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1. Hurdle's Heroes (SuperBaes) Posted: August 24, 2006 at 05:41 AM (#2154929)Paulino's a nice guy and a hard worker, and he'll never be more than average at the position. Average-at-best isn't going to get this team anywhere worth going.
Oh - Ryan Doumit better learn to like Pepsi.
The difference is, I believe, that the current regime actually signed McCutchen. The other players mentioned were all from different eras. I doubt they mess with McCutchen. I know the coaching staff and front office were very impressed by McCutchen in spring training and sometimes that carries as much weight as anything. In fact, given his recent spurt in AA, he may start the season in AA and proceed to AAA in 2007.
My real problem with this is they need to either let Doumit start over Nady at 1B or tell Doumit to go start at catcher in AAA so they can trade him in the off-season to another club. My preference would be to have him start over Nady, because I think Nady is a pointless player for the Pirates to have. He's well suited to be a role player on a contender, but isn't good enough to be more than a stopgap on a rebuilding team.
I'd rather have Doumit, Paulino, and Nady on the field at this point than Doumit, Nady, and Burnitz. If you want to put McLouth into the picture, it should be Doumit, Paulino, and McLouth.
Xavier Nady is a major league ballplayer with more than one season of numbers on the back of his baseball card. He will play until his injuries or ennui force him to the sidelines. You need proven MLB players to win. It would never enter Jim Tracy's or Dave Littlefield's mind to sit a recently acquired big leaguer to find out if one of their prospects could be a better player. It's not going to happen now or ever.
As for Paulino - he can improve, but the adulation his play generated from the team personnel and then the media overlooked his mistakes and errors. Paulino can be an average MLB catcher - absolutely. And I don't think he came out of nowhere - I have been following him since I saw him in the CL several seasons ago. And he was selected by the Royals in the Rule 5 a few years back (but didn't stick for whatever reason). A catching tandem of Doumit-Paulino is a good basis for the Pirates.
I'm not sure if you're serious when you say "You need proven MLB players to win." or you are just putting forth the rhetoric you expect out of the Pirates front office. I was describing what I think the Pirates should do, not what I expect them to. If I was the GM, I would not have traded for Nady. If they made me GM tomorrow, I would not have Nady figuring very highly in my future plans.
Also, I think it's understating what Paulino has done this year to say he can be an average catcher. He's basically been an average starting catcher since getting the job full-time. Hardball Times has him at 18th in win shares amongst all catcher in the big leagues even though he has slightly less playing time because he didn't begin the year as a starter. I don't think it makes sense for either him or Doumit to be in a situation where they are trying to split time, at least not when the Pirates can easily plug Doumit in every day at first base (not that they actually will).
Not surprisingly, the Pirates have basically (forget)ed up a perfectly obvious situation from the beginning of the year and continue to (forget) it up on a daily basis.
What the Pirates did do:
The Pirates could have done the following at the beginning of the season:
1. Not signed Turditz.
2. Not signed Randa.
3. Not traded for Casey.
4. Not signed Jose Hernandez.
5. Kept Doumit and Paulino to start the season.
Assume a crappy team like the Pirates averages 4 PA per position per game (forget the pitcher for now). That's 4*162 = 648 PA per position.
They could have gotten Jose Castillo, Nate McLouth, Chris Duffy, Freddy Sanchez, Jose Bautista, Craig Wilson, Ryan Doumit, and Ron Paulino 648*6/8 = 486 *regular* PA per person at 1b, 3b, CF, RF, 2b, and 3b (don't even get me started about Jack Wilson). That's 3/4 of a 162 game season, or about 120 games (and that's assuming that The Bad Wilson and Jason Bay get 162 games at the other two spots and not accounting for IL DH'ing). You spread out the days off regularly so guys don't get too tired or too rusty (the Jim Leyland Approach).
You keep Gookie Dawkins around in case you need a spare MI, Mike Edwards around if you need a spare corner IF, and Rich Thompson around if you need a PR/spare centerfielder (or Cota as an 2nd emergency catcher, if you don't want Wilson to catch on the days you burn both Paulino and Doumit). Everyone gets time and at the end of the year you have a very good idea of what your 8 players can do given regular PT.
What DID they do?
1. Obtained Burnitz, Casey, and Randa to block basically ALL of the players mentioned above, except for the catchers and Castillo. Hernandez soaks up valuable MI and 1b (!!) at bats during rest days for the first three + Wilson/Castillo.
2. Kept and used Cota to block Doumit.
3. Jerked Nate McLouth and Chris Duffy around to the point that McLouth sucked worse than he has at any level EVER and Duffy becomes a complete mental disaster. The only upside is that Bautista manages to walk and bash his way into a semi-regular spot in the lineup.
4. Randa gets hurt (thank God), Sanchez luckily catches fire and steals his job.
5. Trade Wilson AND Casey and replace them with a guy who is worse than both (which would normally not be possible, but this is David Littlefield).
6. Cota totally bites and Doumit gets hurt and the Pirates are forced to play Paulino because, God help us, we can't use Craig Wilson
at catcher.
So, basically, if we are not lucky enough to have Sanchez, Paulino, and Bautista basically luck into positions, then the Pirates spent something like $15-20 million to
A) Get worse than if they had gone with what they had
B) Get no knowledge about the abilities of their young players
C) Get their young players no realistically reasonable amoount of playing experience
D) Trade off the only reasonably expensive parts that were actually worth something.
Following this team is like a nightmare, only it lasts 15 (20? 25?) years and you never wake up. We're talking about 5 good years since 1980. That's (forget)ed up.
Exactly. Anyone signed under Littlefield/Creech/Graham will get fifteen gazillion chances before the Bucs give up; anyone left over from the Bonifay and/or Mickey White eras will be set up to fail.
Nady is Craig Wilson cheap(er); he'll be kept around until he becomes expensive, and then he'll be traded away for the next Wilson/Nady cheap(er).
-- MWE
I forgot those dang tags again, sorry about that - </sarcasm>.
That Littlefield acquired Nady doesn't surprise - afterall, he was the main target during the Brian Giles talks with SD. What role he fills on the Pirates other than being a MLB player beats me.
As for Paulino, again, I like the guy and hope he makes it, but I have little confidence yet that he can repeat his performance or improve.
Didn't you forget
Hire Jim Tracy and his staff?
That's not totally accurate... Nady's best OPS+ in a close to full season is 106. Craig Wilson's WORST OPS+ in a full season is 104. Nady wishes he could hit as well as Craig Wilson.
According to management, first-base defense is key for the young starters.
They soured on Casey not because he can't hit for power to save his life, or because he's always hurt, but because they expected him to be a better defender than he was.
How this fits with giving the position to Randall Simon two years ago, I can't really say.
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