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Wednesday, June 01, 2016

OT: 2016 Summer Soccer Thread

Special Randy Jones Summer Soccer Thread!

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   1401. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: July 07, 2016 at 04:26 PM (#5260694)
Stop co-opting Iceland's chants, you monsters.

(also flip)
   1402. Jose Needs an Absurd Ukulele Concert Posted: July 07, 2016 at 04:30 PM (#5260704)
That should do it.
   1403. spivey Posted: July 07, 2016 at 04:33 PM (#5260706)
Well that's game. Neuer gets way too aggressive at times. And Howedes, what the #### was that pass?

Bah, this game sucked.
   1404. nick swisher hygiene Posted: July 07, 2016 at 04:33 PM (#5260707)
I'll believe it when it's over.
   1405. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: July 07, 2016 at 04:35 PM (#5260711)
Bah, this game sucked.

Huh? I was just talking with people about how entertaining this one has been, particularly in comparison to yesterday!
   1406. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: July 07, 2016 at 04:40 PM (#5260716)
Kimmich was lucky that was given, that tug was not very much...
   1407. spivey Posted: July 07, 2016 at 04:41 PM (#5260717)
eh, France is the worse team and if Germany is healthy I think they win this. Setting aside the Hummels and stupid yellow rule.
   1408. Textbook Editor Posted: July 07, 2016 at 04:43 PM (#5260719)
Poop. Two teams I hate in the final. Hard to know what to do. Yard work?

   1409. spivey Posted: July 07, 2016 at 04:45 PM (#5260721)
It's not even like France is a good counter attacking team. They just are kinda aimless out of possession. It annoys me I guess that them or Portugal will win and they are neither feel good stories or the best team.
   1410. spivey Posted: July 07, 2016 at 04:48 PM (#5260725)
What exactly is Gotze world class at? Reus is so much better.
   1411. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: July 07, 2016 at 04:52 PM (#5260728)
Lloris has been outstanding.
   1412. Textbook Editor Posted: July 07, 2016 at 04:53 PM (#5260729)
I mean, I suppose it would be nice for Lloris to have a medal but man I hate almost all the other French players other than Pogba. And Ronaldo is such a attention clown that in a just universe he never wins a damn thing.

Can't remember a recent final where I hated BOTH teams.
   1413. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: July 07, 2016 at 04:53 PM (#5260730)
What exactly is Gotze world class at?

Being a traitor?
   1414. Mefisto Posted: July 07, 2016 at 04:56 PM (#5260734)
That game convinced me that Germany are the best team in Europe. But France took their chances and Germany didn't, so...
   1415. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: July 07, 2016 at 04:59 PM (#5260738)
what about iceland :(

Well, *I* had fun with that, anyway, and I look forward to the final! My rule is that some soccer > no soccer, always* :)

*I also picked France to win this tournament/Griezmann as top scorer, so if that happens and given that my pick Chile won the Copa, I can forever lord this summer over friends of mine and, let's be real, that's probably the best motivation for anything, ever. I'm also aware of how unoriginal and uninteresting those picks were. Shaddup, I tend to be too cutesy with this kind of thing generally, I tried to be standard :p
   1416. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: July 07, 2016 at 05:11 PM (#5260752)
Only took one game, apparently. I think people like Naho.
   1417. frannyzoo Posted: July 07, 2016 at 05:48 PM (#5260778)
Hmm...missed the game but see the comments here. As for France, I like just about every single player. Love a few, including Griezmann of course, and Payet, Pogba, Coman. Hell even Giroud gets way too much grief. To each their own, I guess.

Today was a game with two teams I root for, and it's gonna be pretty damn easy to pick a favorite in the Final. I really wish it was Argentina against France though.

