Bowl.

Poor BYU was next in line for an at-large bid and tumbles all the way to the opening weekend against an 8-4 team from Conference USA.
   3. Howie Menckel Posted: December 05, 2021 at 06:01 PM (#6056280)
best rivalry games:

Kent State-Wyoming
Missouri-Army
Central Michigan-Boise State

was tough to choose only 3
   4. Mayor Blomberg Posted: December 05, 2021 at 06:11 PM (#6056283)
North Texas v. Miami
Central Florida v. Florida


It's about what each deserves, but man that doesn't look right.
   5. McCoy Posted: December 05, 2021 at 06:38 PM (#6056286)
How about congratulations, you get to spend Christmas Day in Montgomery, Alabama? And I’m pretty sure your family ain’t making the trip out there for you. Probably not even your GF.
   6. gef the talking mongoose, peppery hostile Posted: December 05, 2021 at 07:40 PM (#6056293)
Said Christmas Day game is played maybe 2 miles from my house.
   7. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 05, 2021 at 09:10 PM (#6056323)
While I'm happy to have a Christmas game for the first time since 2003, not having it be the game in Hawaii runs afoul of my traditionalist sensibilities.


North Texas v. Miami
Central Florida v. Florida


It's about what each deserves, but man that doesn't look right.

The Miami you're thinking of is playing in the Sun Bowl, which is too good for it. But if we get more of this, I'm okay with it.


   8. Howie Menckel Posted: December 05, 2021 at 10:02 PM (#6056327)
I appreciate the traditional bowl names above, but the real ones are awesome:

The Cheez-It Bowl
The Gasparilla Bowl
Quik Lane Bowl
Duke's Mayo Bowl
Guaranteed Rate Bowl
Idaho Potato Bowl
LendingTree Bowl
   9. The Yankee Clapper Posted: December 05, 2021 at 10:13 PM (#6056330)
No Bad Boys Bowl this year? Sad.
   10. Mike A Posted: December 05, 2021 at 10:20 PM (#6056331)
The PlayersUnknown Battlegrounds (PUBG) Mobile New Mexico Bowl is...something.
   11. Meatwad Posted: December 05, 2021 at 10:56 PM (#6056337)
Posted in the old thread
)
I Like the NY6 Bowls this year, should provide some good games. As a ND fan it sucks they didn't make the playoffs but thats on them. Hoping they can finally get a win in a major bowl game. Been since the 94 season.
   12. kubiwan Posted: December 06, 2021 at 11:46 AM (#6056376)
December 25 2:30 PM Camellia Bowl Georgia State v. Ball State


If this is our Christmas Day present, I can only conclude that college football fans have, collectively, been very, very naughty this year...
   13. BDC Posted: December 06, 2021 at 12:03 PM (#6056378)
Why do some of these games start so late? The SRS Distribution Las Vegas Bowl, for instance, starts at 7:30 Pacific, fair enough I guess for locals or Arizona State fans, but it'll be 9:30 in Wisconsin and 10:30 on the east coast. That can't be optimal for TV.

(I guess I am Old Man Yelling At Cloud, but I don't think it's like complaining that the Dodgers and Giants are playing at a reasonable west-coast time. It's not a local west-coast game.)
   14. McCoy Posted: December 06, 2021 at 12:06 PM (#6056379)
Probably because almost nobody watches these games.
   15. bunyon Posted: December 06, 2021 at 12:14 PM (#6056380)
I Like the NY6 Bowls this year, should provide some good games. As a ND fan it sucks they didn't make the playoffs but thats on them. Hoping they can finally get a win in a major bowl game. Been since the 94 season.

Oklahoma State (which I will from here on out refer to as OSU. Not THE OSU, but the better OSU) won the Fiesta (I think) against Stanford since 1994 but they don't have a lot of major bowl trophies either.

