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OT - NBA thread (Playoffs through off-season)

I estimate only 10-12 Primates care about the NBA, and this one only cares about the NBA thread and the Cubs so I have no idea what the rest of the website cares about.

Moses Taylor, glorified meat shield Posted: April 16, 2019 at 02:18 PM | 6831 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1401. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: May 12, 2019 at 08:32 PM (#5841312)
I surely don't detest poor Lonzo Ball.
ball is the same height as kidd, has the same skillset as kidd, is being coached by kidd (is that official yet?). how the hell does simmons get caught in the crossfire if lonzo doesn't?
   1402. TFTIO is building his own mealworm farm Posted: May 12, 2019 at 08:34 PM (#5841314)

ball is the same height as kidd, has the same skillset as kidd, is being coached by kidd (is that official yet?). how the hell does simmons get caught in the crossfire if lonzo doesn't?
... because I'm watching PHI/TOR?
   1403. TFTIO is building his own mealworm farm Posted: May 12, 2019 at 08:36 PM (#5841315)
As long as your all-pass can't-shoot point guard doesn't beat their wife, I won't hate on them?
   1404. Crosseyed and Painless Posted: May 12, 2019 at 08:37 PM (#5841316)
This is Peak Raptors.
   1405. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: May 12, 2019 at 08:37 PM (#5841317)
i think the sixers are making a mistake by not going to boban. embiid isn't making it past the 3P line on half of the sixers offensive possessions, so i think the sixers could get away with playing both of them.

give me 3 minutes of a simmons/ennis/harris/embiid/boban lineup.
   1406. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: May 12, 2019 at 08:38 PM (#5841318)
Both of these teams are playing stupid, terrible basketball. I feel like I am watching the Celtics play the Celtics.
   1407. TFTIO is building his own mealworm farm Posted: May 12, 2019 at 08:40 PM (#5841319)
This is awful.
   1408. spivey Posted: May 12, 2019 at 08:41 PM (#5841320)
I don't see how Portland can beat Golden State, or even really make it that competitive. But making a conference finals is a decent feather in the cap for the Lillard/CJ era.
   1409. spivey Posted: May 12, 2019 at 08:42 PM (#5841322)
These are good teams, so I'm sure they'll play better, but this is not gonna get it done starting next series.
   1410. tshipman Posted: May 12, 2019 at 08:45 PM (#5841325)
I don't see how Portland can beat Golden State, or even really make it that competitive. But making a conference finals is a decent feather in the cap for the Lillard/CJ era.


Well, they could shoot like 60% on 3s for 4 games and Golden State could shoot about 30%. But yeah, on paper it's a mismatch.
   1411. spivey Posted: May 12, 2019 at 08:46 PM (#5841326)
This game is so big for these two franchises. So! Big!
   1412. spivey Posted: May 12, 2019 at 08:49 PM (#5841328)
Well, they could shoot like 60% on 3s for 4 games and Golden State could shoot about 30%. But yeah, on paper it's a mismatch.

Sure. But the non-splash brothers on each team generally are way more switchable and will be able to prevent good looks for Portland than Golden State. I guess there is a level of shooting where it could happen, but I think after a couple of Portland wins Golden State would just tighten the screws so much on defense that the next 2 wins would require other worldly shooting.
   1413. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: May 12, 2019 at 08:50 PM (#5841329)
Both of these teams are playing stupid, terrible basketball. I feel like I am watching the Celtics play the Celtics.

fun fact:
if the sixers wind up axing brett brown because they lose tonight, i kind of hope the sixers hire thibs.