Edit: And I forgot Matuidi! I'm kinda drawing a blank on how the squad could be so unpopular here or anywhere else. Oh well...
   1418. Textbook Editor Posted: July 07, 2016 at 07:07 PM (#5260833)
Franny, I'm a Republic of Ireland fan, and don't forgive/forget the 2009 WC Playoff 2nd leg. I will hope for the rest of my life the French lose in epic fail fashion at any major tournament they are in.
   1419. frannyzoo Posted: July 07, 2016 at 07:27 PM (#5260844)
Understood Textbook. As a something-something generation mixed-Irish mongrel myself, I very much recall the Henry handball with umbrage and all that. Still, my favorite country to bicycle tour is Germany and I understand that nation has participated in some behaviors even worse than Thierry Henry not fessing up to "handling." We all make our little ethical accommodations, me more than anyone, perhaps.
   1420. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: July 07, 2016 at 08:43 PM (#5260913)
I'm French-Canadian by heritage, so I guess I'm vaguely rooting for France. Really, I was rooting for England because of all the Tottenham players. I guess France have the last remaining Tottenham player.
   1421. Baldrick Posted: July 08, 2016 at 05:45 PM (#5261672)
Only took one game, apparently. I think people like Naho.

Good goals for Naho and all, but I thought Nadim was the clear player of the week. She was really really good.
   1422. DA Baracus Posted: July 08, 2016 at 06:08 PM (#5261678)
This week has been awful but there is good news, Klinsmann is reportedly in discussions with England.
   1423. vortex of dissipation Posted: July 08, 2016 at 06:20 PM (#5261683)
Only took one game, apparently. I think people like Naho.


Haven't been to a Reign match (I live in the Seattle area) but I regretted not going to one when she was here the last time, just to see her play. I really, really, should go to one...
   1424. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: July 08, 2016 at 06:44 PM (#5261691)
Klinsmann is reportedly in discussions with England.


how does this guy keep falling upwards? That said, DO IT ENGLAND.
   1425. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: July 08, 2016 at 06:48 PM (#5261693)
Good goals for Naho and all, but I thought Nadim was the clear player of the week. She was really really good.

I haven't seen the Reign game, but I totally agree that Nadim was excellent against SBFC.
Haven't been to a Reign match (I live in the Seattle area) but I regretted not going to one when she was here the last time, just to see her play. I really, really, should go to one...

Do it! They'll be beating up on teams without the NT players, anyway.
   1426. I am going to be Frank Posted: July 08, 2016 at 09:34 PM (#5261808)
Gotze has (deservedly) got a lot of stick, but what happens if he goes to Spurs?
   1427. Jose Needs an Absurd Ukulele Concert Posted: July 08, 2016 at 09:59 PM (#5261839)
Hey, Klinsmann took his team to a semi this summer, that has to look good to England.
   1428. Sean Forman Posted: July 08, 2016 at 11:17 PM (#5261889)
Klinsmann is a heavy favorite on betfair.

Think of all of the Welsh and Irish dual nationals he'll be pulling in. Maybe some Jamaicans too. Gareth Bale would be with the 3 Lions if JK were the English manager.
   1429. frannyzoo Posted: July 08, 2016 at 11:41 PM (#5261898)
All the meltdown without buildup of suspense. Time is just a narrative device. It's flash nonfiction from Marcelo.
   1430. spivey Posted: July 09, 2016 at 12:05 AM (#5261901)
Gotze has (deservedly) got a lot of stick, but what happens if he goes to Spurs?

I think they need creative depth, but I don't know he starts. I'd easily start Eriksen and Alli over him. It just comes down to Lamela. I think he's better than Lamela but Lamela fits their team needs and system well. It's been some time that Gotze has been out of form. Long enough to wonder if its form or just his skill.

I presume Reus isn't on the table?

Or back to Bayern, any chance that Any of their wingers are available?
   1431. sardonic Posted: July 09, 2016 at 12:39 AM (#5261908)
Somehow Klismann ending up with England is just so... right. Who could the US get to replace him?
   1432. Jose Needs an Absurd Ukulele Concert Posted: July 09, 2016 at 01:21 AM (#5261913)
Sven would listen.

I'm guessing an MLS guy will get the job next. Maybe Vermes or Kreis or Caleb Porter? Would they maybe want a placeholder? Sigi Schmid to get them to Russia with one of those guys following him?
   1433. Textbook Editor Posted: July 09, 2016 at 12:03 PM (#5261980)
Klinsmann for England is just... I mean it's completely ridiculous. Has anyone at the FA paid attention--at all--to his time in charge of the USA?

I mean, ####, if you're going to do that, then just hire Big Sam and roll the dice that way with an English manager who knows how to get results and is pragmatic. (And who might even--as some have pointed out here--even be a fit for the players at his disposal currently.)

