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Sunday, July 11, 2021

Pittsburgh Pirates draft Louisville catcher Henry Davis with No. 1 pick; Jack Leiter goes to Texas Rangers at No. 2

The Pittsburgh Pirates selected Louisville catcher Henry Davis with the first pick in baseball’s amateur draft on Sunday night.

In a draft without a clear-cut top prospect, it remained unclear who the Pirates would go with until the selection was announced.

Regarded as the best college hitter in the draft, Davis exploded at the plate this year, hitting .370/.482/.663 with 15 home runs and more walks than strikeouts (31 to 24) over 50 games. Known as a defense-first catcher coming out of high school, Davis hit .280 with three home runs as a freshman in 2019 and was hitting well before the COVID-19 pandemic.

The No. 4 player on ESPN’s Kiley McDaniel’s top 200 draft board, Davis has top-shelf arm strength, which McDaniel grades as an 80 on the 20-to-80 scale, although the rest of his defense needs work.

Pittsburgh general manager Ben Cherington said the club decided to pick Davis on Saturday night. His scouts were impressed not just by Davis’ abilities, but also his eagerness to learn and hunger to improve.

“He checks a lot of boxes,’’ Cherington said. “We’ve had a lot of fun getting to know him.’‘

 

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   1. The Duke Posted: July 11, 2021 at 10:41 PM (#6028682)
I thought this was a great pick for them.

While the mock draft guys got very few specifically right they pretty much nailed the first round overall. I’m always amazed at how good the writers are on this stuff. The royals made a puzzling pick but most of the rest seemed right in line with projections
   2. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 11, 2021 at 11:20 PM (#6028685)
Royals went underslot so they could presumably go for Will Taylor in Round 2.

Ty Madden is the real puzzler. Did he have any kind of injury concerns? I thought he finished strong and was a workhorse for Texas this year. Detroit got a steal it seems.
   3. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 12, 2021 at 12:34 AM (#6028688)
Looks like the A's got Max Muncy 2.0. Guess they were feeling remorse over how they handled the OG Max Muncy and wanted a redo.
   4. Snowboy Posted: July 12, 2021 at 01:53 AM (#6028692)
#2 pick Jack Leiter (BR Bullpen) is the son of retired pitcher Al Leiter.
At Vanderbilt this year, he went 11-4, 2.13, 179K in 110IP
   5. O Tempura, O Morays ('Spos) Posted: July 12, 2021 at 07:24 AM (#6028698)
I thought he was Mark's kid, making him Al's nephew.
   6. GregD Posted: July 12, 2021 at 09:34 AM (#6028707)
Al is the dad. The Marks are his uncle and cousin
   7. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: July 12, 2021 at 09:41 AM (#6028710)
Mark's son was drafted in 2013 and he had a cup of coffee with both Philly and Toronto.
   8. Rally Posted: July 12, 2021 at 10:09 AM (#6028716)
That crowd really had it in for Manfred. Every time he came up to announce a pick he had to talk over the boos.
   9. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: July 12, 2021 at 10:47 AM (#6028726)
That crowd really had it in for Manfred. Every time he came up to announce a pick he had to talk over the boos.

If MLB really wants to make this an event, they should have an MC announce the picks. Manfred, among his other weaknesses, is not a charismatic public speaker. Plus they had to know he would get booed.
   10. DL from MN Posted: July 12, 2021 at 11:11 AM (#6028730)
they should have an MC announce the picks


Shouldn't be too hard to find an ex-jock broadcaster
   11. Rally Posted: July 12, 2021 at 11:22 AM (#6028734)
I’m not surprised that Manfred would be booed by a lot of people. But I thought the room would mostly be reporters and kids (+ their familes) waiting to be drafted. I don’t think that group would be booing. Must have been a lot of general fans too.
   12. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: July 12, 2021 at 11:23 AM (#6028737)
That crowd really had it in for Manfred. Every time he came up to announce a pick he had to talk over the boos.

Is there a commissioner in any sport who doesn't get booed in public? Hell, it's practically a tradition.