taj gibson and derrick rose would fill two huge needs for the sixers at rock bottom prices. add in a PF (julius randle or thad young), a wing (jeremy lamb or terrence ross), some leftover pork bones, and the sixers would have a pretty fine stew going.
   1414. spivey Posted: May 12, 2019 at 08:54 PM (#5841330)
Tobias Harris cannot post up Kyle Lowry, and cannot take anyone off the dribble.
   1415. spivey Posted: May 12, 2019 at 08:56 PM (#5841331)
Tony Brothers with the UMP SHOW
   1416. spivey Posted: May 12, 2019 at 08:57 PM (#5841332)
Jimmy Butler really is amazing. He isn't Kawhi good, but he's in that next tier.
   1417. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:01 PM (#5841334)
I don’t know how big these are but - yeah. He’s a real asset.
   1418. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:04 PM (#5841335)
that's another one that would get embiid suspended.
   1419. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:07 PM (#5841336)
Tobias Harris cannot post up Kyle Lowry, and cannot take anyone off the dribble.
5/190
   1420. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:12 PM (#5841337)
that is not a smart timeout by TOR.
   1421. JJ1986 Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:17 PM (#5841338)
Why did Kawhi just hand the ball to Jimmy Butts?
   1422. TFTIO is building his own mealworm farm Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:22 PM (#5841339)
Lowry is so good.
   1423. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:25 PM (#5841340)
the sixers offensive execution down the stretch has been extremely impressive. i can't remember the last time i've seen a losing team run the 4-minutes with such strong conviction.
   1424. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:29 PM (#5841342)
...
   1425. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:33 PM (#5841345)
i guess san diego state mailed kawhi his diploma.
   1426. Fourth True Outcome Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:33 PM (#5841346)
Ahahahahahahahahahaha
   1427. spivey Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:33 PM (#5841347)
As Mark Jackson would say: Good defense, better offense.
   1428. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:33 PM (#5841348)
wiped its feet
   1429. Hot Wheeling American Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:33 PM (#5841349)
Bonkers
   1430. TFTIO is building his own mealworm farm Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:34 PM (#5841350)
HOLY SHITBALLS
   1431. JJ1986 Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:34 PM (#5841351)
Oh ####.
   1432. Fourth True Outcome Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:34 PM (#5841352)
What a preposterous ending, goodness!
   1433. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:34 PM (#5841353)
Bonkers.
   1434. JJ1986 Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:34 PM (#5841354)
Ibaka looked like he wanted to tap it in for a second.
   1435. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:35 PM (#5841355)
yeah, but they don't have a confetti cannon, do they?
   1436. phredbird Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:35 PM (#5841356)

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP11!111!!!!
   1437. spivey Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:35 PM (#5841357)
I'm happy for Toronto and Canada.

Toronto/Milwaukee, let's go.
   1438. spivey Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:36 PM (#5841358)
Joel Embiid, he's big. That's great sideline commentary from this lady.
   1439. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:36 PM (#5841359)
I was kinda rooting for Philly, but that 4-bounce game winner was SO much better than a mere swish.
   1440. Hot Wheeling American Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:38 PM (#5841360)
80% sincere question: does Embiid no longer have the flu?
   1441. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:39 PM (#5841361)
   1442. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:39 PM (#5841362)
That was the most emotion I’ve ever seen from Leonard.
   1443. JJ1986 Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:39 PM (#5841363)
Embiid was +10 in 45 minutes!
   1444. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:39 PM (#5841364)
Hollywood needs about 35 takes to get rim action like that.
   1445. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:43 PM (#5841366)
I saw someone compare that to the Allan Houston series winner (which was my 2nd favorite NBA moment as a kid behind the Stockton three), but that's not even close to Kawhi's. One bounce off the rim and drops, while Kawhi's had four bounces on the rim and one off the backboard. I can't remember a game-winner like that, let alone to take a playoff series. Both my wife and I had time to groan after it hit the rim and before it dropped.
   1446. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:44 PM (#5841367)
That "bonk" sound is going to haunt the 76ers all summer.
   1447. Athletic Supporter is USDA certified lean Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:46 PM (#5841368)
I can't remember a more fun sports day to watch where I had no rooting interest. I think the Rams-Titans Super Bowl is probably second. What a great day for the NBA.
   1448. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:47 PM (#5841369)
   1449. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:49 PM (#5841371)
Houston’s shot was a great moment, but yeah they don’t quite compare in level of difficulty. Plus there was no time left when Leonard’s shot dropped, and it was at home. Have really never seen anything like it in a long time.

I will say my first thought when Butler drove was that he was leaving a lot of time on the clock for the Raptors. Not that I blame him, he saw the open lane and he took it. And they forced Kawhi into a very difficult shot.
   1450. jmurph Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:49 PM (#5841372)
Both of these teams are playing stupid, terrible basketball. I feel like I am watching the Celtics play the Celtics.

QFT. That was a terrible game, but thankfully no one will remember because of Kawhi!

Anyway, I'd be a lot happier about that Sixers loss if they weren't definitely winning the lottery Tuesday night.
   1451. Fourth True Outcome Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:57 PM (#5841375)
And they forced Kawhi into a very difficult shot.