I really can't get over how stupid the FA would be if they hire him. It's completely baffling to me--like they all took hits of LSD and threw darts at a list of current national team managers and hit Klinsmann first.

As for Gotze, unless you maybe move Eriksen back alongside Dier as a deep-lying playmaker, I don't think Gotze would make the starting XI either--only because Alli you don't want to sit and Lamela's relentless ball-pressing really is key for their whole system to work (to me, the team works differently if Lamela's not in there). But moving Eriksen back (which they did do for some games Dembele was out, and I thought it worked well) would mean Dembele isn't playing and I'm not certain that's a great idea either.

But they're going to have a LOT of games next year, and the preferred starting XI can't play them all. They need depth desperately, and there's a good chance with injury/suspensions Gotze would still start an awful lot of games.
   1434. Mefisto Posted: July 09, 2016 at 03:38 PM (#5262029)
Fairly lackluster performance by the USWNT today. RSA looked well-organized on defense, with not much attack. US looked pedestrian. On the individual level, I continue to marvel at how bad Press can be for the US when she's so good with Chicago. I have to think it's partly mental at this point. Dunn continues to be good in front of goal and poor everywhere else. Lloyd was rusty to the point of being invisible.
   1435. Baldrick Posted: July 09, 2016 at 11:32 PM (#5262249)
NWSL game forced to be played on a ridiculously small pitch. Embarrassing for everyone.

Predictably, it's being covered by lots of sports media who only bother to cover women's soccer when something like this happens. Sigh.
   1436. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: July 10, 2016 at 03:13 AM (#5262265)
Think of all of the Welsh and Irish dual nationals he'll be pulling in. Maybe some Jamaicans too. Gareth Bale would be with the 3 Lions if JK were the English manager.

He can bring back Zak Whitbread, who's still only played for US U20!
   1437. MY PAIN IS NOT A HOLIDAY (CoB). Posted: July 10, 2016 at 02:04 PM (#5262337)
Looks like Spurs have closed the deal for Vincent Janssen.

Excellent. Between him and Wanyama, that's a very good start to the window. And early, too, which is important.

If Gotze comes over as well, that's just icing on the cake, but I'm already pretty happy.
   1438. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: July 10, 2016 at 03:11 PM (#5262386)
Rooting heavily against Portugal, but it wouldn't be the same if Ronaldo is seriously compromised.
   1439. MY PAIN IS NOT A HOLIDAY (CoB). Posted: July 10, 2016 at 03:18 PM (#5262389)
[1438] True. Adding moth to injury.
   1440. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: July 10, 2016 at 03:18 PM (#5262390)
Yeah pretty sure he is done, that sucks.
   1441. MY PAIN IS NOT A HOLIDAY (CoB). Posted: July 10, 2016 at 03:23 PM (#5262393)
Man, if I was anyone associated with RM, I'd be going berserk over Ronaldo going back out there.
   1442. puck Posted: July 10, 2016 at 03:34 PM (#5262398)
On the individual level, I continue to marvel at how bad Press can be for the US when she's so good with Chicago.


Yeah, what about that? Where does she play for Chicago--different spot?

Ooh, good shot by Sissoko there.
   1443. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: July 10, 2016 at 04:28 PM (#5262438)
Coman comes in, and a few minutes later produces a gorgeous cross. Griezmann really should have put it on frame.
   1444. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: July 10, 2016 at 04:39 PM (#5262444)
That would have been the goal of the tournament, if he had pulled it off.
   1445. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: July 10, 2016 at 05:20 PM (#5262484)
Well then, game on.
   1446. MY PAIN IS NOT A HOLIDAY (CoB). Posted: July 10, 2016 at 05:33 PM (#5262488)
Ball Saxbury.

Meh.
   1447. Jose Needs an Absurd Ukulele Concert Posted: July 10, 2016 at 05:42 PM (#5262489)
Officials deservedly getting praised. Not just for tonight but in general I thought the majority of this tournament was well officiated.
   1448. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: July 10, 2016 at 05:59 PM (#5262495)
The handball they gave against Koscielny, just before the goal, when it came off Eder's hand, was pretty egregious. Portugal almost scored off that free kick, which would have been a tragedy. Especially as I don't think it should have been given as a foul at all.
   1449. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: July 10, 2016 at 06:09 PM (#5262500)
It is a very odd feeling when everyone on earth roots against the underdog, and then the underdog wins. Although I guess when Greece won the Euros it was the same thing.
   1450. Textbook Editor Posted: July 10, 2016 at 07:44 PM (#5262540)
   1451. spivey Posted: July 10, 2016 at 11:06 PM (#5262588)
I had no problem with Portugal winning.

