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Tuesday, December 03, 2019

Pair of Japan players made available to major league teams

NEW YORK (AP) — Two players from Japan, Shun Yamaguchi and Ryosuke Kikuchi, have been made available to major league teams through the posting process.

Clubs have until Jan. 2 (5 p.m. EST) to negotiate with them, Major League Baseball said Tuesday.

Yamaguchi, a 32-year-old right-hander with the Yomiuri Giants, was 15-4 with a 2.91 ERA and 188 strikeouts in 170 innings. He led the Central League in wins and strikeouts, helping Yomiuri to its first Central League pennant in five years.

Kikuchi, a second baseman who turns 30 in March, hit .261 with 13 homers, 48 RBIs and 14 stolen bases for the Hiroshima Toyo Carp.

Another type of off-season signing to follow, for those with an interest in it.

 

QLE Posted: December 03, 2019 at 10:32 PM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: japanese baseball, posting rules, ryosuke kikuchi, shun yamaguchi

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   1. vortex of dissipation Posted: December 04, 2019 at 12:34 AM (#5905433)
Ryosuke Kikuchi has played his entire career for the Carp, my favorite Japanese team, so I'd love to be able to recommend him, but I can't. He's an exceptional fielder - he's won seven consecutive Golden Gloves at second base, including this season. That's every year he's been a regular. But I don't think he'd hit well in MLB. His lifetime NPB line is .271/.315/.391. It's kind of a weird record - in eight years, he's only hit over that .271 figure twice, at .315 and .325. Those are outliers - the last two years have been .233 and .261. He doesn't walk (only one season of 50+ walks), and has medium power (13 or 14 home runs each of the last four seasons). It's not the type of resume that suggests he'd be anywhere near valuable as a MLB hitter, and in a situation where the AL Golden Glove second baseman got non-tendered, the market for second basemen who are defensive wizards but poor hitters looks very bleak.
   2. DL from MN Posted: December 04, 2019 at 09:28 AM (#5905461)
Would Kikuchi be as bad as Tsuyoshi Nishioka was in MLB?
   3. PreservedFish Posted: December 04, 2019 at 09:36 AM (#5905464)
With all the talk around here of Mark Ellis deserving to be on the HOF ballot, I support Kikuchi's crazy dream.
   4. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 04, 2019 at 11:17 AM (#5905519)
I support the Mariners signing Kikuchi, so I won't have to remember which Kikuchi is on which team.
   5. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: December 04, 2019 at 11:20 AM (#5905521)
Japanese Gold Gloves are of pretty iffy provenance, but Kikuchi is truly an excellent fielder. I wouldn't pursue him, though, not a good hitter.

Not sure what to make of Yamaguchi, but seems like a decent bet as a back end guy.
   6. PreservedFish Posted: December 04, 2019 at 11:54 AM (#5905544)
I was always puzzled by So Taguchi. Taguchi hit something like .280/.330/.390 in Japan before he came over to the Cardinals. He played two years mostly in the minors. What was motivating him? But eventually, at age 34, he established himself as an MLB 4th outfielder, and got 1,000 ABs over the next three years. 2.2 WAR overall.
   7. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: December 04, 2019 at 11:57 AM (#5905548)
same.
   8. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 04, 2019 at 12:56 PM (#5905590)
What was motivating him?
Maybe just curiosity about living in the U.S. for a while? Not sure if he had a family, etc., but I know people who would jump at the opportunity to live and work in Japan (or elsewhere overseas) for a few years.
   9. The Mighty Quintana Posted: December 04, 2019 at 01:16 PM (#5905604)
What do we think of this guy?

ShogoAkiyama

Unfortunately, he'll be 32 in April, but if he can really play CF, seems like a 3-yr deal @ 30M would be a good investment?
   10. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: December 04, 2019 at 01:36 PM (#5905608)
I think he'll get less than that -- MLBTR projected 2/$6m and Kiley McDaniel wondered if he'd stay in Japan if he only gets one year, 4th of type offers.
I get the impression that the d has fallen off a bit and that a fourth outfielder role might be a good one for him ... if we did a stay-within-npb type comp, he looks like a poor man's Fukudome. That said, I definitely make inquiries if I need an outfielder.
   11. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: December 04, 2019 at 02:09 PM (#5905619)
Lede makes it sound like you have to purchase them as a matched set.
   12. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 04, 2019 at 02:22 PM (#5905629)
It's like adopting brother and sister kittens. It would be mean to separate them.
   13. vortex of dissipation Posted: December 04, 2019 at 03:13 PM (#5905657)
I was always puzzled by So Taguchi. Taguchi hit something like .280/.330/.390 in Japan before he came over to the Cardinals. He played two years mostly in the minors. What was motivating him? But eventually, at age 34, he established himself as an MLB 4th outfielder, and got 1,000 ABs over the next three years. 2.2 WAR overall.


Taguchi's lines in NPB and MLB are amazingly similar. In 12 seasons of NPB, he hit .276/.332/.384. In 8 seasons of MLB, he hit .279/.332/.385. That's about as close as you could come to putting up identical averages in both countries (and his performance in the US minor leagues was worse than either in all three categories).
   14. Dr. Vaux Posted: December 04, 2019 at 03:54 PM (#5905671)
Anecdotally, it seems like there have been players who approach relies less on power who have produced surprisingly close to the same numbers in AAA and MLB. Maybe differences in the ball, and amount of movement on pitches, and so forth, matter less for slap hitters than power hitters. One would think that defense would be better in the majors, too, but on the other hand, maybe not in AAA or NPB, which is substantially more advanced than AAA.
   15. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: December 04, 2019 at 04:15 PM (#5905682)
also, parks in japan have been smaller - homers are easier to come by there for that reason as well
   16. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 04, 2019 at 04:29 PM (#5905687)
It's like adopting brother and sister kittens. It would be mean to separate them.


My mom just did that, and it does seem like they get along really well, FWIW.

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