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Sunday, December 04, 2022

OT - College Football Bowl Spectacular (December 2022 - January 2023)

December 30   8:00 PM  Orange Bowl               Tennessee v. Clemson

December 31  12:00 PM  Sugar Bowl                Alabama v. Kansas State
              4:00 PM  Fiesta Bowl               TCU v. Michigan
              8:00 PM  Peach Bowl                Ohio State v. Georgia

January 2     1:00 PM  Cotton Bowl               Tulane v. USC
              5:00 PM  Rose Bowl                 Penn State v. Utah

January 9     8:00 PM  Championship Game         Fiesta winner v. Peach winner
Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 04, 2022 at 05:01 PM | 144 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 04, 2022 at 05:01 PM (#6107891)
December 16  11:30 AM  Bahamas Bowl              Miami v. UAB
              3:00 PM  Sunshine Classic          UT-San Antonio v. Troy

December 17  11:00 AM  Fenway Bowl               Cincinnati v. Louisville
              2:15 PM  New Mexico Bowl           SMU v. BYU
              3:30 PM  LA Bowl                   Washington State v. Fresno State
              5:45 PM  Mobile Alabama Bowl       Rice v. Southern Miss
              7:30 PM  Las Vegas Bowl            Florida v. Oregon State
              9:15 PM  Frisco Bowl               North Texas v. Boise State

December 19   2:30 PM  Myrtle Beach Bowl         Marshall v. Connecticut
              
December 20   3:30 PM  Humanitarian Bowl         Eastern Michigan v. San Jose State
              7:30 PM  Boca Raton Bowl           Liberty v. Toledo

December 21   9:00 PM  New Orleans Bowl          Western Kentucky v. South Alabama

December 22   7:30 PM  Armed Forces Bowl         Baylor v. Air Force

December 23   3:00 PM  Independence Bowl         UL-Lafayette v. Houston
              6:30 PM  St. Petersburg Bowl       Wake Forest v. Missouri

December 24   8:00 PM  Hawai'i Bowl              Middle Tennessee State v. San Diego State

December 26   2:30 PM  Cherry Bowl               New Mexico State v. Bowling Green
              
December 27  12:00 PM  Camellia Bowl             Georgia Southern v. Buffalo
              3:15 PM  Heart of Dallas Bowl      Memphis v. Utah State
              6:45 PM  Birmingham Bowl           Coastal Carolina v. East Carolina
             10:15 PM  Copper Bowl               Wisconsin v. Oklahoma State

December 28   2:00 PM  Military Bowl             Central Florida v. Duke
              5:30 PM  Liberty Bowl              Kansas v. Arkansas
              8:00 PM  Holiday Bowl              North Carolina v. Oregon
              9:00 PM  Texas Bowl                Texas Tech v. Mississippi

December 29   2:00 PM  Gotham Bowl               Syracuse v. Minnesota
              5:30 PM  Tangerine Bowl            Oklahoma v. Florida State
              9:00 PM  Alamo Bowl                Texas v. Washington

December 30  12:00 PM  Queen City Bowl           Maryland v. NC State
              2:00 PM  Sun Bowl                  Pittsburgh v. UCLA
              3:30 PM  Gator Bowl                Notre Dame v. South Carolina
              4:30 PM  Arizona Bowl              Ohio v. Wyoming

December 31  12:00 PM  Music City Bowl           Iowa v. Kentucky
             
January 2    12:00 PM  Hall of Fame Bowl         Mississippi State v. Illinois
              1:00 PM  Citrus Bowl               LSU v. Purdue
   2. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 04, 2022 at 05:07 PM (#6107893)
Weird placement for the Sugar Bowl, which is guaranteed the post-Rose Bowl slot, but the NFL's dumb 17-game schedule means that's only the penultimate week of the season and there's still Monday Night Football, so it becomes the semifinal lead-in on Saturday.
   3. Karl from NY Posted: December 05, 2022 at 03:21 PM (#6108101)
In a bit of cool cosmic coincidence, both of the teams in the Orange Bowl wear orange.
   4. Zach Posted: December 05, 2022 at 08:08 PM (#6108155)
If you had KU going to a bowl before the season began, step up to receive your prize.

Yes sir, right there in the tent labeled "Filthy Liars". No need to rush, there are enough prizes for everyone.
   5. Brian White Posted: December 05, 2022 at 10:17 PM (#6108169)
So Anthony Richardson is declaring for the draft (insert your own joke about how he's leaving before NFL teams get more video of him). And UF's primary backup this season won't be playing in the bowl because, well, he's just not, no reason to go looking up the reason why or anything.