Lloris should have stopped that shot, right? Seemed to react/dive really late.
   1452. KronicFatigue Posted: July 11, 2016 at 09:01 AM (#5262639)
A couple of weeks ago, there was a brief moment where Ronaldo didn't annoy me and I began to think it was my own personal character flaw that I disliked him so much. That maybe I'm just jealous or can't appreciate how people like him are just wired differently. It was around the time he was supportive of Messi's copa failures and just overall commentary about how competitive Ronaldo is.

Then, during the penalty kicks against Poland he was pacing around by himself when everyone else on the team was linked together and I got that itchy feeling in the back of my brain again. Then, yesterday, he's pacing around at the end with what seemed like an exaggerated limp and over-dramatic-coaching. He must have recently watched Jordan's flu game. When the final whistle blew, and the camera panned out, I swear I saw his limp go away when he ran to his teammates. And I swore that if he took his shirt off, I'd go back to full on hating him. So, I'm back to drinking the six pack of hater-ade
   1453. Topher Posted: July 11, 2016 at 11:40 AM (#5262798)
Lloris should have stopped that shot, right? Seemed to react/dive really late.


That was my take on seeing it live. On replay, I'm not so sure. Lloris can't really commit to a side since Eder essentially has a clear goal to shoot at. Additionally, Eder is dribbling right and it's an easier shot to curl it into the right side of the goal instead of kicking across his body and aiming left like he did. I'm not sure Lloris really cheated the wrong way but I don't think he could have done anything to anticipate it going where it did.

I do think Lloris' lack of size hurt him. I wouldn't say for certain that Neuer stops that shot due to his length but if I had to bet I think he does stop it with the same reaction time.

That said, Lloris is small, right? Wiki is listing him at 6'2" and Neuer at 6'4". I can't imagine in reality there is just two inches between the two.
   1454. Topher Posted: July 11, 2016 at 11:45 AM (#5262805)
When the final whistle blew, and the camera panned out, I swear I saw his limp go away when he ran to his teammates.


For what it's worth, I thought the limp was quite noticeable at the end when the camera panned out. I thought he was moving better on the touchline as the game approached minute 120 so I was a bit surprised he didn't make a pure sprint at the final whistle.

I think you're pretty much spot on in the rest of the post. Worth noting I like Ronaldo so I don't get the same visceral reactions. Although I did have to giggle when his shirt came off immediately after the final whistle. I think Ronaldo must have a chafing problem in the same manner that Nelson Muntz does with his pants.

ETA: that wasn't Nelson. Oops.
   1455. jmurph Posted: July 11, 2016 at 12:00 PM (#5262829)
Although I did have to giggle when his shirt came off immediately after the final whistle.


I also agree this is silly, but admittedly if I had Ronaldo's physique I probably wouldn't even own any shirts.
   1456. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: July 11, 2016 at 06:13 PM (#5263111)
I don't think Lloris realistically could have saved that.

Janssen to Spurs looks finally officially official. Pretty pleased with this. Obviously Eredivisie strikers don't always work out in the Premier League, but Spurs badly needed a capable backup to Kane.
   1457. MY PAIN IS NOT A HOLIDAY (CoB). Posted: July 11, 2016 at 07:09 PM (#5263131)
Nice, in-depth write up on Janssen.

I can see why Poch/Spurs would want him.
   1458. The_Ex Posted: July 11, 2016 at 08:46 PM (#5263174)
Lloris looked to have hurt himself a few minutes earlier, before the goal. He was limping around too. Could that have stopped him from pushing off with full force on the shot?
   1459. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: July 12, 2016 at 12:43 PM (#5263513)
Olympic roster for the USWNT has Naeher ahead of Harris (cue internet outrage, though does this allow her to play for Orlando?), Engen over Sonnett (okay...), and Rapinoe over Sam Mewis. HAO, Mewis, Sonnett, and Harris are alternates.
   1460. Baldrick Posted: July 12, 2016 at 01:55 PM (#5263564)
Cue various internet outrages about the wholly predictable (as in: I predicted all 18, and was about 95% confident I was right) lineup.

