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Padres reliever Munoz, prospect Lawson have elbow surgery

SAN DIEGO (AP) — Hard-throwing Padres reliever Andres Munoz and minor leaguer Reggie Lawson underwent Tommy John surgery Friday.

Both right-handers were injured shortly before spring training was suspended due to the coronavirus pandemic.

Munoz, 21, made his big league debut last year and appeared in 22 games. He went 1-1 with a 3.91 ERA and 30 strikeouts, against 11 walks. He would have been a key member of the Padres’ beefed-up bullpen this season, if and when it resumes.

The 22-year-old Lawson was 3-1 with a 5.20 ERA in six starts with Double-A Amarillo last season before being shut down with an elbow injury. He returned for the Arizona Fall League, going 1-0 with a 0.82 ERA in three appearances, including two starts.

 

QLE Posted: March 21, 2020 at 01:12 AM | 24 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: andres munoz, reggie lawson, tommy john surgery

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   1. I Am Not a Number Posted: March 21, 2020 at 04:44 PM (#5932522)
How about this? Cancel the season. Everybody go get Tommy John surgery. We'll see you all next year.
   2. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: March 21, 2020 at 04:56 PM (#5932523)
Can't blame the individuals or acting in their best interest, but it's shameful that this is allowed.
   3. Dingbat_Charlie Posted: March 21, 2020 at 11:10 PM (#5932591)
Not surprised about Munoz. His delivery is about as violent as it gets, and his fastball pretty much sat at 100.
   4. flournoy Posted: March 22, 2020 at 07:37 PM (#5932696)
Can't blame the individuals or acting in their best interest, but it's shameful that this is allowed.


It took me a while to understand what you're talking about. I guess you're saying it's shameful that guys can get this sort of medical treatment in the current environment? I can't imagine that these guys getting surgery has any effect on coronavirus treatment capacity, any more than it would be if they had gotten eye exams or dental checkups.
   5. gef, talking mongoose & vexatious litigant Posted: March 22, 2020 at 09:42 PM (#5932710)
No, but I'm pretty sure a hold on all elective surgeries has been imposed.
   6. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: March 22, 2020 at 10:45 PM (#5932715)
It took me a while to understand what you're talking about. I guess you're saying it's shameful that guys can get this sort of medical treatment in the current environment? I can't imagine that these guys getting surgery has any effect on coronavirus treatment capacity, any more than it would be if they had gotten eye exams or dental checkups.

When you combine it with the fact that even asymptomatic athletes, actors, and politicians seem to have no issue getting tested, while obviously sick people are being turned away? The optics of this are appalling, and there should be no surprise that people are furious about this kind of double standard.
   7. flournoy Posted: March 23, 2020 at 07:17 AM (#5932727)
Maybe the optics are bad, but I'll leave that to others to decide. Is it actually bad? I don't think so.

Also, if the surgery is medically necessary for them to perform their jobs, I don't believe it classifies as elective.
   8. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: March 23, 2020 at 07:39 AM (#5932728)
I guess you're saying it's shameful that guys can get this sort of medical treatment in the current environment?


Yes.

I can't imagine that these guys getting surgery has any effect on coronavirus treatment capacity, any more than it would be if they had gotten eye exams or dental checkups.


It does when it uses up vital and in short supply medical supplies. If he gets his surgery with the doctors and nurses using homemade masks and gowns, fine.
   9. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: March 23, 2020 at 07:41 AM (#5932730)
Also, if the surgery is medically necessary for them to perform their jobs, I don't believe it classifies as elective.


He has no job right now. I doubt a construction worker who needs hernia surgery do do his job in 2 months can't get one right now. Or a porn actress who needs a boob job.
   10. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: March 23, 2020 at 08:08 AM (#5932739)
I doubt a construction worker who needs hernia surgery do do his job in 2 months can't get one right now.


Can get one.
   11. flournoy Posted: March 23, 2020 at 09:47 AM (#5932755)
It does when it uses up vital and in short supply medical supplies.


This probably took place at a small clinic that specializes in this sort of procedure where they had their own supplies in stock. Are they obligated to refuse business and donate all of their supplies to coronavirus treatment and research?
   12. Scott Lange Posted: March 23, 2020 at 11:01 AM (#5932767)
Are they obligated to refuse business and donate all of their supplies to coronavirus treatment and research?