And they're playing a pretty superior team anyway in Oregon State. That game might get ugly.
   6. smileyy Posted: December 06, 2022 at 12:35 AM (#6108191)
And UF's primary backup this season won't be playing in the bowl because, well, he's just not, no reason to go looking up the reason why or anything.


No point getting hurt in a game you're not getting paid to play.
   7. It's Spelled With a CFBF, But Not Where You Think Posted: December 06, 2022 at 12:39 AM (#6108192)
No point getting hurt in a game you're not getting paid to play.


Yep, precisely. This is exactly why Jalen Kitna won't play in the bowl game.
   8. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 16, 2022 at 12:04 PM (#6109728)
The Bahamas Bowl is supposed to be the weird game to look forward to when suffering through the pre-Christmas dregs, and I don't like that it now seems to have taken up permanent residence the day before the overloaded Saturday slate that has typically kicked off bowl season.
   9. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 16, 2022 at 03:05 PM (#6109763)
Kind of a lackluster game, with UAB being the obviously better team, picking up 30-40 yards on seemingly every possession but rarely finishing, while letting Miami cash in its only two successful drives and gifting another touchdown with a muff inside the five.

But, oh, the finish!

Trailing 20-17 with 1:34 left, UAB faced 4th-and-1 at the Miami 12 and went for it, opening a gigantic hole and scoring on a run up the middle. Then Miami converted two fourth downs and got a facemask with a second left that moved the ball to the 15, only to throw short of the goal line on the final play and get Kevin Dysoned.

And then Steve Levy had to oversell it, calling it perhaps the greatest Bahamas Bowl ever, as though the craziest finish in the history of sports didn't happen on this field eight years ago.
   10. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 16, 2022 at 06:53 PM (#6109802)
UTSA-Troy was supposed to be about the best pre-Christmas matchup, but it turned out to be a shitshow.

Troy won despite 153 total yards. And it's not like it was picking up 17 yards and punting and pulling off some field position miracle; there were turnovers and a snap through the end zone for a safety. There's only one way to win with an offensive performance this inept, and it involves the opposition turning the ball over on practically every possession, as UTSA did after going up 12-0. Still had a chance to win after a long run inside the 10 trailing 18-12 with seven minutes left, but it turned the ball over on downs after a drop in the end zone on second down.
   11. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 17, 2022 at 02:16 PM (#6109876)
Keg of Nails was a bust. Sloppy, turnover-laden game decided by like three explosive plays for Louisville.

And it didn't feel like a rivalry game at all, which is a nice reminder of what realignment has taken from us.
   12. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 17, 2022 at 02:17 PM (#6109877)
Deion Branch calls for bringing the rivalry back. Bless this man.
   13. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 17, 2022 at 02:36 PM (#6109880)
Very annoying that Vegas and New Mexico swapped times. Ruins my little table.
   14. It's Spelled With a CFBF, But Not Where You Think Posted: December 17, 2022 at 02:41 PM (#6109882)
I am watching the SRS Distribution Las Vegas Bowl, pretty much exclusively to see how Jack Miller looks. God, that's so sad.
   15. Brian C Posted: December 17, 2022 at 02:52 PM (#6109885)
I am watching the SRS Distribution Las Vegas Bowl, pretty much exclusively to see how Jack Miller looks. God, that's so sad.

Not as sad as Miller's looked so far. Hopefully he's just working through some rust and settles down.

Sad or not, I would have loved to go to this game - first time the Gators have played west of the Rockies in nearly 16 years (the 2006 BCS Championship - when they open next season at Utah, it will be the first regular season game they've played west of the Rockies since a 1983 trip to USC).