ND/OSU is sort of the consolation round of the CFP. Both teams came oh so close. With Alabama winning, I really do wonder if OSU makes the CFP even if they score on that final play. I suspect not. And, no, it doesn't make the Baylor loss sting any less.
   16. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 06, 2021 at 01:28 PM (#6056393)
Why do some of these games start so late? The SRS Distribution Las Vegas Bowl, for instance, starts at 7:30 Pacific, fair enough I guess for locals or Arizona State fans, but it'll be 9:30 in Wisconsin and 10:30 on the east coast. That can't be optimal for TV.

ESPN is showing the Peach Bowl before the Las Vegas Bowl, and it's already starting it earlier than would be ideal for a standalone New Year's Six game on a Thursday, specifically to wedge in a game after.

Most of the lower-tier games aren't just broadcast on, but owned and operated by, ESPN. The primary point of the rapid proliferation from like 19 games to 42 was to provide cheap wall-to-wall programming -- the really low-rent ones are played in near-empty stadiums and might as well be produced on a sound stage -- so they don't want overlap. They have uniform 210-minute blocks (minus 15 minutes for some early games) and want to roll from one to the next. Where you don't see the 210-minute gap (Holiday Bowl, say), someone else is showing the game.
   17. Stevey Posted: December 06, 2021 at 02:08 PM (#6056400)
Probably because almost nobody watches these games.


These games do quite well in the tv ratings. To draw from a couple examples mentioned just prior:

The 2019 Vegas Bowl (there wasn't one in 2020) drew 2.6M viewers, the 2020 Camellia Bowl drew 2.1M viewers. To compare: Sunday Night Baseball on ESPN drew an average of 1.5M viewers, and NBA games on ESPN drew an average of 1.2M viewers for each league's last season.


And just to toss in some attendance numbers - 34K at the 2019 Vegas Bowl (played in a stadium that holds 37K, and 16K at the 2019 Camellia Bowl (played in a stadium that holds 25K).

Sports fans love their bowl games.
   18. nick swisher hygiene Posted: December 06, 2021 at 02:41 PM (#6056405)
Sports fans gamblers love their bowl games
   19. Howie Menckel Posted: December 06, 2021 at 02:43 PM (#6056406)
Sports fans love their bowl games.

it's been said that a tiny sliver of them even bet real money on the games!
   20. Stevey Posted: December 06, 2021 at 03:28 PM (#6056409)
Sports fans gamblers love their bowl games


No doubt that gambling drives a significant portion of bowl coverage, but why do gamblers hate baseball and basketball so much that those sports get about half the viewership that mediocre bowls gets?
   21. McCoy Posted: December 06, 2021 at 03:50 PM (#6056411)
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2019/12/college-football-bowl-ratings-slow-start-espn-abc/


Well, "quite well" is a large overbid.
   22. BDC Posted: December 06, 2021 at 03:56 PM (#6056414)
Thanks, Lance, the wall-to-wall factor certainly accounts for the vagaries of the schedule, the imperative to have no overlap.

As to gambling, the serious gamblers I've known feel no compulsion to watch the contests they've bet on, and the serious football fans feel no compulsion to gamble. I imagine interest involves a mix of factors. Schools in bowl games have umpteen thousand alumni from a well-heeled demographic, and that is clearly a big factor in networks paying to broadcast them. I have been known to watch Michigan State end a 6-6 season by losing the St. Jude Bowl, speaking of lost causes; and I knew better than to bet on them when they did. But I am sure there are also quite a few casual-to-serious football fans who bet a little in order to generate some mild interest in such games.
   23. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: December 06, 2021 at 05:19 PM (#6056426)
December 21   7:30 PM  Frisco Bowl               UT-San Antonio vSan Diego State
December 23   3
:30 PM  Frisco Football Classic   North Texas vMiami (OH


No, you're not seeing double here. Buoyed by the rousing success of the exposure brought to the city by the ever-popular Frisco Bowl, the folks with the city who spend my hard-earned tax dollars are now doubling down on bowl fever by also staging the Frisco Football "Classic" at the intersection of Games No One Asked For and Teams No One Cares About.