This is the part that stuck with me on rewatches. Simmons gave Kawhi nothing, Kawhi used Embiid's double to hit the gas and get just enough space to hit that shot, while fading backwards and to the side. The Sixers really did nothing wrong there, and Kawhi (and the rim) killed them.
   1452. JC in DC Posted: May 12, 2019 at 09:59 PM (#5841376)
Ugh, such awful basketball excepting some great individual performances.

Re Denver. I don't get to watch them much, but man, Jokic is an elite player. Is there any indication he's frustrated out there? Someone asked up thread about his mere 2 assists. I can't tell you how many missed layups, or missed backdoors, or missed cuts his teammates had, where he clearly missed assist opportunities. In addition, there were multiple times when he would call and clap for the ball and get frustrated waiting for a pass a tick or two late, or that never came. Put another way: he's better than his teammates, and as good as he is, would be even better with better talent. (I guess everyone would, but you get my point, I hope.)
   1453. phredbird Posted: May 12, 2019 at 10:11 PM (#5841379)

the stats guys have informed ernie that this was the first 7th game buzzer beater in NBA history.
   1454. tshipman Posted: May 12, 2019 at 10:41 PM (#5841388)
This is the part that stuck with me on rewatches. Simmons gave Kawhi nothing, Kawhi used Embiid's double to hit the gas and get just enough space to hit that shot, while fading backwards and to the side. The Sixers really did nothing wrong there, and Kawhi (and the rim) killed them.


yeah, you're looking at a fadeaway 20 footer off the dribble, with momentum going out of bounds. That's a 20% shot, I think.

Too bad for Brett Brown, I guess.
   1455. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: May 12, 2019 at 10:56 PM (#5841390)
41 points on 39 shots? Kobe Bryant Legacy Game!
   1456. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: May 12, 2019 at 10:56 PM (#5841391)
I saw an estimate that gave it like a 19% chance - good call, tship
   1457. rr: calming the thread down with my arms Posted: May 12, 2019 at 11:42 PM (#5841398)
I don’t know how big these are but - yeah. He’s a real asset.


I think the "first tier" right now for me is eight guys:

Antetokounmpo/Leonard/Durant/Harden/Curry/Embiid/Davis/James

Butler is in the next group, with Lillard, Jokic, George, and some other guys.
   1458. puck Posted: May 12, 2019 at 11:46 PM (#5841399)
Re Denver. I don't get to watch them much, but man, Jokic is an elite player. Is there any indication he's frustrated out there?


I think it's too early for that, I think this season might have really been the first full season where he was aware of his superpowers. They were better in the regular season and have improved each season Jokic has been there, 33 to 40 to 46 to 54 wins.
   1459. aberg Posted: May 13, 2019 at 12:33 AM (#5841401)
It's a good thing Jimmy Butler got to a team that knows how to win so he could cause several shot clock violations in the last 3 minutes.
   1460. Davo Posted: May 13, 2019 at 12:45 AM (#5841402)
   1461. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: May 13, 2019 at 01:16 AM (#5841405)
Thanks Davo. That's a time when I wasn't watching almost any NBA, so don't think I've ever seen that one before.
   1462. jmurph Posted: May 13, 2019 at 09:44 AM (#5841427)
It's a good thing Jimmy Butler got to a team that knows how to win so he could cause several shot clock violations in the last 3 minutes.

If he wasn't Jimmy Butler I'd feel for him a little bit, it's not like anyone else on that team knows how to create a shot.
   1463. jmurph Posted: May 13, 2019 at 09:45 AM (#5841428)
Ummmm, John Beilein is taking the Cavs job?
   1464. spivey Posted: May 13, 2019 at 09:50 AM (#5841432)
I don't get it for Beilein, but it sounds like maybe he wanted to coach in the NBA for a while, while staying close to Michigan. That doesn't give you a lot of job options. He's also getting older, so he can't wait forever. I dunno. I hope they don't get Zion.
   1465. CFBF's Overflowing Pathos Posted: May 13, 2019 at 10:08 AM (#5841437)
Apparently Beilein doesn't want to deal with recruiting any more. Broadly similar reason Donovan left Florida for OKC.
   1466. jmurph Posted: May 13, 2019 at 10:19 AM (#5841443)
John Schuhmann @johnschuhmann
Sixers w/ Joel Embiid off the floor...

Game 4: 12:46, -22
Game 5: 16:48, -21
Game 6: 12:27, -29
Game 7: 2:48 - 12
TOTAL: 44:49, -84

Less than a full game & they were outscored by 84 points.