Worth noting that O'Reilly is the ONLY player to have lost a spot for endogenous reasons. Every other change from the WC lineup is down to retirements/pregnancy. Even Rapinoe (who hasn't seen a minute for club or country since her ACL tear in December) is on the roster.

To the extent that there's a 'story' here, it's Allie Long making the 18. She was out in the dark six months ago, and is now going to Rio, which is pretty exciting.
   1461. Mefisto Posted: July 12, 2016 at 02:17 PM (#5263578)
I'd rephrase 1459 to say that Rapinoe replaced HAO. Allie Long is the one who got the spot instead of Mewis.
   1462. ursus arctos Posted: July 12, 2016 at 03:04 PM (#5263617)
Celtic are losing to Lincoln Red Imps in Gibraltar
   1463. ursus arctos Posted: July 12, 2016 at 03:19 PM (#5263633)
Lloris looked to have hurt himself a few minutes earlier, before the goal. He was limping around too. Could that have stopped him from pushing off with full force on the shot?


The very good TSN commentators focused on this, and it is definitely possible, though one can't know for sure without talking to him. What we do know is that he hit his knee on the post on the free kick arising from the awful hand ball call, and then failed to react quickly to Eder's shot.
   1464. ursus arctos Posted: July 12, 2016 at 03:53 PM (#5263665)
Celtic have LOST to Lincoln Red Imps in Gibraltar

Give it up for the Brendan Rodgers Experience!
   1465. PepTech Posted: July 12, 2016 at 04:03 PM (#5263672)
Imps! Imps! Imps!

Even though it's just the first leg and I'm sure Celtic will rally at home, this has to be the most surprising result since... well, Iceland.
   1466. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: July 12, 2016 at 04:07 PM (#5263678)
Gibraltar has 10% the population of Iceland. And Scotland has 10% the population of England. So really this is what we should expect.
   1467. Textbook Editor Posted: July 12, 2016 at 04:25 PM (#5263697)
Game Story on Red Imps v. Celtic

So... those stories about Rodgers being in the mix for the England job...
   1468. vortex of dissipation Posted: July 12, 2016 at 04:51 PM (#5263725)
I'm amazed that Gibraltar is large enough to field 10 teams in their Premier Division, and 12 more in the Second Division.
   1469. ursus arctos Posted: July 12, 2016 at 05:12 PM (#5263746)
It's not much more than a rec league with a competitive layer.

All First Division clubs use the same stadium, for instance.
   1470. PepTech Posted: July 12, 2016 at 06:04 PM (#5263793)
All First Division clubs use the same stadium, for instance.
I think all the players live within a goal kick of The Stadium, for that matter...
   1471. ursus arctos Posted: July 13, 2016 at 08:21 AM (#5264185)
The stat I heard was that they were all born within 30 metres of the ground, but that reflects the fact that it is very close to the hospital.
   1472. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: July 15, 2016 at 11:50 AM (#5265666)
I'm a little embarrassed for Dortmund that they're bringing Gotze back but I'm glad he's not going to Spurs.
   1473. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: July 15, 2016 at 09:58 PM (#5266093)
So Ngolo Kante is leaving a team that's playing in the Champions League next season for one that isn't. Stupid Chelsea.
   1474. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: July 16, 2016 at 08:00 PM (#5266343)
Taylor Comeau!!

Awesome cross by Sofia.
   1475. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: July 16, 2016 at 09:20 PM (#5266361)
Weather delay in Orlando so switched over to Houston-Portland.

Not sure if I'm more surprised by Portland losing or by the fact that Houston apparently scored a goal :p
   1476. Baldrick Posted: July 17, 2016 at 12:22 AM (#5266409)
3 goals for Houston! Hallelujah!