But flight costs and work conspired to kill the dream.
   16. It's Spelled With a CFBF, But Not Where You Think Posted: December 17, 2022 at 02:54 PM (#6109886)
Billy, you had a whole fun catchphrase about being willing to take risks, and now you're settling for a 51-yard field goal attempt in the SRS Distribution Las Vegas Bowl?
   17. Brian C Posted: December 17, 2022 at 02:54 PM (#6109887)
I don't know what the over/under was on the number of times Pat McAfee would namedrop Criss Angel during this broadcast, but if it was less than 800K, people who took the under are sweating right now.
   18. It's Spelled With a CFBF, But Not Where You Think Posted: December 17, 2022 at 03:10 PM (#6109891)
A commercial for something called "Dollar Loan Center," which proudly advertises "You don't need a checking account" and "We are not a bank." Can't accuse them of choosing the wrong bowl.
   19. Brian C Posted: December 17, 2022 at 03:51 PM (#6109894)
Man, this Gator offense is not good. At some point, we're going to need to start worrying about the consecutive games without a shutout streak.
   20. It's Spelled With a CFBF, But Not Where You Think Posted: December 17, 2022 at 03:52 PM (#6109895)
Defense has held up reasonably well, all things considered. When you're only gaining two yards in a half on offense....
   21. Brian C Posted: December 17, 2022 at 04:27 PM (#6109899)
If the ball comes out of the QB's hand and flies ten yards downfield, don't you have to call that an incomplete pass, and make replay overturn it? Where did these officials think the momentum came from to make the ball go so far?
   22. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 17, 2022 at 04:37 PM (#6109900)
For the SEC's third-tier tie-ins -- Las Vegas, Liberty, Texas, Music City, Gator, Hall of Fame -- the league office decides who goes where. So that's where I shall direct my blame for not having pairings more like Mississippi-Oregon State and Florida-Texas Tech.
   23. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 17, 2022 at 04:40 PM (#6109901)
Given the combination of fancy new stadium, destination city and SEC/Big Ten tie-in, you'd think this game would move up in the world. Like Alamo Bowl West in terms of status and scheduling.
   24. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 17, 2022 at 04:48 PM (#6109902)
Really, it should be more like Citrus Bowl West. Second pick from the Pac-12 and, preferably, second from the ACC or Big 12 instead of third from the SEC or Big Ten. On New Year's Eve in the Peach Bowl's old slot.

And now I just want to construct one of my own old-school bowl schedules.
   25. Brian C Posted: December 17, 2022 at 05:23 PM (#6109904)
why
   26. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 17, 2022 at 05:24 PM (#6109905)
Credit for going for that instead of trying to break the shutout with a field goal, at least.
   27. Brian C Posted: December 17, 2022 at 05:28 PM (#6109907)
Montrell Johnson with 13 yards on 9 carries ... despite a long of 14 yards. Yikes.

This has been a really uneven season for the Gators, which I don't think surprised any of us. But still, this game is a huge disappointment for me - not even because they're losing, or even losing big. But they're so completely unprepared and uncompetitive, and I didn't expect that. I expected that they probably wouldn't be good enough to win, but it shouldn't be going down like this. This is just sad.
   28. Brian C Posted: December 17, 2022 at 05:33 PM (#6109908)
Credit for going for that instead of trying to break the shutout with a field goal, at least.

Not with that play call. That's exactly the kind of play that has failed for them almost literally every time they've tried it in this game - Miller's scrambling aside, they have 25 rushing yards today on 17 handoffs. Not even averaging what they needed for the first down. Without exaggeration, I'd have rather they just chucked a hail mary into the end zone.

Honestly, it was more of a white flag than a field goal would have been.
   29. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 17, 2022 at 05:43 PM (#6109910)
Boooooooooooooooo
   30. Brian C Posted: December 17, 2022 at 05:44 PM (#6109911)
I don't care, I'm glad they scored.

If there's even a 0.01% chance of coming back, then go for it. But 7 points does exactly as much for you as 3 points when you're down 30 and there's only 42 seconds left.
   31. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 17, 2022 at 05:44 PM (#6109912)
Is this better or worse than the game against FSU where the only points were a safety?
   32. Brian C Posted: December 17, 2022 at 05:48 PM (#6109913)
Better. 3 points on offense > 0 points on offense. Especially against FSU.

Today was awful but it's not close to all-time program-history awful.
   33. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 17, 2022 at 05:52 PM (#6109914)
I expected to be able to barely pay attention to Rice-Southern Miss, which might be the worst bowl matchup in history, but Wazzu has been a no-show against Fresno State. And Jimmy Kimmel is in the booth after having already been interviewed on the field in the first half, so it's even worse than it might at first appear.
   34. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 27, 2022 at 10:28 PM (#6110992)
Perhaps Gold Star knows, but is the Copper Bowl ever moving back to Sun Devil Stadium? It was supposed to be a three-year hiatus while a three-stage renovation took place between seasons, which was then extended to four years when the renovation *gasp* wasn't completed on time. I think we're on year seven.
   35. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: December 28, 2022 at 02:05 AM (#6111018)
I keep waiting for the Copper Bowl to go back to Tucson.
   36. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 28, 2022 at 02:23 AM (#6111019)
Garret Rangel looks like the poor man's Spencer Sanders -- same propensity to mix spectacular plays with boneheaded errors, but whereas Sanders could generally put points on the board between critical mistakes, the Rangel-led Pokes had an 84-yard touchdown and exactly no other production of any kind through three quarters.

