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Tuesday, November 02, 2021

OT - November* 2021 College Football thread

* 30 days hath November, except in the college football thread where it runs through Championship Week, after which the calendar flips to the Bowl Spectacular.

Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 02, 2021 at 07:24 PM | 525 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   301. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: November 27, 2021 at 02:32 PM (#6054837)
That was some joyfully terrible tackling by Florida State on 3rd and 21.
   302. Brian C Posted: November 27, 2021 at 02:38 PM (#6054838)
Without seeing the replay, I can't imagine this INT will stand.

... still a nice play for having the WR draped all over him. Amazing what they'll call as PI but that apparently goes.

... NICE

   303. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: November 27, 2021 at 02:39 PM (#6054839)
Great coverage by Marshall, whether it's an interception or not. Got his head turned around, made a play on the ball without committing PI.
   304. Brian C Posted: November 27, 2021 at 02:43 PM (#6054840)
Meanwhile news is solidifying that Napier is the guy for UF. Looks like tomorrow for an announcement. Might watch the Cajuns game after this one.
   305. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 02:45 PM (#6054841)
Going to the fourth, Ohio State facing 4th-and-4 at the Michigan 15. Just picked up 3rd-and-19 on what was a questionable catch upheld on review.
   306. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: November 27, 2021 at 02:49 PM (#6054842)
Assuming backing a dump truck full of money to Lincoln Riley's house wasn't an option (seems to be what LSU is doing), Napier seems like a really solid choice.
   307. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: November 27, 2021 at 02:51 PM (#6054843)
Most bad-ass personal foul penalty in the history of Florida football.
   308. Brian C Posted: November 27, 2021 at 02:53 PM (#6054844)
I will admit - I knew that a play was dead when someone loses their helmet, but I didn't know it was a personal foul to keep going. That seems like a ridiculous rule.
   309. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: November 27, 2021 at 02:55 PM (#6054845)
If (when?) Michigan loses this game, that conversion by OSU will haunt them.
   310. Brian C Posted: November 27, 2021 at 02:55 PM (#6054846)
Assuming backing a dump truck full of money to Lincoln Riley's house wasn't an option (seems to be what LSU is doing), Napier seems like a really solid choice.

I'm not sure that Riley isn't a better fit for LSU anyway.

Will be hilarious if LSU misses out on Riley and has to settle for Bill O'Brien. Seems like that's the nightmare scenario circulating among LSU fans and I'm definitely rooting for it.
   311. Brian C Posted: November 27, 2021 at 02:57 PM (#6054847)
I'm extremely happy for Pierce that he got a chance to convert the TD after all. Feel like Mullen would have given it to Davis just out of principle.
   312. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:04 PM (#6054848)
I'm not sure Michigan will OSU anymore but I am not sure OSU can stop Michigan's run game anymore.
   313. Brian C Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:04 PM (#6054849)
I just noticed that the ESPN promotional team has gotten so lazy that they have a CBB tournament this week called the "ESPN Events Invitational".
   314. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:05 PM (#6054850)
Michigan answers Ohio State's 17-play touchdown drive by just continuing to pound the rock. 35-20 with 9:14 left.
   315. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:09 PM (#6054852)
This OSU receivers are insane. They are making incredible grabs.
   316. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:19 PM (#6054854)
Ohio State hanging on by its fingernails.
   317. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:19 PM (#6054855)
Man, FSU down 10 with seven minutes left, goes run-sack-run, then punts it away. That's some weak playcalling.
   318. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:20 PM (#6054856)
You can't punt trailing by 10 with five minutes left. What the hell, FSU?
   319. Brian C Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:21 PM (#6054857)
In FSU's defense, they're just playing out the string with an interim coach.

No, wait ... that's us.
   320. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:22 PM (#6054858)
Michigan selling out on these third and fourth downs has had less than optimal results.
   321. Bret Sabermatrician Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:23 PM (#6054859)
So what does the math say down 35-26 with 5 minutes left? Id rather go for 2 so I know if I need 1 or 2 scores, instead of going for 1 and having it hang on a 2 point conversation in the last minute.
   322. Brian C Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:25 PM (#6054860)
So what does the math say down 35-26 with 5 minutes left? Id rather go for 2 so I know if I need 1 or 2 scores, instead of going for 1 and having it hang on a 2 point conversation in the last minute.

The math says you need 9 points. The rest is just game-theory circle-jerking.
   323. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:27 PM (#6054861)
Michigan is simply running it down the OSU throats right now. They have a pretty good kicker as well. Another first down and FG might be enough.

EDIT: Or, Hassan Hawkins for the touchdown.