Was busy so couldn't watch the game, but I sure am happy at the result.
   1477. jmurph Posted: July 20, 2016 at 01:05 PM (#5268242)
So the Evening Standard is running with Allardyce to England, and Moyes finalizing details to take over at Sunderland. No idea if either is true, but I think both make some sense.
   1478. Jose Needs an Absurd Ukulele Concert Posted: July 20, 2016 at 01:35 PM (#5268281)
Allardyce is an interesting hire. If England fans are looking for exciting, wide open football he's not their guy. His track record of getting teams out of relegation scraps seems like it would lend itself to tournament results. Maybe he's not pretty but he gets the job done.
   1479. jmurph Posted: July 20, 2016 at 01:39 PM (#5268287)
His track record of getting teams out of relegation scraps seems like it would lend itself to tournament results. Maybe he's not pretty but he gets the job done.

That's basically where I land, too. To oversimplify things, England probably aren't winning a tournament until they develop better players, and I don't really see the case that the England national team manager is particularly important on that front.
   1480. Ron J2 Posted: July 20, 2016 at 01:45 PM (#5268290)
#1432 Its moments like that that make me miss Special One TV. The way they did Sven was just perfect for me.

EDIT: And I would like a Special One TV segment on the Big Sam England interview.
   1481. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: July 20, 2016 at 02:03 PM (#5268311)
I think England has good enough players but the combination of weak coaching and a toxic media environment just kills them. The manager and players are terrified of making mistakes and it plays out the same every time. Hodgson picked a team that seemed designed to garner as little criticism as possible and the players played conservatively. The good thing about Big Sam is that he's so arrogant I don't think the media noise will bother him at all and maybe the players can feed off his all-encompassing confidence.
   1482. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: July 20, 2016 at 03:05 PM (#5268370)
Mario Gomez is getting the hell out of Turkey. He's ending his loan deal at Besiktas and I guess will head back to Fiorentina.
   1483. ursus arctos Posted: July 20, 2016 at 03:23 PM (#5268400)
This is a mess for La Viola, who moved on from Gomez long ago, and now face having to offload him somewhere under duress.

I wonder how he fancies China.

L'Equipe says Pogba to Man Utd is done for 120 million euro
   1484. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: July 20, 2016 at 03:28 PM (#5268406)
He had a solid Euros. Seems an uppish mid-tier German team would be glad to have him. Maybe even a mid-tier English team. He's a huge upgrade for Crystal Palace. In fact, if Crystal Palace isn't on the phone to Fiorentina right now someone there needs to be fed to the laughably incorrect Iguanadon, pronto.
   1485. ursus arctos Posted: July 20, 2016 at 04:13 PM (#5268473)
Looks like the Lincoln Red Imps squad won't need to worry about getting additional vacation days after all.
   1486. Baldrick Posted: July 21, 2016 at 11:33 AM (#5268947)
USWNT roster guide going into the Olympics. I contributed a bunch of these. Should be most helpful for those who don't regularly follow the team, but there are probably a few nuggets in there even for the more regularly informed.
   1487. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: July 21, 2016 at 01:45 PM (#5269078)
David Moyes is the new Sunderland manager. ursus, does this year's PL have the best grouping of active managers of any league ever (based on pedigree)? Guardiola, Mourinho, Klopp, Wenger and Conte would all seem to be "world class" if such a thing exists for managers. Then you have guys with strong resumes like Ranieri, Moyes, Mazzari, Guidolin and Puel and then up and comers like Pochettino, Koeman, Bilic, Howe and Dyche. Who is the manager of least regard this year? Pardew? Bruce? Tony Pulis exists in some existential gray area where I fear to tread.
   1488. I am going to be Frank Posted: July 21, 2016 at 02:15 PM (#5269119)
What's crazier - the money thrown around this season on transfer fees or NBA salaries for free agents? I think anyone who followed either sport knew it was coming, but still can't quite believe the amounts being thrown out there.

Newcastle may have found two teams to pay 35M pounds for Moussa Sissoko. 25M for Wjidnaldum. Hell Liverpool even got 13M for Joe Allen who doesn't seem like a terrible buy for a decent player from the British Isles. I assume that at least 50M will be offered for Higuain and Lukaku. I honestly don't know how close Pogba's deal is but reputable outlets claim it's close.