But they finally found some life trailing by 17 early in the fourth, and it led to what was maybe the play of bowl season so far. Facing 4th-and-goal from the one, Rangel kept on a zone read and had a defender immediately shoot in and wrap him up around the legs at the five, but as he was going down managed to underhand the ball to the back he'd initially faked to in the end zone.

From there, what had been a ho-hum game managed to at least provide a little suspense, with Okie State again driving inside the 10 before stalling and kicking a field goal, then getting the ball back with three minutes and a chance to tie, only for Rangel to get picked off, after which Wisconsin managed to run out the string.
   37. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: December 28, 2022 at 08:24 AM (#6111028)
In maybe the bowl with the weakest teams, NMSU upset Bowling Green a couple days ago. I was in Las Cruces at the time.
   38. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: December 28, 2022 at 10:38 AM (#6111037)
FPI thinks NMSU and Bowling Green are 121st and 122nd in FBS. Out of 131 teams.

Sagarin has NMSU as a "respectable" 94th, with Bowling Green at 262 (including FCS).

F+ had Bowling Green at 116th and NMSU at 120th.

In all cases these might have been considered the two very weakest teams this year to get a bowl game.

Surprisingly NMSU actually reached, and won, a bowl a few years ago, in 2017. Before that it had been 57 years since their last bowl. Bowling Green has been much more successful in the last few decades, getting a bowl game almost half the time since the 80s. None before that though, despite being around since 1919.
   39. 57i66135 is a hard word for me. Posted: December 28, 2022 at 01:16 PM (#6111058)
low key:

penn state v. utah is a very intriguing matchup.

penn state hasn't beaten anyone this year. but...their only losses are to ohio state and michigan, who are both in the playoff. so there's a real question lingering about how good they actually are. they're not actually good, but are they top 6/7 good? or are they just top 15-20 good.

utah is ranked higher than penn state (8 v. 11), despite having more losses (3 v. 2), and to worse teams (florida, UCLA and oregon v. tosu/mitchigan). but they're also the only team that beat 10th ranked USC this year, and they did it twice.


as someone who is vaguely obsessed with the taxonomic eccentricities of college football, this game actually has a lot of meat in it. i tend to be a "strength of wins" person, which would put utah above penn state. but penn state also played a true road game against an SEC blue blood, which is something that should be rewarded as a way to encourage teams to schedule reasonably competitive non-conference games in the future, even though auburn turned out to be a raging dumpster fire.


anyway, penn state still has 7th year senior sean clifford at QB, so they'll probably lose in an excruciating fashion.
   40. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 28, 2022 at 03:13 PM (#6111068)
You joke about Clifford, but I'd reached a point where I half-remembered him quarterbacking the 2016 team until Trace McSorley popped up in the Cardinals-Broncos game 10 days ago.
   41. 57i66135 is a hard word for me. Posted: December 28, 2022 at 04:01 PM (#6111073)
You joke about Clifford, but I'd reached a point where I half-remembered him quarterbacking the 2016 team until Trace McSorley popped up in the Cardinals-Broncos game 10 days ago.
you joke about mcsorley, but i'd reached a point where i half-remembered clifford quarterbacking the 2012 team until matt mcgloin popped up in my head.


also: mcsorley actually won big games (tosu/B1G championship/rose bowl), which is something that clifford, in his 16th year of eligibility, has still yet to do a single time.
   42. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 28, 2022 at 04:32 PM (#6111077)
"Duke 15 minutes away from its first bowl win in four years" lacks a certain something after all those years of "Duke hasn't won a bowl since the nineteen-dickety-two Cotton Bowl."
   43. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 28, 2022 at 09:07 PM (#6111113)
Kansas's defense was a complete no-show in the first half, which might've been survivable if Daniels hadn't thrown two interceptions while driving. Arkansas's offense then went dormant after taking a 38-13 lead, and Kansas got the ball twice trailing 38-23 only to punt and turn the ball over on downs. Arkansas fumbled with a chance to run out the clock, and Kansas scored what seemed like a garbage touchdown with a minute left...