Completing the trifecta, the self-proclaimed Sports City USA is also hosting the 1-AA championship game on January 11.
   24. kubiwan Posted: December 06, 2021 at 05:35 PM (#6056428)
staging the Frisco Football "Classic" at the intersection of Games No One Asked For


On the contrary, THIS is the bowl game whipped up literally LAST WEEK once everyone realized there were 83 6-6 teams...and only 82 spots**. So, yes, it literally exists only because some conferences worried they might have the team fated to lose this game of musical chairs asked ESPN to stage another one.

** A 6-7 Hawaii team rounds out your "bowl team's" roster
   25. I am going to be Frank Posted: December 06, 2021 at 06:14 PM (#6056431)
I had no idea Frisco had one bowl game, much less two. Those towns around Dallas do love building expensive stuff to pretend like they're 'real cities' and not just a burb. I initially thought that they were going to play those games at the Cowboys practice facility, but the soccer stadium makes marginally more sense. I guess Allen's football stadium lacks the hospitality suites big time football requires.
   26. The Honorable Ardo Posted: December 06, 2021 at 06:43 PM (#6056435)
Man. Usually one or two of the lower-tier bowl games draw my attention, but it's a series of duds this year. Nothing until the Mike Leach Bowl on the 28th is notable.

It'll be an interesting New Years' Eve weekend in my home state of Michigan - MSU and U-M go back-to-back on the evenings of the 30th and 31st.
   27. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: December 06, 2021 at 09:17 PM (#6056453)
So, yes, it literally exists only because some conferences worried they might have the team fated to lose this game of musical chairs asked ESPN to stage another one.

That would be better than 2012 when 9-3 Louisiana Tech sat home because the idiot AD was trying to play a more "prestigious" bowl against their old fallback Independence Bowl invitation in nearby Shreveport. They ghosted on the Indy Bowl, so they invited some other school, then the more prestigious bowls opted for more prestigious schools that travel better, and Tech was left standing when the music stopped. No bowl for you!
   28. Howie Menckel Posted: December 06, 2021 at 09:27 PM (#6056455)
in 2014, Temple went 8-4 including a win by 14 points over Big East champ UConn which went to a BCS game.

the Owls lost their last two games, and were 1 of only 2 bowl-eligible teams that had to stay home.

Temple also 8-4 in 2010 and got passed over. a year later, I think they got about 14 of 15 alums to show up at the New Mexico Bowl vs Wyoming. I guess word got around.
   29. Howie Menckel Posted: December 06, 2021 at 10:02 PM (#6056461)
ah, conflation/confabulation.

2010 was the snubbed 8-4 season.
also a snub in 2014, but at 6-6 and as noted - Temple doesn't "travel well" so no shock, really.
four other 6-6s were left with no chairs when the music stopped.
   30. The Honorable Ardo Posted: December 07, 2021 at 12:33 AM (#6056471)
I had no idea Frisco had one bowl game, much less two.
No wonder the First Responder Bowl was called the "Heart of Dallas" Bowl. Had to distinguish it from those imposters over in Frisco.
   31. Stevey Posted: December 07, 2021 at 11:22 AM (#6056497)
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2019/12/college-football-bowl-ratings-slow-start-espn-abc/


Well, "quite well" is a large overbid.



Honestly, and I don't know how to put this nicely, did you read past the headline? Seven bowl games saw declining ratings, yes. Included in those games was the 2019 Gasparilla Bowl, a weekday afternoon contest between media non-darlings UCF and Marshall, which got the same number of viewers that ESPN's NBA games, on in primetime, typically get.