Gomez seems like someone who would go to China for the money. I guess an English team could pay him a lot, but every player has to have seen what Pelle is reportedly being paid. He's probably done on the national team, so there is one potential hurdle.
   1489. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: July 22, 2016 at 02:05 PM (#5269855)
Steve Bruce quits as Hull City manager because Hull haven't signed anyone. Seems fair enough, I guess.
   1490. I am going to be Frank Posted: July 22, 2016 at 06:20 PM (#5270011)
Hull's owners are apparently trying to sell the club. I guess the "tigers" experiment didn't work. I assume it's going to be a Chinese guy/consortium.
   1491. ursus arctos Posted: July 22, 2016 at 06:57 PM (#5270022)
Snooty, I'd say yes, and that it isn't particularly close, in part because the profile of managers is much higher than it was decades ago.
   1492. Baldrick Posted: July 22, 2016 at 10:17 PM (#5270090)
After a stilted performance against South Africa, the USWNT is looking dominant once again. Running absolutely rampant over Costa Rica, who is really lucky to only be down 3-0.
   1493. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: July 23, 2016 at 11:10 AM (#5270166)
Red Stars acquire Stephanie McCaffrey for their two highest second round picks, a third round pick, and a fourth round pick in next year's draft. She's struggled for Boston this season (which may be her or may be Boston), but she's undeniably talented and gives the Red Stars actual attacking ability in Press' absence and also width, which they've sorely lacked. I imagine she'll start over Da Costa (or Taylor Comeau, I guess). I love the deal for Chicago: they're in the hunt again, it hits their good spots, and one of the draft picks is probably that second they stole from Boston earlier.* For Boston, this is finally a rebuilding move, and one that makes sense.

McCaffrey was actually originally drafted by Chicago and then traded for two picks, which became Gilliland and Colaprico. Safe to say Chicago probably won that deal :p

*NWSL people on the internet are much more critical, noting the high number of picks, which is fair. A lot depends how you rate McCaffrey and I've pretty openly rated her highly (though others here are less positive, if I remember right).
   1494. Mefisto Posted: July 23, 2016 at 11:48 AM (#5270175)
It's hard to evaluate trades for draft choices, because we don't know the college talent pool. In my view, anything outside the first round is probably safe to give up. I'm not a big McCaffrey fan, but this will certainly help Chicago this year and that's probably all they wanted.
   1495. Baldrick Posted: July 23, 2016 at 12:52 PM (#5270184)
My match recap for USA-Costa Rica. Conclusion: best performance I've seen from Pugh yet. First time the unrelenting praise has really be deserved. She was awesome.
   1496. Baldrick Posted: July 23, 2016 at 01:05 PM (#5270189)
Re: McCaffrey trade. If Boston and Chicago weren't involved, I'd call this a win for the team acquiring the picks. McCaffrey is good, but next year's draft (according to those who know it better than me) is supposed to be pretty stacked. And that's a LOT of picks.

But Boston has shown no talent whatsoever at drafting, so there's every chance they just light these picks on fire like they've done with so many before. And on the other side, Chicago has done so well drafting in the past few years that they have a pretty well-stocked team and were less likely to be able to get full value from those picks.

Conclusion: this is probably a win-win. As long a Boston finds a way to do better in the draft than in years past.
   1497. Juilin Sandar to Conkling Speedwell (Arjun) Posted: July 23, 2016 at 10:42 PM (#5270397)
Ugh. I *really* hope Chicago can pull out a late goal, because, based on the flow of this game, this has no business being a draw.

DiBernardo has come too close on multiple occasions.
   1498. Baldrick Posted: July 24, 2016 at 02:22 AM (#5270432)
Was only able to watch the first 65 minutes (much of it on a tiny phone screen on the BART), but man was Houston lucky to escape with a point. Chicago was totally dominant for the first 30 and really should have had 2 or 3. DiBernardo really looked great, not just with those shots but with her control over the game as a whole.

Houston definitely look a bit better than in that long horrible run, and created just enough that a result from the game wasn't totally unreasonable. I really don't understand how they fell into such an extended funk, but this is a pretty good team who really ought to still be in the playoff hunt. Oh well.
   1499. I am going to be Frank Posted: July 24, 2016 at 02:57 PM (#5270626)
Watching the GWB-derby and wondering how NYCFC are any good. Sure they have Villa, Lampard and Pirlo but Red Bulls had free run of the middle right in front of the defense and it wasn't even close.
   1500. Sean Forman Posted: July 25, 2016 at 12:12 PM (#5271138)
flop
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