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Friday, January 13, 2012

OT: PGA Tour Thread, Winter 2012

This is a test of sorts. Actually I expect little but derision, but that has never stopped me.  Given that we have OT threads on hoops and football and soccer going, and that there’s a pro-bowling obituary up this morning, I wonder if there are any Primates interested in the start of the PGA Tour season in Maui this weekend.  After one round, defending Tournament of Champions Champion Jonathan Byrd leads by one stroke. 

This year’s PGA Tour season faces a number of challenges, many of them unforeseen byproducts of there being “too much money” in the global sport even in the teeth of a worldwide recession.  The opening Tour event in Maui, designed as an elite event involving last year’s tournament winners, has shrunk to a small field, because most of the major stars have been playing all winter in places like Thailand and the Persian Gulf for huge purses, and a purse of a mere $5.6 million isn’t going to get them on the plane to flipping Hawaii to play golf.  Indeed, ordinary weekly events on the PGA Tour, once the center of the golf world, are now mostly optional for the major stars: sponsors are worried that the tournaments will fill with obscurer touring pros (though paradoxically, once an obscure touring pro wins a couple of these ordinary weekends, he becomes a big star and gets to play for millions year-round).  It’s a bloated economic phenomenon, but still a beautiful sport.  Reminds me of baseball :)

BDC Posted: January 13, 2012 at 07:24 AM | 106 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. Lassus Posted: April 14, 2012 at 06:43 PM (#4106709)
flip


Are you telling him to weaken his grip? Rotating the lower (right) hand in manner you're suggesting (unless I'm misreading) is going to promote a MORE rightward trajectory, not less. A stronger grip (right hand more underneath) generally allows for more rotation in the swing, which helps draw the ball.

No, not at all. I even make a point to say re-grip the club. If you turn your right hand farther under the club, your clubface turns over sooner, preventing that face from being more open when you strike the ball, and therefore preventing both the direction of going right, and the spin to make it go even further right.

You in fact mention it, but a stronger grip is not by default a more underneath grip. You still have to move your hand underneath, which is all I was advising. I may have made it MORE confusing by attempting to detail what "underneath" meant, step-by-step.


I agree with most of what Lassus said; I had never heard of no. 3 although it probably makes sense.

I think this is always good advice for a beginner, but it's probably personal - it may not truly work for everyone.
   102. AZ Posted: April 16, 2012 at 09:09 AM (#4107523)
I'm sorry if I said in some other thread that pro golfers tend to be in pretty good physical shape. Watching Colt Knost and Carl Petterson vying for the lead at Hilton Head today is like watching an episode of The Biggest Loser.

Heh. I remember when Colt Knost won the Am, seems like he's even bigger now.

It's sort of a shame that Harbourtown comes right after the Masters, it's an interesting, picturesque course. But the field is always weak, and fan interest has got to be down. They should flip it with the Texas Open, which is the epitome of a nondescript PGA Tour event.
   103. Lassus Posted: April 16, 2012 at 09:13 AM (#4107527)
It's sort of a shame that Harbourtown comes right after the Masters, it's an interesting, picturesque course.

A shame indeed - I love these sorts of courses, and was certainly not paying attention.
   104. BDC Posted: April 23, 2012 at 12:18 PM (#4113652)
The Texas Open had an extremely nondescript field, but how can you not like an event where guys have to take a drop after losing the ball in cactus?

In fact, the Texas Open is a good bellwether for the trends I noted in my opening comment. Past champions include Walter Hagen, Byron Nelson, Sam Snead, Arnold Palmer (three straight years!), Chi-Chi Rodriguez, Hale Irwin, and Lee Trevino. More recently, the champions have been second-tier guys (excellent players who've won elsewhere, too, but not the Irwins and Trevinos of the contemporary game). The field seems to excite nobody, and there are multiple events on other world tours competing for the top stars' attention – if the top stars can even be bothered to travel somewhere for a chance at winning a million dollars. The whole thing takes on a AAAA feel, weirdly enough for a rich tournament with many perks attached to winning.

Ben Curtis's victory is a great story. One always wants a major champion to have a good career, partly to vindicate the idea that major championships identify great players, instead of merely being random weekend tournaments. Curtis has seemed like the most random of all major champions, but the win in San Antonio helps him assemble another bit of his resumé for posterity. And the million dollars must not be bad, either.
   105. SoSH U at work Posted: April 23, 2012 at 12:32 PM (#4113663)
They should flip it with the Texas Open, which is the epitome of a nondescript PGA Tour event.


The Texas event moves the week before the Masters next year. Its field, as Bob notes, has been extremely nondescript in recent years (though the event plays as one of the more difficult ones for a regular tour stop).

I do agree that Harbourtown is a good event that deserves a better fate. It's such a different test than most anything else out there on a weekly basis.

   106. Shredder Posted: May 10, 2012 at 12:06 PM (#4128225)
I've seen Doak's posts on GCA, he seems unwilling to divulge any details. I see that the committee postponed the announcement of the decision.
Looking back on this, I realized I missed an opportunity. I played with Doak at Crystal Downs in Michigan last Saturday, and asking him about the Olympic bid completely slipped my mind. He did, however, save us $150 each by getting us the accompanied guest rate instead of the unaccompanied rate (he's a member at the Downs).
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