If by "quite well" we mean compared to truly big sporting events, then no, of course not. But for ESPN to draw in more than a million viewers on a weekday afternoon is pretty darn good for them.
   32. Brian White Posted: December 08, 2021 at 08:17 PM (#6056741)
It feels like a good time to link to this article: People have been whining about ‘too many bowl games’ for like 100 years now
   33. winnipegwhip Posted: December 09, 2021 at 09:35 AM (#6056766)
To build on #2 (Lance) - schools like BYU get further punished by having an earlier bowl game because they have less time to run practices. Now it does not hurt the team in regards to that matchup as both teams have the same schedule. But coaches use this time to evaluate and prepare players for the next season. Having two more weeks before they are forced to shutdown practices is invaluable....once again benefitting the Power 5.
   34. winnipegwhip Posted: December 09, 2021 at 09:41 AM (#6056767)
If someone pitched the Kabul Bowl in September, ESPN would listen. (It would be on the other side of the world therefore we could run it live somewhere between 2 and 5 AM!)

Sponsorship name anyone?

Crazee Zain's US Military Parts Discount Warehouse Kabul Bowl!
   35. Lonnie Smith for president Posted: December 09, 2021 at 09:46 AM (#6056769)
Re: #34... how about Graveyard Of Empires Bowl, presented by Corporation KFA Blackwater?
   36. SoSH U at work Posted: December 09, 2021 at 09:53 AM (#6056771)
3:00 PM Music City Bowl Tennessee v. Purdue

42 years later, an almost-to-the-day rematch of a great Bluebonnet Bowl contest.
   37. McCoy Posted: December 09, 2021 at 10:07 AM (#6056774)
If I'm broke and you give me a dollar that's a lot of money to me but it is not in fact a lot of money.
   38. Stevey Posted: December 09, 2021 at 10:21 AM (#6056776)
If I'm broke and you give me a dollar that's a lot of money to me but it is not in fact a lot of money.


What a ridiculous argument. I'm not comparing bowl game ratings to AccountingTV's "Weekly Audit Techniques". Weekday afternoon bowl games between mediocre-at-best teams do as well as primetime NBA and MLB games. If you think no one watches those either, then what the hell is ESPN supposed to be airing?
   39. kubiwan Posted: December 09, 2021 at 01:34 PM (#6056797)
No wonder the First Responder Bowl was called the "Heart of Dallas" Bowl. Had to distinguish it from those imposters over in Frisco.


Actually, this is true, though involving a different suburb. The organizers wanted to emphasize that the game was being played in Dallas at the Cotton Bowl Stadium (which is reasonably close to whatever would be considered the "Heart of Dallas") after the Cotton Bowl Classic picked up and moved to JerryWorld in Arlington.
   40. Howie Menckel Posted: December 09, 2021 at 02:05 PM (#6056803)
I have been to Dallas numerous times - and have yet to find any "heart" there.

:)
   41. Karl from NY Posted: December 09, 2021 at 03:03 PM (#6056815)
Oklahoma State (which I will from here on out refer to as OSU

I've seen them called "oSu" a lot, based on the logo
   42. Karl from NY Posted: December 09, 2021 at 03:06 PM (#6056816)
The team I follow is Penn State. I'm snowbirding in Florida for this winter near Tampa, and it just so happened that Penn State landed in the Outback Bowl right here. I may well go for the experience.
   43. BDC Posted: December 09, 2021 at 03:39 PM (#6056822)
Speaking of the Cotton Bowl Classic, for $250 I could go to that game, it's even walking distance from my house. Or I could buy about 40 pounds of Reese's assorted Trees, Bells, and Nutcrackers and eat myself into a stupor. This is going to be a tough decision.
   44. Mike Webber Posted: December 09, 2021 at 10:18 PM (#6056860)
3. Howie Menckel Posted: December 05, 2021 at 06:01 PM (#6056280)
best rivalry games:

