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Pete Rose, banned from baseball for betting on games, launches gambling podcast

Pete Rose gets it, and he knows what’s coming.

But even though it may not be the best thing for him to be doing considering he received a lifetime ban from Major League Baseball for gambling, he has launched a new gambling podcast.

“I know how it looks, and people will criticize,” Rose said, via USA Today. “But it’s not gambling. It’s handicapping. I’m a handicapper.”

Rose, of course, received a lifetime ban from the sport in 1989 after an investigation determined that he bet on games — including with the Cincinnati Reds while he was the manager.

Rose’s podcast — “Pete Rose’s Daily Picks” — will drop new episodes six days a week. Per USA Today, Rose will release five episodes each day lasting between 15 to 20 minutes, and one episode will last about an hour. He will be joined on the Quake Media show by Ben Wilson.

The podcast will include all sports, not just baseball.

“I watch two or three baseball games a day,” Rose said, via USA Today. “And it’s not just baseball. I watch all sports. I love sports. I know I can help people who want to wager on sports.”

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 08, 2021 at 09:21 AM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: October 08, 2021 at 09:28 AM (#6044722)
Turns out, Pete was just ahead of his time.
   2. Rally Posted: October 08, 2021 at 09:42 AM (#6044728)
This can only help in his quest to re-enter the good graces of baseball.

“You’re listening to a Cincinnati Reds baseball, brought to you by Pete Rose’s daily picks”
   3. Tin Angel Posted: October 08, 2021 at 10:19 AM (#6044740)
It's good to have hobbies as you get older.
   4. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 08, 2021 at 10:55 AM (#6044748)
It’s handicapping. I’m a handicapper.”
Just ask Ray Fosse.
   5. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: October 08, 2021 at 11:06 AM (#6044751)
How long until an active player gets in on this racket?

"Hi, I'm Mike Trout, and next to forecasting today's weather, my favorite hobby is forecasting today's winners in the fun, exciting, and totally harmless gambling gaming options brought to you by [high-bidding MLB Official Gambling Partner™]. For all my latest advice, join me right here 30 minutes before the first game of the day for Mike Trout's Daily Winners Forecast, and together we'll make it rain every day no matter what season we're in."
   6. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: October 08, 2021 at 11:59 AM (#6044764)
I guess if Rose has given up on ever getting back into baseball he figures he might as well just lean into things and make some money. Or maybe he sees the way sports betting has basically consumed the major sports and thinks it's open season at this point.

Also, wasn't Rose a famously terrible gambler?
   7. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: October 08, 2021 at 01:12 PM (#6044796)
I guess if Rose has given up on ever getting back into baseball he figures he might as well just lean into things and make some money. Or maybe he sees the way sports betting has basically consumed the major sports and thinks it's open season at this point.

You are giving Rose way too much benefit here.
   8. 57i66135 is available to babysit, for a price Posted: October 08, 2021 at 01:51 PM (#6044807)
i'm sure it will never be explicitly acknowledged by the powers that be, but at this point, isn't rose being kept out of baseball primarily because he's been credibly accused of statutory rape?
   9. RJ in TO Posted: October 08, 2021 at 02:00 PM (#6044811)
At this point, I think it's fairly clear that there are enough reasons to keep Rose out of baseball that there's no reason to designate one as a primary.
   10. RJ in TO Posted: October 08, 2021 at 02:01 PM (#6044812)
Also, to replace this double post, here is a video of someone doing the Pete Rose dive in one of the Wrigley urinal troughs.
   11. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 08, 2021 at 02:02 PM (#6044813)
Turns out, Pete was just ahead of his time.