OSU just let them score after another big run.
   324. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:29 PM (#6054862)
Manballing the hell out of the four-minute drill.
   325. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:32 PM (#6054863)
No one tell Jordan Travis that short scrambles aren't very helpful right now.
   326. Brian C Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:33 PM (#6054864)
At this point - and I know that I'm saying this under duress - but I'd be happy for the Gators to hire RGIII as their coach just so I don't have to listen to him as a broadcaster anymore.
   327. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:35 PM (#6054865)
As a Michigan fan, this win is cathartic.

Michigan just bullyballed OSU today. OSU pass offense was amazing but their defense did not stop the run at all.
   328. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:36 PM (#6054866)
Time to root for Minnesota.
   329. Mike A Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:38 PM (#6054867)
If there's one thing Seminole and Gator fans can agree on, it's RG3.
   330. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:40 PM (#6054868)
I always enjoy when the officials thank the clock operator for resetting the clock. So polite.
   331. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:43 PM (#6054870)
Griffin with the surprisingly astute and accurate analysis of the incomplete pass there.
   332. Snowboy Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:46 PM (#6054871)
Biggest-best game of Aidan Hutchinson's life. He was born and raised in Michigan, three sacks today, set the school single season record, they finally win.

But also the Michigan O line was the boss today. As Russlan says, Michigan ran all day.
   333. Brian C Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:49 PM (#6054873)
The studio guy has a point - this game might never end.
   334. . . . . . . Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:52 PM (#6054874)
I am so happy. I am just so happy.
   335. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:52 PM (#6054875)
This last 1:30 has been longer than an Avengers movie.
   336. Brian C Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:55 PM (#6054877)
Whatever my complaints about RGIII, he's a frickin' genius compared to his halfwit play-by-play partner. 44 seconds left - "Onside kick here?"
   337. Brian C Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:56 PM (#6054878)
Good lord, what the #### what that?
   338. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 03:57 PM (#6054879)
Yeah, that's an appropriate way for FSU's season to end.
   339. Brian C Posted: November 27, 2021 at 04:01 PM (#6054880)
Well, closer than it needed to be at the end, but I'm a happy Gator. Win over FSU, new coach on the way ... things are looking up.
   340. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: November 27, 2021 at 04:11 PM (#6054881)
Michigan v Finland next week.
   341. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 04:22 PM (#6054883)
Okay, that got a legitimate guffaw.
   342. Mike A Posted: November 27, 2021 at 04:23 PM (#6054884)
I'm just going to assume Lucy pulled that football away at the last second. Oh, Seminoles, it's been a year.
   343. Brian C Posted: November 27, 2021 at 04:29 PM (#6054885)
The Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns with touchdowns on each of their first two drives, consisting of a cumulative 10 plays for 150 yards, and are up 14-3.
   344. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 04:48 PM (#6054886)
UTSA getting trucked by North Texas.
   345. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 04:55 PM (#6054888)
Auburn's offense looking completely lost without Nix until the middle of the second quarter, when a 29-yard jump ball and a screen to the perimeter break through. 7-0, as Alabama's offense continues to regress.

And Jameson Williams got popped for targeting while covering the punt that preceded the drive.
   346. McCoy Posted: November 27, 2021 at 05:03 PM (#6054890)
The skies are parting for the Irish.
   347. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: November 27, 2021 at 05:33 PM (#6054892)
Auburn is just mauling Alabama's offensive line. I think they're up to five sacks already.
   348. Meatwad Posted: November 27, 2021 at 05:34 PM (#6054893)
ND still has to worry about the big 12 winner, but they have a good shot to make the playoffs.
   349. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 06:33 PM (#6054899)
51:16 for Alabama to get on the board.
   350. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 06:43 PM (#6054900)
Finley's imploding. An interception to set up Alabama's field goal, another interception undone by a roughing call, then a ball thrown nowhere near a receiver that was almost picked again.
   351. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 06:51 PM (#6054903)
STUFFFFFED!
   352. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 06:56 PM (#6054904)
YOU CANNOT GO OUT OF BOUNDS!
   353. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:07 PM (#6054906)
Young threw the ball into the ground from the pocket on second down.
   354. McCoy Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:07 PM (#6054907)
Should have been delay of game
   355. McCoy Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:08 PM (#6054908)
Jesus
   356. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:09 PM (#6054909)
Quarterback made a lot of great decisions on that drive.
   357. Brian C Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:09 PM (#6054910)
Young threw the ball into the ground from the pocket on second down.