Missouri-Army



Well, Army did face off against Missouri's from 1861 to 1865, so there is that.
   45. winnipegwhip Posted: December 09, 2021 at 11:11 PM (#6056867)
Mizzou vs Army is perfect matchup for my neighbor across the street. He was a Missouri student (and fan) who came to Canada as a draft dodger.
   46. The Yankee Clapper Posted: December 10, 2021 at 12:03 AM (#6056870)
The failure to use the official Bowl names here is a disservice to the thread. Who knew there was a Jimmy Kimmel Bowl?
   47. zenstudent Posted: December 10, 2021 at 01:59 PM (#6056902)
Welp...all I know is that having bowl games on non-stop is better than the alternative of whatever Mrs. Zen wishes to watch on those days. And when working, it's good background noise.

And going to bowl games is fun especially when the temps are 60+ degrees warmer than what you left behind.
   48. . . . . . . Posted: December 10, 2021 at 03:44 PM (#6056918)
lolz cliffypants is going back to PSU next year isn't he going to turn 25 at the end of next season? Dude is like Brooks Bollinger but even older. Good QB though.
   49. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 10, 2021 at 04:04 PM (#6056921)
As someone who has watched every game of bowl season multiple times, chronicling my misery in these very pages, I can attest that there are far, far too many.
   50. . . . . . . Posted: December 10, 2021 at 06:58 PM (#6056941)
the food is terrible, the portions are too large, and i finish my plate every time i go there
   51. we all water; we all 57i66135 Posted: December 10, 2021 at 08:58 PM (#6056946)
lolz cliffypants is going back to PSU next year isn't he going to turn 25 at the end of next season? Dude is like Brooks Bollinger but even older. Good QB though.

clifford is "only" 23. and it's not like he's got an NFL career waiting for him.


this has nothing on college wrestling, though. between "greyshirts", redshirts, olympic redshirts, covid redshirts, medical redshirts and kindergarten redshirts, there are some crazy lineups this year. 30% of iowa's returning starting lineup is 26 years old. michigan's 141 lber was a freshman in 2014 ("Earned a bachelor's degree in sociology in spring 2019"). it's wild.
   52. . . . . . . Posted: December 10, 2021 at 09:18 PM (#6056948)
clifford is "only" 23. and it's not like he's got an NFL career waiting for him.


you really think hes got no shot? ####, I think he's got "UDFA who makes a practice squad and ends up getting a year or two on a roster as a backup" written all over him. In a world where Heinicke and Siemien are freakin starters, and Rudock drew an NFL paycheck for a season, I don't see any reason why Cliff couldn't make it in the show. In that sense I get why he's coming back because if he could drag PSU to 10 wins next year he'll get a look or two.
   53. we all water; we all 57i66135 Posted: December 10, 2021 at 09:39 PM (#6056951)
you really think hes got no shot? ####, I think he's got "UDFA who makes a practice squad and ends up getting a year or two on a roster as a backup" written all over him. In a world where Heinicke and Siemien are freakin starters, and Rudock drew an NFL paycheck for a season, I don't see any reason why Cliff couldn't make it in the show. In that sense I get why he's coming back because if he could drag PSU to 10 wins next year he'll get a look or two.

given that this ####### guy stuck in the NFL for half a decade, you're probably right.

but my take on clifford is that he makes players around him worse than they otherwise should be, and he doesn't have the physical tools, or the arm talent, or the "intangibles" to make up for it.
   54. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 11, 2021 at 03:42 PM (#6057018)
Army winging it all over the field.
   55. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 11, 2021 at 04:32 PM (#6057023)
"My kicker's great, right? That's why he's at the Naval Academy."
   56. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: December 11, 2021 at 04:33 PM (#6057024)
Have to say, Navy's uniforms are pretty sharp. The helmets are kind of garish, though.
   57. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: December 11, 2021 at 04:42 PM (#6057025)
Wait, there are multiple Monkens coaching college football?
   58. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: December 11, 2021 at 05:46 PM (#6057033)
A football player named "Fagot" must have had an interesting childhood and adolescence.
   59. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 11, 2021 at 06:04 PM (#6057036)
Wait, there are multiple Monkens coaching college football?