You beat me to it. MLB has absolutely zero standing to criticize Rose or any other player who associates himself with gambling interests.
   12. Mayor Blomberg Posted: October 08, 2021 at 02:23 PM (#6044818)
So playing and gambling or managing and gambling is cool now, Andy?
   13. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 08, 2021 at 02:30 PM (#6044823)
Thinking fans should be allowed to gamble, but not people associated with the sport to gamble (which is illegal under most state laws that allow gambling) are two thoughts you can hold in your head at the same time.
   14. winnipegwhip Posted: October 08, 2021 at 02:44 PM (#6044832)
Pete Rose replaces Jimmy The Greek

19:16 mark Pete began his higher calling.
   15. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 08, 2021 at 04:14 PM (#6044853)

You beat me to it. MLB has absolutely zero standing to criticize Rose or any other player who associates himself with gambling interests.

MLB shouldn't criticize anyone for "associating himself with gambling interests" at this point. But I think they can still criticize someone who bets on games while playing/coaching/umpiring.

If Rose wants to have a gambling podcast, I don't think that should have any bearing on his reinstatement into the game. As others have said, there are plenty of other good reasons to oppose that.
   16. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 08, 2021 at 04:38 PM (#6044861)
Is it the same reason Billy Martin won't get in? Or do folks think he didn't do enuf as player and/or manager?
   17. SoSH U at work Posted: October 08, 2021 at 04:46 PM (#6044862)
He definitely didn’t do enough as a player. He was lousy.
   18. Ron J Posted: October 08, 2021 at 06:05 PM (#6044889)
#8 No. Bud Selig explained MLB's stance with unusual clarity.

Rose agreed to a permanent ban and never provided any reason for MLB to rescind it. This hasn't changed.
   19. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: October 08, 2021 at 06:13 PM (#6044891)
Near as I can tell, Rose has spent the past 35 years accumulating reasons to not rescind the ban. If you didn't know better, you'd think that he's doing it on purpose. (But we know better - see #7.)
   20. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: October 08, 2021 at 07:52 PM (#6044906)
Also, wasn't Rose a famously terrible gambler?

which means you could make money fading him. Someone who's almost always wrong is just as valuable as someone who's almost always right
   21. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 08, 2021 at 08:02 PM (#6044910)
So playing and gambling or managing and gambling is cool now, Andy?

No, but neither is MLB's partnering with gambling interests. It's just pathetic.
   22. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 08, 2021 at 08:05 PM (#6044912)
Thinking fans should be allowed to gamble

Then just decriminalize gambling. I'd be all in favor of that. But having MLB encourage it is another story altogether.
   23. baxter Posted: October 08, 2021 at 11:26 PM (#6044941)
4. Thank you Face, one of the main reasons to read this site.
   24. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 09, 2021 at 10:04 AM (#6044967)
Related:

Felipe Hernandez suspended for betting on MLS matches

Major League Soccer has suspended Sporting Kansas City midfielder Felipe Hernandez without pay for the remainder of 2021 due to violations of the league’s gambling integrity rules and standards of conduct. Hernandez engaged in extensive and unlawful sports gambling while a member of Sporting Kansas City that included placing wagers on two MLS matches, in direct contravention of league rules.

MLS initiated an investigation on July 5, 2021, after Hernandez disclosed to Sporting Kansas City that he was concerned about his personal safety due to his gambling debts. MLS and Sporting Kansas City immediately took steps to refer the matter to law enforcement and ensure that Hernandez received necessary support and counseling.


Link.
   25. Ron J Posted: October 09, 2021 at 10:31 AM (#6044970)
#24 I know back in the day MLB used to have retired FBI agents give a talk on the matter. Not "gambling is evil", but "MLB will bring the hammer down if you have money on MLB games."

No idea if they still do. The retired FBI agents seemingly helped to convey how seriously MLB took that matter.
   26. Captain Joe Bivens, Elderly Northeastern Jew Posted: October 09, 2021 at 03:53 PM (#6045024)


which means you could make money fading him. Someone who's almost always wrong is just as valuable
as someone who's almost always right


I think both those situations are rare. Given that every pick is basically a coin flip, with the 10% vig, or the odds used in baseball, it's hard to justify gambling large mounts of money, given that the regression toward 50% will eat at your ROI.

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