84!
   1467. Moses Taylor, glorified meat shield Posted: May 13, 2019 at 10:33 AM (#5841446)
I guess I get the idea to try and coach in the pros when you get a chance - Beilein isn't super young, but I could see him being an ok coach. I just don't get the Cavs part of it at all, unless they get Zion (and even if they do), there's a good chance he doesn't last the full contract, even if he does a decent job.
   1468. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: May 13, 2019 at 10:39 AM (#5841451)
Game 4: 12:46, -22
Game 5: 16:48, -21
Game 6: 12:27, -29
Game 7: 2:48 - 12
TOTAL: 44:49, -84


Some of this may be the team making offense/defense switches at the end of quarters (Embiid was pulled for one defensive possession near the end of the second quarter yesterday, for instance). But the remaining -10 from Game 7 is legit.
   1469. . . . . . . Posted: May 13, 2019 at 11:58 AM (#5841490)
SO Beilein is leaving my beloved Wolverines for the Cavs, apparently because he was fed up with fighting with one hand tied behind his back in college "recruiting". Yippie. Glad I keep cheap scotch in the office.
   1470. Athletic Supporter is USDA certified lean Posted: May 13, 2019 at 12:08 PM (#5841497)
I, for one, think we could use a Cavs fan in this thread.
   1471. jmurph Posted: May 13, 2019 at 12:11 PM (#5841498)
I, for one, think we could use a Cavs fan in this thread.

There was at least one for a while. Vagabond, maybe? I'm forgetting now. Might have been two. Posted a lot during the 2nd coming of LeBron.
   1472. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: May 13, 2019 at 12:13 PM (#5841503)
SO Beilein is leaving my beloved Wolverines for the Cavs, apparently because he was fed up with fighting with one hand tied behind his back in college "recruiting" that weird ####### football coach who keeps yelling at him about milk and kakhis. Yippie. Glad I keep cheap scotch in the office.
   1473. . . . . . . Posted: May 13, 2019 at 12:27 PM (#5841507)
SO Beilein is leaving my beloved Wolverines for the Cavs, apparently because he was fed up with fighting with one hand tied behind his back in college "recruiting" that weird ####### football coach who keeps yelling at him about milk and kakhis. Yippie. Glad I keep cheap scotch in the office.


As I watched that shot last night, I thought "I wonder how stiggie feels about being such an enormous dick that God altered the course of human events just to balance the celestial scales."
   1474. Tin Angel Posted: May 13, 2019 at 12:32 PM (#5841511)
Paul Hembekides @PaulHembo

Ben Simmons had more turnovers than field goals 3 times against the Raptors (Games 2, 5, 7).

He did not attempt a single shot outside the paint during the series.
   1475. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: May 13, 2019 at 12:38 PM (#5841513)
SO Beilein is leaving my beloved Wolverines

Your first mistake was giving a flying fuck about something as corrupt and exploitative as college sports.
   1476. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: May 13, 2019 at 01:20 PM (#5841541)
SO Beilein is leaving my beloved Wolverines for the Cavs, apparently because he was fed up with fighting with one hand tied behind his back in college "recruiting".


What is the perception behind Michigan's inability to attract top HSers? They have (had) a good coach, good history (National Championship, Fab Five), recent success (Final Four appearances), etc. Do they just get beat out by Michigan State?
   1477. Moses Taylor, glorified meat shield Posted: May 13, 2019 at 01:31 PM (#5841552)
Ramona Shelburne @ramonashelburne 6m6 minutes ago

Kevin Durant is out for at least Game 1 of the WCF, source tells ESPN. He’s not being re-evaluated until Thursday so it’s “unlikely “ he plays Game 2 either.
   1478. aberg Posted: May 13, 2019 at 01:51 PM (#5841568)
It would be extremely weird if Kawhi left Toronto after the moment he created there. Of course, that might feel different as time goes on, especially if they're non-competitive with Milwaukee.

What is the perception behind Michigan's inability to attract top HSers? They have (had) a good coach, good history (National Championship, Fab Five), recent success (Final Four appearances), etc. Do they just get beat out by Michigan State?