Jeff coached a Georgia Southern team you might be familiar with.
   60. . . . . . . Posted: December 11, 2021 at 11:05 PM (#6057055)
A football player named "Fagot" must have had an interesting childhood and adolescence.

From his Navy bio:

Fagot, who was home-schooled . . .
   61. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 15, 2021 at 01:52 PM (#6057470)
We are not prepared for the impact of "Barstool can pay the number one recruit to go play in the SWAC."
   62. we all water; we all 57i66135 Posted: December 16, 2021 at 10:08 PM (#6057678)
We are not prepared for the impact of "Barstool can pay the number one recruit to go play in the SWAC."
eh, we'll live.
   63. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 17, 2021 at 12:04 PM (#6057747)
The Bahamas Bowl should not kick off bowl season. It's supposed to be the promise of a crazy game on the horizon as I sit through 15 that are garbage.
   64. Howie Menckel Posted: December 17, 2021 at 12:44 PM (#6057754)
We are not prepared for the impact of "Barstool can pay the number one recruit to go play in the SWAC."

we may not need to be, per SI.com:

"Among the rumors that proliferated online Wednesday was that Barstool Sports, for whom Sanders is a media personality and the subject of a documentary series on Jackson State football, had offered up over $1 million to Hunter.

“We didn't pay him! We ain't got no money! We ain't got no money!” Sanders said, struggling to hold back laughter after being asked about the rumors by Jay Williams. “I heard a million and a half, and I heard Dave Portnoy over at Barstool. That's the biggest lie I ever heard. You know what that is? That means we kicked your butt, we took what was ours, and now you gotta make up an excuse why.

“Ain't nobody get no a million and a half. I wouldn't pay my son a million-and-a-half on NIL. How am I gonna coach a guy making more than me?”

   65. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 17, 2021 at 03:43 PM (#6057781)
The Bahamas Bowl should not kick off bowl season. It's supposed to be the promise of a crazy game on the horizon as I sit through 15 that are garbage.

Looked promising in the second quarter after a slow start, but it was not to be. Could've gotten a crazy finish with an onside recovery, but alas...
   66. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 18, 2021 at 01:05 PM (#6057868)
If sacrificing the Bahamas Bowl means a subsequent string of watchable games, I guess I can live with that. Northern Illinois-Coastal Carolina was a thriller, and Western Kentucky-Appalachian State is 31-24 (690 yards of total offense!) at intermission.

Bailey Zappe broke B.J. Symons's single-season record for passing yards and tied Joe Burrow's record for touchdown passes on Western Kentucky's last drive of the half.

Of course, they're all just pretenders to David Klingler's 11-game throne.
   67. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 18, 2021 at 02:10 PM (#6057879)
App State offense not holding up its end in the second half, turning this into a laugher.
   68. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 18, 2021 at 02:19 PM (#6057881)
the really low-rent ones are played in near-empty stadiums and might as well be produced on a sound stage

To wit
   69. Brian C Posted: December 23, 2021 at 07:06 PM (#6058530)
Anyone else here for the Blah Blah Blah Gasparilla Bowl? Or am I just maybe a little bit lame that this is a priority for me, even after this past season?
   70. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: December 23, 2021 at 07:41 PM (#6058532)
No, I'm watching too. And getting annoyed at the announcers, which is just not a healthy thing to do when you're talking about the Gasparilla Bowl.
   71. Brian C Posted: December 23, 2021 at 07:46 PM (#6058535)
Yeah, I was annoyed that dude was complaining about Jones passing up the short pass to Copeland when he had the long throw to Wells complete if Wells didn't flat drop it. Like, if he'd forced a throw to a double-covered receiver after passing up and easy throw, that's one thing. But he had a big play and made a good throw! His receiver just ###### it up! It's just as likely that Copeland drops the short throw! Why complain about that?
   72. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: December 23, 2021 at 07:52 PM (#6058536)
As a general rule, I don't like going deep on third or fourth and short -- just take the easy pass and convert. But that play was one of those annoying announcer moments where they just refused to acknowledge the thing we were all seeing because it negated the point they wanted to make, and that's just insulting. At least mention the whole "receiver slipped, still dropped an easy touchdown pass" thing, man.
   73. Brian C Posted: December 23, 2021 at 08:02 PM (#6058537)
As a general rule, sure, you don't pass up easy plays for low-percentage throws. I have no problem with that one, though. You take what the defense gives you, regardless of downs, and if you have two receivers open, take the bigger play.

