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OT - November* 2022 College Football thread

The longest month.  This year even longer than usual.


* 30 days hath November, except in the college football thread, where it runs through Championship Week before giving way to the Bowl Spectacular.

Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: October 30, 2022 at 08:08 AM | 440 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   401. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 02:32 PM (#6107773)
And TCU cashes in the opportunity.
   402. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 03:22 PM (#6107782)
Field goal trailing by 11 was kinda lame. Didn't like the 55-yarder on 4th-and-7 in the first quarter either.
   403. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 03:35 PM (#6107783)
You've gotta call a timeout before the two-point try. Duggan is on fumes.
   404. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 04:02 PM (#6107789)
Well, this is bullshit. They scored on third down. We have a replay showing it, no matter how people try to talk themselves into "But is it really indisputable?"
   405. nick swisher hygiene Posted: December 03, 2022 at 04:10 PM (#6107792)
Any of the ball over any part of the (3D) line, correct? Sure looked like it to me...
   406. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 04:42 PM (#6107794)
If the front of the line were a sheet of paper set vertically, the nose of the ball merely touching it would suffice.


Absolute braindead play by LSU. How do you play your whole life and not know a blocked field goal is live?
   407. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 04:47 PM (#6107796)
LSU had been in control to that point, so good to see it get right off the mat with a lightning strike of its own.
   408. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 06:06 PM (#6107803)
Tulane with a 60-yard touchdown to open the second half, extending its lead to 24-7. Cotton Bowl, here they come.
   409. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 06:23 PM (#6107805)
Congratulations to Arkansas guard Steve Korte (1981-82) on being named an SEC Legend.
   410. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 06:23 PM (#6107806)
My absolute favorite part of every college football season.
   411. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 06:33 PM (#6107809)
Nussmeier with a cannon. A cannon he seems eager to aim into traffic, but nevertheless.
   412. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 07:02 PM (#6107811)
UCF with a 49-yard halfback pass to get within 31-21 with 12:26 left.
   413. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 07:36 PM (#6107818)
UCF turns the ball over on downs at midfield trailing 38-28 with under six minutes left, and Tulane promptly scores again to go up 17, and that'll be all she wrote.
   414. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: December 03, 2022 at 08:26 PM (#6107822)
Is there any chance at all that TCU stays in the playoff? 12-1, with an OT loss to the #10 ranked team. Stewart Mandel and others have pointed out that there never been a two-loss team make the playoff…I assume OSU and ‘Bama will slide into the top 4, but we’ll see.
   415. Brian White Posted: December 03, 2022 at 08:29 PM (#6107823)
I would like to apologize to Lance for having other things to do this Saturday, leaving him to carry this thread all by himself. Anyway, I'm sorry I missed the barnburner that was the Big XII title game, and I'm not sorry at all for having missed the snoozefest that was the SEC title game.
   416. Brian White Posted: December 03, 2022 at 08:30 PM (#6107824)
Is there any chance at all that TCU stays in the playoff? 12-1, with an OT loss to the #10 ranked team. Stewart Mandel and others have pointed out that there never been a two-loss team make the playoff…I assume OSU and ‘Bama will slide into the top 4, but we’ll see.


There better be a chance they make the playoff. Who else are you going to put in ahead of TCU? Alabama and their zero quality wins? The desiccated corpse of Tennessee? Someone else?
   417. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 08:46 PM (#6107825)
Clemson goes three-and-out twice, and Klubnik is in.
   418. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 08:51 PM (#6107826)
And Clemson promptly marches down the field and scores.
   419. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 08:57 PM (#6107827)
After a UNC fumble, a throwback to Klubnik gets Clemson inside the five, and Phil Mafah, the passer on the previous play, runs it in.
   420. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 09:05 PM (#6107828)
Purdue fake punt! Called a first down on the field and upheld under review, but I don't think they actually got it.
   421. Meatwad Posted: December 03, 2022 at 09:09 PM (#6107829)
That was a first down, camera showed the ball crossed, not by much though
   422. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 09:26 PM (#6107832)
North Carolina gets a field goal blocked at the end of a 17-play drive, and Klubnik completes a 68-yard pass to the one.

And scores on the zone read a play later.
   423. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 09:36 PM (#6107834)
With the sudden emergence of Loveland, it seems like 12 personnel with Schoonmaker might end up being really, really good for Michigan.
   424. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 09:54 PM (#6107836)
Four possessions with Klubnik, and Clemson has three touchdowns and a field goal on the final play of the half.