They were ranked 11th in the country in recruiting last year. It seems like he generally took smaller classes, which depresses the overall ranking, but he got good players. Maybe one of the Michigan die-hards can answer more precisely, but I always got the impression that he had specific types that he targeted, even if they weren't 5* recruits. Some of his best players- Wagner, Simpson, Poole- were outside the top 50 nationally and definitely became better than that. I have long believed that there's a sweet spot in recruiting where you want to get the best player possible who won't be good enough to leave after one year. Jay Wright has done a good job of that for most of his tenure. It seems like Beilein might have also pursued that route.
   1479. aberg Posted: May 13, 2019 at 01:53 PM (#5841570)
Kevin Durant is out for at least Game 1 of the WCF, source tells ESPN. He’s not being re-evaluated until Thursday so it’s “unlikely “ he plays Game 2 either.


Does this matter? I think Houston was a tougher challenge for them than Portland will be. On the other hand, I have been underestimating Portland pretty consistently.

We had a debate about Stotts as a coach earlier this year. One of the points I made in his favor is that he finds a way to make players useful who were fringe players or worse elsewhere. Add Kanter to that list of guys.
   1480. . Posted: May 13, 2019 at 02:10 PM (#5841575)
Apparently Beilein doesn't want to deal with recruiting any more. Broadly similar reason Donovan left Florida for OKC.


Make of it what you will -- I don't make much -- but the ESPN+ college basketball guy picks Donovan to be the next Michigan coach. He's not my favorite, but I'd be ok with it. Second on the guy's list is Bobby Hurley. I'd prefer Stalin.
   1481. . Posted: May 13, 2019 at 02:11 PM (#5841576)
What is the perception behind Michigan's inability to attract top HSers?


That they're under-starred and Beilien wins big with them and turns them into lottery picks or high draft choices/good pros in a couple/three years. That's been his consistent record.
   1482. Harlond Posted: May 13, 2019 at 02:16 PM (#5841581)
I have long believed that there's a sweet spot in recruiting where you want to get the best player possible who won't be good enough to leave after one year. Jay Wright has done a good job of that for most of his tenure. It seems like Beilein might have also pursued that route.
This seems like a good spot for this UVA fan to point out that 2018-2019 MEN'S BASKETBALL NATIONAL CHAMPION UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA with Coach Tony Bennett also does a good job of this.
   1483. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: May 13, 2019 at 02:19 PM (#5841582)
Define matters. Portland has a puncher's chance, I think.
   1484. It's regretful that PASTE was able to get out Posted: May 13, 2019 at 02:39 PM (#5841596)
I don’t think Golden State will need Durant to wax Portland.

That said, I’m convinced Terry Stotts is a difference maker, meaning one of the ~5 best coaches in the NBA. If I were running Philly for instance, I would be willing to pay pretty much whatever it takes to get him (because I do think it’s time to move on from Brown and I don’t see any other coaches who might be available this offseason who even might possibly be difference makers).

Whatever it takes cashwise, I mean. I would never give a coach full personnel control.

edit: I don’t see much point in firing Brown if it’s just to bring in a middling retread or a college guy. But I would fire him plus pay out a huge pile of money if I could replace him with Stotts.
   1485. Moses Taylor, glorified meat shield Posted: May 13, 2019 at 02:48 PM (#5841601)
1483 - Right. The Warriors overall depth isn't what it was, but even without Durant they *should* win the series. However, if Portland can steal one (or both) games, perhaps there's more pressure to rush KD back and he isn't close to 100% or gets hurt worse. Plus, 3pt variance...

   1486. Moses Taylor, glorified meat shield Posted: May 13, 2019 at 03:03 PM (#5841609)
Has this picture of Kawhi's shot been posted? If so, it should be posted again and again and again.
   1487. jmurph Posted: May 13, 2019 at 03:52 PM (#5841622)
Does this matter? I think Houston was a tougher challenge for them than Portland will be. On the other hand, I have been underestimating Portland pretty consistently.

This seems like important additional context:
Rachel Nichols @Rachel__Nichols
In talking to Warriors brass postgame in Houston, it sounds like KD's return will also be metered in part by how the first two games of the series with Portland goes.
   1488. Crosseyed and Painless Posted: May 13, 2019 at 04:00 PM (#5841624)
Current Odds:

Portland +420
Golden State -550

Toronto +233
Milwaukee -282

Pretty sure my (tiny) Toronto bet to win the East before this even started was less than +233, so guess they've looked worse/Bucks have looked better than expected.
   1489. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: May 13, 2019 at 04:06 PM (#5841628)
Has this picture of Kawhi's shot been posted? If so, it should be posted again and again and again.