...but it just recovered an onside kick and is 50 yards and a two-point conversion from tying.
   44. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 28, 2022 at 09:11 PM (#6111115)
21-yard touchdown with 41 seconds left, and the two-point try is good!
   45. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 28, 2022 at 09:47 PM (#6111123)
Kansas got the first possession of overtime and went for 4th-and-goal from the two, with Daniels scrambling and flipping the ball over the approaching defenders to Casey, the fullback who scored to beat Texas last year. Arkansas's offense then woke up, scoring with ease.

Arkansas then scored with ease to open the second overtime, also making the two-point conversion to lead by eight. Kansas faced 2nd-and-17 after a hold, then on 3rd-and-6 Daniels had all day to stand in the pocket, with a receiver finally coming open for a completion to the two. Daniels scored on a quarterback sweep, then ran again on the two-point attempt and was met by three defenders at the one, but the game was kept alive by a targeting (crown of the helmet) call, giving Kansas a second chance from the one, which was converted with another pass to Casey in the flat.

So we go to penalty kicks.
   46. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 28, 2022 at 09:49 PM (#6111125)
While all this was going on, there was a crazy finish to the first half of the Holiday Bowl.

14-14 with Oregon driving, and a Nix pass is broken up, the ball falls behind the defender and hits his calf as his heel is coming up, directing it toward another defender, then off that defender's toe as he's reaching down for it, bouncing it up into his hands. He returns to midfield, from whence Maye throws a touchdown pass with 26 seconds.
   47. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 28, 2022 at 09:54 PM (#6111126)
Arkansas scores on a wheel route, then Kansas calls an end around with a pass option for backup quarterback Jason Bean, who throws the ball through the back of the end zone.

I think he might've scored if he'd run it.
   48. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 28, 2022 at 10:47 PM (#6111134)
The promised track meet in the Holiday Bowl hasn't materialized, with no points scored in the entire third quarter. With 10:30 left, UNC is in position to extend its 21-14 lead, which would stunningly feel like a commanding position.
   49. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 28, 2022 at 11:38 PM (#6111138)
UNC kicked a field goal, gave up a touchdown and kicked another field goal. Oregon drove the length of the field and faced 4th-and-2 from the six and threw a pass to the goal line -- called a touchdown on the field and replay was inconclusive. The extra point for the lead went in on a doink.

UNC wasted its last timeout with the clock stopped after an Oregon incompletion on second down from the eight after letting about 25 seconds come off after the first down run, leaving it with just 19 seconds left to answer, so it ended up having to throw a Hail Mary. There was no Jim McMahon finish.
   50. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 29, 2022 at 01:15 AM (#6111139)
Leading 35-19 in the middle of the fourth, Texas Tech broke a long run that was going to be the final nail, but the ball was punched out from behind at about the two and went through the end zone for a touchback, providing a glimmer of hope for a Mississippi comeback. That glimmer became more of a glow after a touchdown with 3:10 left, but Texas Tech got away with interference on the two-point try, so the lead remained 10. The ensuing onside kick was returned for a touchdown in one of those "everybody going for the recovery overruns the ball" scenarios, and that was all she wrote.
   51. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: December 29, 2022 at 01:32 AM (#6111140)
The Oregon-UNC game wasn't stellar football, but it was entertaining. Maye seemed to make a bunch of fantastic throws, but his final line was really pedestrian (18 -35 for 206, but he would have finished under 200 yards if not for the two prevent D completions at the end), while Nix seemed to make a ton of poor throws, but actually finished a respectable 23-30. I thought Oregon was dead when UNC went up by two scores in the 4th, but there must have been some magic in that ol' right arm of Nix.

The 10-3 record for Lanning in his first season looks pretty good, except losing to our two rivals really sucks, especially when both should have been wins. I expect the defense to improve next season, but I have no idea what the offense will look like under the new coordinator.
   52. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 29, 2022 at 04:41 PM (#6111210)
Turf quality seems to be pretty bad for all the games played in ballparks.
   53. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 29, 2022 at 05:24 PM (#6111217)
A color guy advocating going for two on the first touchdown when you start out down 15, because it tells you whether you'll need an extra possession if you miss. Progress!
   54. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 29, 2022 at 05:25 PM (#6111218)
I mean progress in the booth. Dino Babers kicked the extra point.
   55. Mike A Posted: December 29, 2022 at 09:12 PM (#6111257)
Cheez-It Bowl Champions! Nobody can ever take that away from us.
   56. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 29, 2022 at 09:13 PM (#6111259)
Oof. Did not like seeing FSU start turtling for a bad kicker after hitting a pass to the 15, neutering an offense that was pushing 600 yards. Fortunate the bad kicker came through and that Oklahoma then frittered away most of the remaining 55 seconds by completing a nine-yard pass, committing a false start with the clock running to trigger a 10-second run-off, then committing a hold.