24-10
   425. Meatwad Posted: December 03, 2022 at 10:06 PM (#6107839)
Why is ESPN giving Saban the time of day to stump for Alabama
   426. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 10:39 PM (#6107842)
Drake Maye with a terrible pick at the goal line -- almost a Fred Brown-to-James Worthy play -- returned for a touchdown. Adding insult to injury, Clemson fakes the extra point to go up 32-10.
   427. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 11:19 PM (#6107846)
Kicking a field goal down 12 is...curious.
   428. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 03, 2022 at 11:23 PM (#6107847)
If you had Hunter Johnson making a garbage time appearance, collect your prize.
   429. Russlan is not Russian Posted: December 04, 2022 at 12:06 AM (#6107852)
Michigan wins 43-22 although that line is flattering, as it was 14-13 at halftime. Purdue actually moved the ball pretty well except in the red zone. That said, Michigan will certainly be the 2nd seed. I expect TCU will be #3 and OSU to be the #4 seed. Michigan should be favored over TCU.
   430. Mike A Posted: December 04, 2022 at 12:26 AM (#6107853)
Why is ESPN giving Saban the time of day to stump for Alabama

When your case for inclusion pushes a win over Austin Peay, you're kind of grasping. Looks like Alabama's half-ass OOC schedule finally came back to bite.
   431. Howie Menckel Posted: December 04, 2022 at 12:46 AM (#6107854)
Saban pitching the "hypothetical point spreads" line seems pretty on point these days

:)

:(
   432. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: December 04, 2022 at 07:59 AM (#6107860)
They should just cancel the semis and let Georgia and Michigan go directly to a championship game.
   433. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: December 04, 2022 at 09:50 AM (#6107862)
They won't put up Michigan against OSU again will they?
   434. It's Spelled With a CFBF, But Not Where You Think Posted: December 04, 2022 at 11:23 AM (#6107867)
With the nation divided over which teams should make the College Football Playoff, there is only one school whose inclusion every college football fan in American can support.

That's right: the Florida Gators are ready to suit up for their playoff berth.
   435. . . . . . . Posted: December 04, 2022 at 11:29 AM (#6107868)
Michigan wins 43-22 although that line is flattering, as it was 14-13 at halftime. Purdue actually moved the ball pretty well except in the red zone. That said, Michigan will certainly be the 2nd seed. I expect TCU will be #3 and OSU to be the #4 seed. Michigan should be favored over TCU.


One of the key rationales behind the two high zone is that it become more effective in the red zone as the gap between the safeties and the box shrinks. Using that as your base makes opponent “yards” and moving the ball less valuable, especially in college where kickers are #collegekickers.

A good example of why public football analytics is woefully limited and incomplete on anything other than the most macro level. The inefficiency in football, paradoxically, is to ignore a lot of what S&P+ and FEI are looking at. Michigan has a team of stats folks who work with the coaching staff on that, as do the Ravens (where this defense strategy was first perfected).
   436. Russlan is not Russian Posted: December 04, 2022 at 12:01 PM (#6107870)
Purdue did run more plays, have the greater time of possession, and more total yards. Michigan this year has typically won those categories, even in games they didn't win by 3 touchdowns. It was a good win against a good but not great team. It is all academic, Michigan is going to be #2 in the CFP, and I think I'd rather play TCU rather than OSU anyhow.
   437. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 04, 2022 at 12:24 PM (#6107871)
Peach:   Ohio State v. Georgia
Fiesta:  TCU v. Michigan
   438. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 04, 2022 at 12:35 PM (#6107872)
What we know based on contractual obligations:

Orange:  Tennessee v. Clemson
Sugar:   Alabama v. Kansas State
Rose:    Penn State v. Utah


Tulane-USC in the Cotton won't be official for two hours, but it's pretty obvious.
   439. Brian C Posted: December 04, 2022 at 10:21 PM (#6107946)
With the nation divided over which teams should make the College Football Playoff, there is only one school whose inclusion every college football fan in American can support.

That's right: the Florida Gators are ready to suit up for their playoff berth.

Come to think of it, over the last two weeks, I haven't seen a single pundit make the case against UF in the playoffs. We can only speculate about why they got passed over by the committee.
   440. Stevey Posted: December 05, 2022 at 10:58 AM (#6108003)
Michigan wins 43-22 although that line is flattering, as it was 14-13 at halftime.


But that is what Michigan has done for the second half of the season. In their last 8 games, they outscored their opponent only 108-87 in the first half and 186-29 in the second.

One of the key rationales behind the two high zone is that it become more effective in the red zone as the gap between the safeties and the box shrinks. Using that as your base makes opponent “yards” and moving the ball less valuable, especially in college where kickers are #collegekickers.

A good example of why public football analytics is woefully limited and incomplete on anything other than the most macro level. The inefficiency in football, paradoxically, is to ignore a lot of what S&P+ and FEI are looking at. Michigan has a team of stats folks who work with the coaching staff on that, as do the Ravens (where this defense strategy was first perfected).


Michigan was the third best team in both yards per game and yards per play allowed. They're fourth in FEI, and rated highly by other similar systems. Michigan looks great by the advanced stats. The idea that Michigan is doing something that isn't picked up by these stats is absolutely bananas.
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