Since they're absolutely determined to make the MLB Draft-as-media-spectacle a thing(*), they should go big and have a beloved former star from each team announce at least the first round. (Wouldn't it be great to see, say, Yaz reading the Red Sox pick, or Donnie Baseball for the Yankees?)

*You know, like the NBA and NFL drafts are! Never mind that baseball is a very different sport from football or basketball, and that unlike in those sports, MLB draft picks (even the first-rounders) are years away from making an impact on the big club, or that the casual fan couldn't name most of these kids on a bet.
   13. CFBF's Results are Certified Posted: July 12, 2021 at 11:35 AM (#6028740)
David Stern announcing NBA draft picks was like one of those sci-fi movie monsters who drew strength from the various human attempts to kill him using bullets and bombs. He just soaked up the boos and loved every second of them.
   14. O Tempura, O Morays ('Spos) Posted: July 12, 2021 at 11:37 AM (#6028742)
Al is the dad. The Marks are his uncle and cousin

Mark's son was drafted in 2013 and he had a cup of coffee with both Philly and Toronto.


Thanks, I had forgotten Mark 2.
   15. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: July 12, 2021 at 01:19 PM (#6028758)
Oh, Jaden Hill goes to the Rockies. Injury issues, bit of an Anthony Ranaudo pick, guy who was seen as a potential top ten but injuries scared teams off. But not a bad gamble in the second round.
   16. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: July 12, 2021 at 02:17 PM (#6028766)
Harold Reynolds is my pick for MC.

   17. . . . . . . Posted: July 12, 2021 at 02:31 PM (#6028770)
The royals made a puzzling pick but most of the rest seemed right in line with projections


I think picking an underslot pitcher you have some confidence in is actually a pretty savvy and not at all puzzling idea. Especially with no A+ HS pitching talent this year.
   18. BDC Posted: July 12, 2021 at 02:33 PM (#6028772)
Rangers drafting Leiter reminds me once again of something I've probably wondered aloud about, here, before.

Baseball seems unusual in the number of fathers and sons, or even grandfather-father-son families, who feature really good players in successive generations. Obviously it's not unheard of in other sports, and there are examples of great father/son parlays in other sports (the Mannings, the Hulls). But they seem far more numerous in baseball. Or am I just uninformed about this?

Thus there is something about baseball, either in its amenability to early training & exposure – or alternatively in the culture of baseball as a kind of family institution – or both … that lends itself to these combos. You don't have to have some outlier genetic makeup to star at baseball; counterintuitively, the prevalence of family "legacies" in the sport relative to other sports argues against that. But it is not a matter of nepotism; the cases where a guy gets a scholarship or even drafted via connections but can't play are weeded out pretty fast. Even a son who is just an ordinary player – Dale Berra comes to mind – still has to make the plays and get the base hits at an ordinary major-league level, which is a very high level indeed.

I don't know why this is exactly, but it's interesting …
   19. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: July 12, 2021 at 02:36 PM (#6028773)
Baseball is more of a skill than innate talent (compared to most sports), so there is an advantage to a rich son of an MLB player to develop that skill.

The only sport that is even less athletic talent is auto racing, which has even more father/son combos.


   20. SoSH U at work Posted: July 12, 2021 at 02:45 PM (#6028775)
The only sport that is even less athletic talent is auto racing, which has even more father/son combos.


I wouldn't say the only sport (golf comes to mind), but I think the explanation is spot-on.
   21. Rally Posted: July 12, 2021 at 02:54 PM (#6028776)
Harold Reynolds is my pick for MC.


Last night Harold was interviewing Kumar Rocker and started by saying something like "Hi Kumar, this is Harold". At that moment I was waiting for him to invite the kid to grab some burgers at White Castle.
   22. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: July 12, 2021 at 02:56 PM (#6028778)
Baseball seems unusual in the number of fathers and sons, or even grandfather-father-son families, who feature really good players in successive generations. Obviously it's not unheard of in other sports, and there are examples of great father/son parlays in other sports (the Mannings, the Hulls). But they seem far more numerous in baseball. Or am I just uninformed about this?