It's like a modern reinterpretation of a renaissance painting.
   1490. It's regretful that PASTE was able to get out Posted: May 13, 2019 at 04:09 PM (#5841629)
I may very well be wrong but I LOVE Toronto at +233. Milwaukee is really good but Toronto is pretty damn good too, and I like their chances if Kawhi can battle Giannis to a draw (and Kawhi is one of the extremely few players in the world who can).

Kiiinda leaning toward rooting for Milwaukee though, just because I’m really curious how Golden State will deal with the Greek Freak, especially since Durant is probably going to be gimpy for the duration.
   1491. Athletic Supporter is USDA certified lean Posted: May 13, 2019 at 04:18 PM (#5841632)
Wow, I couldn't disagree more with that. Basically all the Raptors not named Kawhi and role player Siakam just shat the bed over seven games. Maybe guilty of recency bias, but I think if Giannis and Kawhi push the Bucks win easily.

I have come to the conclusion, though, that Kawhi is now the best player in the league. He is prime Kobe on offense and one of the five best defenders in the league.

The listed odds (implying Bucks 70% or so) seem about right to me. I'm looking forward to it.

Who is the better player: Klay Thompson or CJ McCollum? Because Golden State has massive advantages at each of the other four positions with Durant playing, and probably is ahead at each even with him sitting if we call Looney the starting C. I will be very surprised if Portland gets to game 6.
   1492. jmurph Posted: May 13, 2019 at 04:30 PM (#5841640)
so guess they've looked worse/Bucks have looked better than expected.

Two bad signs for Toronto in my mind: they shouldn't have struggled so much putting Philadelphia away, and Nurse seems to have lost faith in some rotation guys.

EDIT: Coke to Athletic on the first point.
   1493. aberg Posted: May 13, 2019 at 04:40 PM (#5841649)
Two bad signs for Toronto in my mind: they shouldn't have struggled so much putting Philadelphia away, and Nurse seems to have lost faith in some rotation guys.


Philly is tough when they ride their starters for long minutes. I don't blame Toronto for that series being close. On the other hand, Lowry is reminding everyone about his reputation for struggling in the playoffs (even if that fit Derozan more than him), and they need to get more offense from at least one of Siakam and Gasol. That big lineup was a beast on defense, though, and they have multiple long, tough guys to throw at Giannis. It will be fun to watch.
   1494. aberg Posted: May 13, 2019 at 04:45 PM (#5841652)
I will go Warriors in 5, Bucks in 6.
   1495. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: May 13, 2019 at 04:45 PM (#5841653)
Has this picture of Kawhi's shot been posted? If so, it should be posted again and again and again.


That's phenomenal, and so is the thread accompanying it.

   1496. Too Much Coffee Man Posted: May 13, 2019 at 04:53 PM (#5841658)
I blame myself for the Nuggets' loss, I couldn't watch due to being at the Rockies game.

What happened?


It was a lot of things.

1. I think they ran out of steam. Unlike a lot of games in which they don't play with urgency, they did in this one. But they still looked in slow motion.
2. They couldn't shoot. Shoot 30% from 3, 75% at the line, and they win by one.
(Bricked a lot of free throws even when they were up.)
3. Once they established they couldn't shoot, POR packed the lanes and took away their ability to drive to the basket.
4. Collins & Turner (!) drastically outplayed the Nuggets' bench.
5. Remember how in G6, Lillard was bombing from 30 feet? The Nuggets adjusted by having Jokic hedge out higher. It worked on Lillard, but McCallum simply turned the corner and drove to the basket with no back help.
   1497. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: May 13, 2019 at 04:55 PM (#5841660)
As I watched that shot last night, I thought "I wonder how stiggie feels about being such an enormous dick that God altered the course of human events just to balance the celestial scales."

that says a hell of a lot more about you than it does about me.
   1498. calming him down with his 57i66135 Posted: May 13, 2019 at 04:56 PM (#5841661)
I will go Warriors in 5, Bucks in 6.
i'll take warriors in 4, bucks in 3.
   1499. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: May 13, 2019 at 05:02 PM (#5841662)
that says a hell of a lot more about you than it does about me.

I agree. But it still also says a lot about you.
   1500. JC in DC Posted: May 13, 2019 at 05:19 PM (#5841672)
[1486] One great thing about that shot is the reminder how big the hoop is compared to the ball. My junior high coach would bring out a rim and show us that two balls, side by side, could fit in the hoop. "The ball wants to go in, boys," he would say. "This ain't golf."
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