Only morally.
   13. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: March 23, 2020 at 12:09 PM (#5932782)
This probably took place at a small clinic that specializes in this sort of procedure where they had their own supplies in stock.


And if there's complications and the patient has to go to a real hospital?

Are they obligated to refuse business and donate all of their supplies to coronavirus treatment and research?


Yes. Either we are all in this together, or screw it, let's lift all restrictions and get the economy moving, regardless of how many die.
   14. SoSH U at work Posted: March 23, 2020 at 12:12 PM (#5932784)
Yes. Either we are all in this together, or screw it, let's lift all restrictions and get the economy moving, regardless of how many die.


I agree. Their supplies can be used now, and the surgeries they perform now can be performed after they've been able to successfully restock. Hell, you could probably loan the equipment if the operations want to go the cheap route.

   15. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: March 23, 2020 at 12:44 PM (#5932790)
Donate the supplies and go work at a hospital or clinic. There are going to be temporary hospitals everywhere that will need staffing.
   16. bigglou115 is not an Illuminati agent Posted: March 23, 2020 at 01:23 PM (#5932808)
Well, let me be the voice of restraint here. While I don't know about performing surgery right now, it does seem like it's easier to say this from the outside. Not all of these guys are Andrews, if they don't operate for 6 months then they'll have to lay people off. Donating everything means that they don't know when they'll get new supplies, potentially extending their shut down longer than everywhere else.

I'm not saying it isn't the right thing to do, but it would be a scary thing to do.
   17. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: March 23, 2020 at 01:33 PM (#5932810)
Donating everything means that they don't know when they'll get new supplies, potentially extending their shut down longer than everywhere else.


Millions of people are out of work right now. Nurses in hospitals are using garbage bags and bandanas instead of gowns and masks. Temporary hospitals will need trained medical staff.
   18. bigglou115 is not an Illuminati agent Posted: March 23, 2020 at 02:02 PM (#5932824)
Millions of people are out of work right now. Nurses in hospitals are using garbage bags and bandanas instead of gowns and masks. Temporary hospitals will need trained medical staff.


Not everyone who works there is a trained medical professional, some of them might be of an age where they shouldn't be exposed, and what makes you think funding for pop up hospitals is going to go through at a rate were people are paid in a timely manner?
   19. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: March 23, 2020 at 02:29 PM (#5932835)
Not everyone who works there is a trained medical professional, some of them might be of an age where they shouldn't be exposed, and what makes you think funding for pop up hospitals is going to go through at a rate were people are paid in a timely manner?


Thousands of retired medical professionals are returning to work across the country. One suspects they are also of a certain age. Forgive me if I don't weep if these precious snowflakes have to forgo their boutique clinic and Beverly Hills salaries for a few months during an extreme national emergency.
   20. flournoy Posted: March 23, 2020 at 02:38 PM (#5932839)
Nobody here has any information about what the surgeon(s) could have done instead of this surgery, and what effects those actions would have had. So why are you so bent out of shape about it?
   21. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: March 23, 2020 at 02:52 PM (#5932845)
Not so much bent out of shape and the surgeons, but at the notion that at a time when millions are told to stay home and take a huge economic hit for the good of the country, someone thinks it wouldn't be fair for these guys to give up a little income in order to do greater good.
   22. PepTech Posted: March 23, 2020 at 03:09 PM (#5932852)
I'm with Misirlou. It's the principle. Will the three or four masks that get used on Munoz make a difference? I guess not. But when regular people can't get their teeth cleaned, or are told that their long-awaited IVF can't happen, an exception for a pro athlete is unseemly.
   23. PreservedFish Posted: March 23, 2020 at 03:20 PM (#5932858)
Also, these may have been (likely were?) semi-elective surgeries. A pitcher is often given a choice - go under the knife now, or try and strengthen through pitching, knowing that surgery may be inevitable some months or years down the road. It's a tough decision. But with no baseball in 2020, it becomes a no-brainer.
   24. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: March 23, 2020 at 04:32 PM (#5932897)
Yeah, and it would be great if construction workers could get their hernia operations out of the way now too while they are out of work anyway. But they can't.

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