Don't fully understand the logic of going for two for UCF there, though.

Hey a Napier sighting! Dunno how you feel about it, CFBF, but he's basically my hero these days.
   74. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: December 23, 2021 at 08:02 PM (#6058538)
Our new head football coach couldn't shave for his national television interview?
   75. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: December 23, 2021 at 08:07 PM (#6058539)
I certainly appreciate having a head coach whose recruiting philosophy isn't just "Eh, it's Florida -- it recruits itself." Mullen and McElwain were both guilty of that, come to think about it.

The program is doing this very clever thing where they literally put out a press release for every off-field analyst, strength coach and recruiting staffer Napier hires. "See? The new guy gives a damn."
   76. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: December 23, 2021 at 08:07 PM (#6058540)
Was that field goal 10 damn yards short?
   77. Brian C Posted: December 23, 2021 at 08:21 PM (#6058542)
The program is doing this very clever thing where they literally put out a press release for every off-field analyst, strength coach and recruiting staffer Napier hires. "See? The new guy gives a damn."

I've been enjoying this too. It's nice that the new guy gives a damn! But mostly I just like the anticipation and excitement around the program right now, before real games come along and ruin everything in the fall.

I mean, I like the guy, but it'll take a real miracle to rebuild anything in one offseason and I don't see how next year isn't pretty rough.
   78. Brian C Posted: December 23, 2021 at 08:25 PM (#6058543)
This game is weird in that Jones either has a receiver or two wide open deep, or he just holds on to it forever. I guess it's pretty pointless to critique his play since he's dipping out after the game, but I don't know what's going on here.

Converting that 3rd and 18 was pretty sweet though.
   79. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: December 23, 2021 at 08:29 PM (#6058544)
We'll have to see how the transfer portal shakes out in the spring -- I expect Napier to hit it hard. If Richardson takes a step forward, I could see next year being a reasonably fun 8-4/9-3 type of season. Hard to imagine them competing for the division or anything, and of course when 8-4/9-3 is your ceiling, that does mean you're just a few strokes of bad luck away from...well, a berth in the Gasparilla Bowl.
   80. Brian C Posted: December 23, 2021 at 08:36 PM (#6058546)
Yeah, we'll have to see. Sitting here now, I'm thinking 7-5 would be pretty reasonable. But life is funny, and sometimes good things happen.

Utah and @Texas A&M is pretty tough, though.

You know, there's sacks and then there are sacks.
   81. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: December 23, 2021 at 08:37 PM (#6058547)
Well, Brenton Cox won't be on next year's roster, because he just committed murder on live television.
   82. Brian C Posted: December 23, 2021 at 08:40 PM (#6058548)
The 2023 season opens @Utah, I will have to find a way to go to that game. Not often the Gators get west of the Rockies!
   83. Brian C Posted: December 23, 2021 at 08:41 PM (#6058549)
Can Gamble hold on to anything tonight?
   84. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: December 23, 2021 at 08:44 PM (#6058551)
UF will actually be playing in my very town in the Rocky Mountains, just a few miles from my apartment...in 2029.
   85. Brian C Posted: December 23, 2021 at 08:54 PM (#6058553)
I was planning to go to that one too! Thanks to the miracle of hub-based airline routes, Denver and SLC are the most easily accessed big cities for me, so I'll be damned if I pass those up.