Noles enter '23 with a championship-worthy offense and a defense that needs to get good enough to keep that offense from getting involved in shootouts with six-win teams.
   57. Mike A Posted: December 29, 2022 at 09:32 PM (#6111263)
Oof. Did not like seeing FSU start turtling for a bad kicker after hitting a pass to the 15
Yeah, that was very questionable. FSU's kicker was an inexplicable 2-5 from 30-39 before that kick.

To be fair, Oklahoma would have had much less time to work with had the FSU player not gotten hurt (which saved OU a timeout). But still...just let Travis go there.

All in all, a fun game with very little defense to be had which has kinda been the norm this year.
   58. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 29, 2022 at 11:33 PM (#6111270)
After the injury, they wound on the ref's signal with a 25-second play clock. Which is a noticeable difference, but the master plan to give the ball back with 40 seconds instead of 55, maybe leading by three, is still really bad. As opposed to really, really.
   59. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 29, 2022 at 11:36 PM (#6111271)
Alamo Bowl has been pretty ugly. The offenses are sputtering, more due to self-inflicted gunshot wounds to the groin than anything the defenses are doing. Though Washington's been pretty stout against the run.
   60. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 30, 2022 at 03:58 PM (#6111360)
Maryland turtles leading 16-12 inside three minutes. Because an offense surely can't travel 75 yards in 2:34 if it's been robbed of its timeouts.

But NC State immediately validates the decision by chucking a ball up for grabs on the first play to effectively end the game.

In other Fraidy Cat Decision news, Doeren decided to kick on 4th-and-goal from the two, 4th-and-4 from the 21 and, most unforgivably, 4th-and-3 from the nine while trailing 13-9 in the middle of the fourth quarter.
   61. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 30, 2022 at 05:38 PM (#6111386)
Pitt had no luck even slowing down UCLA's offense into the third quarter but was the recipient of two red zone interceptions, while Pitt's offense also moved the ball but stalled and kicked two field goals, so it was 21-14 until Patti overthrew a bubble screen and got it returned for a touchdown.

After a Pitt touchdown to get within 28-21, Thompson-Robinson threw a bad pick in his own end that set up the Panthers at the 18, and they punched it in to tie the game. Kicking off into a stiff breeze, the ball came down at the 14 and UCLA muffed it, with Pitt recovering at the 19, leading to a go-ahead field goal. UCLA moved forward for the subsequent kick, but this one managed to carry to the three and land uncaught, forcing UCLA to dive on it.

Thompson-Robinson evidently got hurt on the third interception, so with his backup pinned deep, UCLA was rather turtly, leading to a punt that gave Pitt the ball in UCLA territory. With six minutes left, Pitt had a deep post for a touchdown and 10-point lead that was flat dropped. The drive progressed inside the five, but Patti had consecutive passes batted down at the line, so Pitt has just kicked a field goal to go up 34-28.

4:24 left for Ethan Garbers to play hero.
   62. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: December 30, 2022 at 06:05 PM (#6111388)
That was the dumbest defense I've ever seen played. UCLA scores to go up one with 34 seconds left and Pitt with no timeouts and the ball at the 25. Severe prevent defense:

Play 1: 17-yard completion to the sideline, out of bounds.

Play 2: 29 seconds left. 15-yard completion to the middle of the field.

Play 3: Spike the ball, 20 seconds left. Ball at the UCLA 40.

Play 4: QB scramble up the middle - all UCLA has to do is bring him down short of the first down line and the game is over, but the linebacker attempts the worst tackle I've ever seen and they get a first down to temporarily stop the clock.

Play 5: Spike. 10 seconds left.

Play 6: FG is good. Ball game.

Just a master class in how not to play defense at the end of the game.
   63. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 30, 2022 at 09:12 PM (#6111409)
Gotta disagree about it being monumentally inept defense.