I don't know about uninformed but hockey seems to have a truly epic number of familial links. Just as a random bet I'd pick the NHL as the most heavily father/sonned league besides auto racing.
   23. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: July 12, 2021 at 02:58 PM (#6028779)
MLB headline for the Padres is "Padres start Day 2 with OF Wood." You can't tell me the guy writing that didn't DESPERATELY want to leave the position off the headline.
   24. SoSH U at work Posted: July 12, 2021 at 03:00 PM (#6028781)
I don't know about uninformed but hockey seems to have a truly epic number of familial links. Just as a random bet I'd pick the NHL as the most heavily father/sonned league besides auto racing.


Also very skill-intensive (particularly given the skating barrier to entry).
   25. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: July 12, 2021 at 03:48 PM (#6028789)
I feel like there are a number of legacies in the NBA now, more than MLB I'd guess. Passing down height is a major advantage of course, but teaching skills at a young age is also very helpful. A lot of the legacies are more skill-based players without otherworldly athleticism: Steph/Seth Curry, Klay Thompson, Kevin Love, and Austin Rivers come immediately to mind.
   26. Zach Posted: July 12, 2021 at 04:27 PM (#6028795)
I think picking an underslot pitcher you have some confidence in is actually a pretty savvy and not at all puzzling idea. Especially with no A+ HS pitching talent this year.

I see the logic, but that's a tough sell when the top pick is compensation for a whole year of losing and Kumar Rocker is on the board.
   27. Zach Posted: July 12, 2021 at 04:28 PM (#6028797)
I hate tanking, but "Tank for Rocker!" is one thing, and "Tank for bonus pool money!" another.
   28. JJ1986 Posted: July 12, 2021 at 04:47 PM (#6028802)
Will Taylor is going to Clemson (to play football).
   29. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: July 12, 2021 at 05:07 PM (#6028807)
Baseball is more of a skill than innate talent


You'd think that in at least some sports "innate talent" would be something genetic. Like, I bet being built like a lineman (or, at least, having the capacity to develop a lineman's body) is the sort of thing that runs in families.
   30. GregD Posted: July 12, 2021 at 05:07 PM (#6028808)
Kevin Love,


I only vaguely remembered who his father was. Looking him up, I was even more surprised by Kevin’s uncle and cousins. Good vibrations indeed.
   31. John DiFool2 Posted: July 12, 2021 at 05:20 PM (#6028810)
The family tie thing likely depends most strongly on just how wide the net is in terms of athletes who are full timers at the top level (and then how many are at the elite level). Per team, football has 22 (+ the punter/kicker), baseball ~14-15, hockey is tricky to quantify because of how often teams change lines but we'll say 16, the NBA only 5-6.

Oddly golf has had the most abysmal failure for following generations to follow in the footsteps of their forebears (which if the theory in #18 has any validity is strange since golf kids would have both the pedigree and the opportunity), but again that may be because there are only 100-150 full timers on the PGA Tour (+ international players), but only a small handful of those win at least 1 major. The most notable would likely be Tommy Armour III, who only won a few tournaments.
   32. Esmailyn Gonzalez Sr. Posted: July 12, 2021 at 05:23 PM (#6028812)
I don't know about uninformed but hockey seems to have a truly epic number of familial links. Just as a random bet I'd pick the NHL as the most heavily father/sonned league besides auto racing.

You mean brothers. OK, there are sons here too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutter_family
   33. SoSH U at work Posted: July 12, 2021 at 05:44 PM (#6028814)
The most notable would likely be Tommy Armour III, who only won a few tournaments.


I'd say Bill Haas is the most successful, having won the year-end tournament and a few other events.
   34. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: July 12, 2021 at 06:26 PM (#6028818)
Speaking of father-son combos, Darren Baker was just drafted in the 10th round by the Nats.