Of course, I'm skeptical of all these fancy non-conference games happening in the wake of the upcoming realignment. But I try to hit reasonably "local" road games when I can - while I was in Chicago, I managed to make the trip to Missouri, and I saw the basketball team at Wisconsin and Butler. I've always enjoyed being a road fan in general.
   86. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: December 23, 2021 at 09:09 PM (#6058555)
Gus, Greg, maybe cool it with the 51-yard field goal attempts.
   87. Brian C Posted: December 23, 2021 at 09:51 PM (#6058556)
I am not unhappy that we won't have to watch Emory Jones anymore. He has enough talent that I might end up regretting that, but ... he just kinda sucks, I guess.
   88. Brian C Posted: December 23, 2021 at 10:11 PM (#6058558)
I was pretty much writing the Gators off in this game, but if Malzahn is going to put on 4th and 4 inside the Gators 40, then maybe the Gators still have a chance.
   89. Brian C Posted: December 23, 2021 at 10:16 PM (#6058559)
On the other hand, it didn't occur to me that Knox would run Howard out there for another long FG attempt. Can't say I'm thrilled that the special teams coach doesn't know his kicker sucks.
   90. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: December 23, 2021 at 10:42 PM (#6058560)
I guess that was an appropriate final possession of the season. Hope Shorter is OK.

Well, that was a truly unpleasant season of Gator football. Here's to a new, better era.
   91. Brian C Posted: December 23, 2021 at 10:45 PM (#6058561)
Agreed. "Unpleasant" is the best word for it, I think.

Anyway, see you in September, CFBF!
   92. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 27, 2021 at 02:51 PM (#6058756)
We're still determined not to recognize the folly of testing asymptomatic people, I see. It'll serve them right when their precious playoff implodes based on this nonsense.
   93. Howie Menckel Posted: December 27, 2021 at 05:28 PM (#6058767)
Nicole Auerbach
@NicoleAuerbach
·
38m
New: The CDC is shortening the recommended time for isolation from 10 days for people with COVID-19 to 5 days, if asymptomatic, followed by 5 days of wearing a mask when around others.

Have to think the NCAA/pro sports/other organizations will mirror this policy.

..................

Chris Vannini
@ChrisVannini
·
1h
Source confirms Boise State is pulling out of the Arizona Bowl due to positive COVID tests, as Barstool Sports announced.

Dave Portnoy says they’re looking for a replacement to play Central Michigan. Over at the Sun Bowl, Washington State hopes CMU will come there.
   94. Meatwad Posted: December 27, 2021 at 11:09 PM (#6058800)
Barstool loses out as cmu goes to the sun bowl.
   95. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 28, 2021 at 02:49 PM (#6058844)
There might be nothing more annoying in the world than commentators acting like a 51-yard field goal is automatic -- for a college kicker! -- and that instead going for fourth down is bypassing sure points.
   96. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: December 28, 2021 at 04:32 PM (#6058855)
Ucla bails on Holiday bowl hours before kickoff.

Damn. Sorry state of affairs here.
   97. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 28, 2021 at 05:28 PM (#6058862)
If that hasn't been reversed to a touchback by the time the commercial ends, I'll be shocked. That ball was two yards deep in the end zone when it was batted back.
   98. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 28, 2021 at 10:41 PM (#6058895)
Is the Copper Bowl ever moving back to Sun Devil Stadium? It was supposed to be a three-year hiatus to allow big renovations that is now in its sixth year.
   99. Karl from NY Posted: December 29, 2021 at 02:31 PM (#6058922)
Holiday Bowl canceled because UCLA has Covid and no replacement team could be found. NC State is claiming it as a win and the bowl trophy
   100. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 29, 2021 at 04:49 PM (#6058947)
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