Nah, he was hit as he threw the ball.
   358. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:09 PM (#6054911)
One decent drive all game for Alabama, and it comes with 2:00 left in the game and starting from the three-yard line.
   359. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:13 PM (#6054912)
Auburn only has 141 yards of offense. Pretty lucky to have a lead the whole game in the first place, though to be fair, they played extremely well considering the expectation coming in. Have to think Alabama is pretty heavily favored now, though.

edit: it's about 65-70% for Alabama at the moment.
   360. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:21 PM (#6054913)
Grabbing any hole in the helmet *is* a foul.
   361. McCoy Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:24 PM (#6054914)
Shocked
   362. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:24 PM (#6054915)
What are the odds of Auburn making a 2-point conversion against Alabama today? If it's 1 in 3 or more they should have gone for it.
   363. McCoy Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:30 PM (#6054916)
No TD
   364. McCoy Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:37 PM (#6054918)
That's gonna be it
   365. McCoy Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:38 PM (#6054919)
Shocked
   366. Meatwad Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:40 PM (#6054920)
####, Auburn blew it.
   367. McCoy Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:43 PM (#6054921)
I wonder if this allows Cincinnati to jump over Alabama
   368. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:46 PM (#6054922)
I don't know that it matters. If Alabama beats Georgia they'll almost certainly be ranked over Cincinnati, and if they lose they almost certainly won't (unless Cincinnati also loses, which makes it moot).
   369. Brian C Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:48 PM (#6054923)
What are the odds of Auburn making a 2-point conversion against Alabama today? If it's 1 in 3 or more they should have gone for it.

I think it should be mandatory that the second team to score a TD should have to go for two in OT. Would shorten these games, make them more exciting, and put a lot more strategy into the coin toss just for good measure.

At any rate, playing for the tie in OT when you're heavy underdogs is shameful cowardice and Auburn deserved to lose.
   370. McCoy Posted: November 27, 2021 at 07:51 PM (#6054925)
Yep.
   371. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: November 27, 2021 at 08:00 PM (#6054927)
If OK St. beats OU twice, are they in the playoff? 538 certainly seems to think so, no matter what else happens.

edit: oh whoops I guess they play Baylor if they beat OU today. But same question.
   372. stanmvp48 Posted: November 27, 2021 at 08:05 PM (#6054928)
"At any rate, playing for the tie in OT when you're heavy underdogs is shameful cowardice and Auburn deserved to lose."

Especially when you have such a good play; the tight end throw back.
   373. stanmvp48 Posted: November 27, 2021 at 08:09 PM (#6054931)
And Ohio St should have tried an onside kick after their last score. Michigan ran the ball back to the 38 anyway.
   374. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 08:10 PM (#6054932)
If OK St. beats OU twice and Baylor, are they in the playoff? 538 certainly seems to think so, no matter what else happens.

We have no way of knowing. Pokes are behind Georgia barring a bus crash and Michigan if it wins. Behind Alabama if it beats Georgia. I would bet money they jump Notre Dame. But, while I wouldn't put it past the committee to drop Cincinnati, it's not something we know will happen with certainty.
   375. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: November 27, 2021 at 08:17 PM (#6054933)
Chryst showing his colors again, lined up to punt on 4th and 1, down 10 with four minutes to go. UW had a false start to make it 4th and 6 and they ended up going for it.
   376. Howie Menckel Posted: November 27, 2021 at 09:01 PM (#6054939)
So what does the math say down 35-26 with 5 minutes left? Id rather go for 2 so I know if I need 1 or 2 scores, instead of going for 1 and having it hang on a 2 point conversation in the last minute.

well, that's two of us.

announcers hate the idea, possibly because they want the game to seem to be in the balance for as long as possible. missing the 2-pointer and being down 35-26 is liable to send fickle fans game-shopping on other channels.
   377. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 09:58 PM (#6054948)
Oklahoma State imploding since being up 24-17 with the ball.
   378. Meatwad Posted: November 27, 2021 at 10:00 PM (#6054949)
Imploding today is fine as long as they win next weekend. Basically I dont care who wins today as long as they lose the conference title game.
   379. and Posted: November 27, 2021 at 10:08 PM (#6054950)
The rule of bedlam is: OSU never wins when it means something to them. If OU wins tonight, they’ll win next week. And I’d guess that puts them in the playoff. I’m not sure OSU gets in even if they win the conference with one loss. Names count in this silly system.
   380. Meatwad Posted: November 27, 2021 at 10:24 PM (#6054953)
Osu would make it if they won tonight and next week, ND doesnt have a conference title it can win.
   381. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 10:29 PM (#6054954)
LSU with an 85-yard drive capped by a 28-yard touchdown pass to go up 27-24 with 20 seconds left.
   382. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: November 27, 2021 at 10:35 PM (#6054957)
That sure looked like a touchdown to me.
   383. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 11:09 PM (#6054958)
It absolutely drives me crazy when teams go for two to try taking a six-point lead with more than like a minute left. What are the chances this game comes down to Oklahoma missing an extra point? Almost nil. Being up five rather than four is a large advantage -- you give up a touchdown with more than a few seconds left, and Oklahoma is going for two and likely giving you the ball at 39-38 with a chance to win with a field goal. Up four, a touchdown puts you behind 40-37 99% of the time.
   384. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 11:17 PM (#6054959)
The saving ankle tackle!