The first play was a strong throw to the hole in the zone between the corner and safety. The second was a catch by a receiver with a defender draped all over him.

On the scramble, Patti was initially angled toward the sideline, and the linebacker was selling out to beat him there and lost his feet when Patti turned upfield. Then as Patti was attempting to skip past the linebacker, he was hit from the left by a pursuing lineman, and that hit was counteracted just enough by a shoulder from the lunging linebacker to keep Patti from falling to his right, allowing him to keep his feet beneath him just well enough to dive for the sticks. A huge risk that worked out because of an accident of timing, really.
   64. Pirate Joe Posted: December 30, 2022 at 09:59 PM (#6111414)
The second was a catch by a receiver with a defender draped all over him.



To the point that the announcers couldn't believe that he actually caught the ball.

   65. Brian White Posted: December 30, 2022 at 11:07 PM (#6111423)
Clemson's offense on first and second down: A perfectly competent offense that can pick up some yards
Clemson on third down: Pretty bad
Clemson on fourth down: Yikes
   66. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 31, 2022 at 12:43 PM (#6111451)
Deuce Vaughn with an 88-yard touchdown, and if not for a blind throw on the first drive by Howard, K-State would really be putting it to Alabama.

10-0 as it is.
   67. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 31, 2022 at 12:52 PM (#6111454)
Iowa-Kentucky going about how you'd expect, with no score after a quarter. Iowa getting the better of the field position, so a mere first down or two away from a possible field goal attempt.
   68. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 31, 2022 at 01:01 PM (#6111456)
Blink your eyes, and Alabama's ahead.
   69. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 31, 2022 at 01:03 PM (#6111457)
Meanwhile, Iowa makes use of the short field to score *gasp* an offensive touchdown (tight ends were involved), then returns an interception for what feels like an insurmountable 14-0 lead.
   70. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 31, 2022 at 01:20 PM (#6111462)
What the #### are you watching if a defender can pull a receiver's helmet off and throw it right in front of you without drawing a penalty?
   71. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 31, 2022 at 02:08 PM (#6111465)
K-State has a 10-minute drive, Howard throws wide of the mark on what should've been a touchdown on 4th-and-goal from the two, and Alabama goes 98 yards to score before the half to lead 21-10. Surprise onside kick to open the second half that Alabama is not surprised by, and Young promptly throws a touchdown. The game is over in a span of about 2:30.
   72. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 31, 2022 at 02:11 PM (#6111466)
And for good measure, Howard throws a pick deep in his end, and Alabama scores on the next play.
   73. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 31, 2022 at 04:23 PM (#6111471)
It's fourth down. Feel free to throw the ball -- chuck it into the ground in front of McCarthy if you have to -- instead of just eating it for a big loss. Half the benefit of going for it on the goal line is pinning the opposition if you fail.
   74. 57i66135 is a hard word for me. Posted: December 31, 2022 at 04:27 PM (#6111472)
Rich Hoffman @rich_hofmann
I love that we live in a world where Philly Special gets identified on the fly by announcers during football broadcasts.

   75. 57i66135 is a hard word for me. Posted: December 31, 2022 at 04:40 PM (#6111473)
surely, the big ten will win one of these BCS playoff games. surely.
   76. 57i66135 is a hard word for me. Posted: December 31, 2022 at 05:02 PM (#6111477)
surely.
   77. It's Spelled With a CFBF, But Not Where You Think Posted: December 31, 2022 at 05:21 PM (#6111478)
One of the consistent issues with replay across multiple sports is the inconsistency of how "indisputable video evidence" is defined. Sometimes it seems to be 100-percent clarity, beyond a shadow of a doubt, absolutely no disagreement conceivable...and sometimes it seems to be "yeah, that's probably wrong." I'm really hard pressed to see how that Michigan TD catch deserved to be overturned under the first standard.
   78. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: December 31, 2022 at 05:23 PM (#6111479)
Definitely not. To me it looked like a touchdown under any standard though.
   79. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: December 31, 2022 at 06:05 PM (#6111483)
The inconsistency of video review makes it no better than not having it. The video on that play showed "eh, maybe he was down short." Not even probably.
   80. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: December 31, 2022 at 06:21 PM (#6111485)
Killer turnovers and not finishing drives... good way to lose.
   81. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 31, 2022 at 06:22 PM (#6111486)
I continue to be mystified by Michigan on the goal line. Think you should, I don't know, run play action out of your heavy sets? Or run the ball from spreads? Like, ever?
   82. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: December 31, 2022 at 06:56 PM (#6111488)
TCU has moved the ball a lot easier than I expected. 240 yards rushing in 3 quarters? That's not something I would have expected at all.
   83. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: December 31, 2022 at 07:02 PM (#6111490)
That quarter was pretty wild.
   84. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: December 31, 2022 at 07:10 PM (#6111491)
This is a very unusual game, man.
   85. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 31, 2022 at 07:16 PM (#6111492)
TCU's offense hadn't actually done that much until Michigan started selling out and getting burned. You could see the logic of getting ultra-aggressive when far behind, but to keep it up after getting within three with lots of time left, after it has proven a failure?
   86. It's Spelled With a CFBF, But Not Where You Think Posted: December 31, 2022 at 07:26 PM (#6111493)
The sound you're hearing is me booing that third and seven run up the middle.
   87. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 31, 2022 at 07:27 PM (#6111494)
Turtly.
   88. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 31, 2022 at 07:28 PM (#6111495)
TCU's offense hadn't actually done that much until Michigan started selling out and getting burned. You could see the logic of getting ultra-aggressive when far behind, but to keep it up after getting within three with lots of time left, after it has proven a failure?