If Williams had thrown the ball away on third down instead of taking a loss, he probably gets the first down.
   385. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 11:24 PM (#6054961)
That's inexcusable. With that little time left and that far to go, there's no reason to be playing man against a mobile quarterback.
   386. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 27, 2021 at 11:26 PM (#6054962)
Whew.
   387. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: November 27, 2021 at 11:29 PM (#6054963)
Well that was exciting. More exciting than it needed to be probably.
   388. Howie Menckel Posted: November 27, 2021 at 11:34 PM (#6054964)
It absolutely drives me crazy when teams go for two to try taking a six-point lead with more than like a minute left. What are the chances this game comes down to Oklahoma missing an extra point? Almost nil. Being up five rather than four is a large advantage -- you give up a touchdown with more than a few seconds left, and Oklahoma is going for two and likely giving you the ball at 39-38 with a chance to win with a field goal. Up four, a touchdown puts you behind 40-37 99% of the time.

in unrelated news (it actually is), the most widely-offered point spread in this game that I saw was Ok St -4.
so not taking the free extra point in what winds up as a 37-33 win........

take it as a sign that the players and coaches still - even in this new era - really don't give a crap about "the spread," which strikes me as a good thing.
   389. and Posted: November 28, 2021 at 12:13 AM (#6054965)
Well, it was definitely more exciting than it should have been but it’s very nice to finally win one of those when it mattered for us. Or maybe that’s just my feeling in a lopsided rivalry. We beat OU in 2011 to win the conference.

There is a chance that’s the last Bedlam game played in Stillwater for a while so happy to win for that reason, too.

Basically happy right now.
   390. Meatwad Posted: November 28, 2021 at 01:01 AM (#6054966)
Thats a good feeling bunyon, however I will be cheering for Baylor next week but if you win you deserve to be in the playoffs.
   391. and Posted: November 28, 2021 at 08:56 AM (#6054971)
Fair, Meatwad. We all root for our teams.

My guess is #5, at least, is going to have a really good argument to be in.
   392. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: November 28, 2021 at 10:10 AM (#6054978)
Assuming Michigan beats Iowa next week (which is not guaranteed, Iowa has only 2-losses and Michigan may have en emotional letdown), they are probably a #2 or #3 seed, right?
   393. Meatwad Posted: November 28, 2021 at 12:54 PM (#6054993)
Yeah I would say winning the big 10 gets them the 2 seed. I can see them leaving cinci at 4 no matter what happens so they have to face Georgia first.
   394. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: November 28, 2021 at 02:00 PM (#6054995)
Multiple reporters are now saying it's Napier to UF. Just waiting for the tweet from the football program with the lone helmet sitting on the grass, followed by a hastily photoshopped headshot of Napier in a Gator polo shirt.
   395. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: November 28, 2021 at 03:49 PM (#6055011)
And Lincoln Riley is indeed leaving Oklahoma...for USC.
   396. Meatwad Posted: November 28, 2021 at 04:25 PM (#6055016)
Really surprises at that move. Wonder who heads to Oklahoma next.
   397. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: November 28, 2021 at 05:49 PM (#6055028)
Frankly, I would never be surprised by any non-geriatric coach going to USC. California has heaps of talent, and the closest programs of comparable stature are 1,200 miles away in Austin and Norman, so you basically get your pick of it. There's no question in my mind it's the best gig.
   398. Brian C Posted: November 28, 2021 at 10:03 PM (#6055079)
Happy with the Napier hire. In fact, I'm way happier about the Napier hire than I was with the Mullen hire, which I remembered being deeply skeptical about. So I looked it up and I said at the time - and I quote - "This is awful news as far as I'm concerned."

(BTW I'm pretty sure that was a different Brian C that said things in that thread like "I'm not hugely worried that he'll completely implode like McElwain ended up doing" and "I wonder if they're not going to look stupid for not giving Norvell a harder look." But then it was definitely me who returned to tell Stiggles how dumb he was to say that you don't need to be a good recruiter if you're in Florida.)
   399. Brian C Posted: November 28, 2021 at 10:22 PM (#6055081)
Also, in non-Gator news, did anyone else notice that BYU practically won the Pac-12 this year? 5-0!
   400. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: November 28, 2021 at 10:44 PM (#6055086)
From that older thread:

As for Mullen...I mean, in a vacuum he's a perfectly defensible hire. But he's not regarded as a particularly dynamic recruiter, and I continue to believe that Florida's biggest problem is a lack of talent. I don't think he'll be a failure. But I worry he'll end up putting Florida on the same path McElwain seemed to be on before he imploded this year: a series of solid, respectable 9 and 10-win seasons without ever really threatening Alabama or the other elite.


I've been more wrong, at least.
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