To wit, TCU's three touchdowns in the second half have been powered by plays of 46, 69 and 76. Before that, the longest play was the 32-yard pass to Johnston when the corner blitzed and no one covered him, and the only other play of even 15 yards was a 21-yard pass to Hudson in the first quarter.
   89. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 31, 2022 at 07:54 PM (#6111499)
Not calling timeout after TCU got the first down is correct, but there was no reason not to call them after the first and second plays.

If Michigan had gotten the stop on the first set of downs, it would've thrown away almost 80 seconds for no reason.
   90. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 31, 2022 at 08:02 PM (#6111500)
A fitting end.


TCU, for the love of Christ, keep the magic going for one more game.
   91. 57i66135 is a hard word for me. Posted: December 31, 2022 at 08:12 PM (#6111501)
75. 57i66135 is a hard word for me. Posted: December 31, 2022 at 04:40 PM (#6111473)
surely, the big ten will win one of these BCS playoff games. surely.
76. 57i66135 is a hard word for me. Posted: December 31, 2022 at 05:02 PM (#6111477)
surely.

   92. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 31, 2022 at 09:18 PM (#6111503)
I guess I would prefer Georgia win, but I can't say I'm torn up about how things are going for this year's Ken Dorsey Memorial Wholly Undeserving Heisman Finalist recipient.
   93. Meatwad Posted: December 31, 2022 at 09:55 PM (#6111504)
So far we finally have a playoff semi final round with 2 good games.
   94. Meatwad Posted: December 31, 2022 at 11:01 PM (#6111506)
Cant believe they didnt confirm the targeting call.
   95. 57i66135 is a hard word for me. Posted: December 31, 2022 at 11:40 PM (#6111507)
surely ...
   96. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 31, 2022 at 11:49 PM (#6111508)
They're probably gonna regret running hurry-up on the previous play. Because 54 seconds is a lot of time.
   97. Brian C Posted: January 01, 2023 at 12:03 AM (#6111509)
Not really fair to make fun of the college kicker from 50 yards out, but man ... not really a lot of kicks that are more off than that. He looked like a guy with a 40-yard range trying to force 10 extra yards into it.
   98. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: January 01, 2023 at 12:19 AM (#6111510)
Reminiscent of Nebraska's kick at the end of the '94 Orange Bowl.
   99. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: January 01, 2023 at 12:24 AM (#6111512)
Really fun day of CFB, I think this is what they had in min$ when they sai$they wanted to own New Years Eve.
   100. Howie Menckel Posted: January 01, 2023 at 12:24 AM (#6111513)
two classics that match the 2022 NFL model - lots of coaching blunders and refereeing blunders, but it all makes for tremendous entertainment, so sure why not.

I think they are still reviewing whether that game ended in 2022 or 2023, lol.

now, 6 months ago or so, Ohio lawmakers decided it would be a great idea to launch legal sportsbooks in the state at midnight on Dec. 31/Jan. 1. no, I am not kidding.

the sportsbooks likely were pissed - until those two games. the whole state would have bet against Michigan - and won - and for Ohio State - and won (on the point spread, anyway), and the books would be bathing in red ink.

NH lost millions when first major legal event was Patriots winning their most recent Super Bowl.
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