There are a lot of father-son (or other familial) combos in different sports, too. Barry Larkin’s son played in the NBA. Kumar Rocker’s dad played in the NFL. Karl Malone’s son played in the NBA (and his daughter in the WNBA). Patrick Mahomes’ father Pat was an MLB pitcher. Klay Thompson has a brother who played for the White Sox. Just a few examples.
   35. Walt Davis Posted: July 12, 2021 at 06:30 PM (#6028820)
Tennis seems to have (a) very few elite slots and (b) no important multi-generation combinations that spring to mind and only the Williams spring to mind as siblings. (I'm not a big tennis fan ... and I suspect there are things like sibling doubles teams or dad won Wimbledon doubles examples.) Yet it seems they all started playing tennis at 6 so presumably from "tennis families" of some sort.
   36. Space Force fan Posted: July 12, 2021 at 06:56 PM (#6028821)
A rising multi-sport family is the Kordas. Father won the Aussie Open and his mother was a top ranked tennis player. He is the fastest rising young American male tennis player. His sister is the #1 ranked women golfer with another sister in the top ten of women's golf.
   37. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: July 12, 2021 at 06:57 PM (#6028823)
Patrick McEnroe (John’s brother) was a reasonably successful tennis player.
   38. Space Force fan Posted: July 12, 2021 at 07:00 PM (#6028824)
Another tennis example is the Bryan brothers who are probably the best doubles team of all time with about 120 tournament wins.
   39. Pirate Joe Posted: July 12, 2021 at 07:31 PM (#6028827)
Since they're absolutely determined to make the MLB Draft-as-media-spectacle a thing(*), they should go big and have a beloved former star from each team announce at least the first round. (Wouldn't it be great to see, say, Yaz reading the Red Sox pick, or Donnie Baseball for the Yankees?)



I really thought that's what they were doing this year. A few days ago the Pirates announced that Neil Walker was going to represent the team at the draft. I assumed, right up until Manfred said "with the first pick..." that he was going to bring Walker out to announce the pick.

If he wasn't announcing the pick, I wonder what the purpose of him being there was?

   40. Mike A Posted: July 12, 2021 at 07:31 PM (#6028828)
For recent golf, I'd probably go with another Love - Davis Love III. Although his dad (Davis Love Jr) was more of a teaching professional, he did play in 15 major championships and finished 6th in the 1969 British Open. Davis III won the PGA Championship and is in the Golf Hall of Fame. If you want to go waaaaay back, it's Old and Young Tom Morris, both Hall of Famers.

But, yeah, golf isn't filled with father/son stars probably because of what @31 mentions. Gary Nicklaus, son of arguable GOAT Jack, was a very talented golfer but still not good enough to get over the hump.
   41. sunday silence (again) Posted: July 12, 2021 at 09:32 PM (#6028863)
The most notable would likely be Tommy Armour III, who only won a few tournaments.


JC Snead was Sam Snead's nephew. He was actually better than people remember. He was twice runner up in a major and twice runner up in the TPC which is sort of like a major.

Possibly the best is another pair not mentioned: the Hebert's: Lionel and Jay. They each won PGA championships 3 years apart (1957 and 1960). They were pretty consistently good players. There were also two sets of brothers who won back in the turn of the century the Parks and the Smiths.

Jay was wounded on Mt. Suribachi, and one time a reporter asked him if the 16th at Firestone was tougher than Iwo. He was pretty dead panned in his response.
   42. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: July 12, 2021 at 10:56 PM (#6028897)
Another tennis example is the Bryan brothers who are probably the best doubles team of all time with about 120 tournament wins.

When someone mentioned tennis doubles, my first thought was "those brothers who've won everything".

https://tennispredict.com/best-tennis-doubles-players-of-all-time/
   43. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: July 13, 2021 at 07:26 AM (#6028907)
Karl Malone’s son played in the NBA

Just to correct myself, Malone’s son played in the NFL. I knew this but somehow typed it wrong yesterday.
   44. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: July 13, 2021 at 08:12 AM (#6028908)
I think picking an underslot pitcher you have some confidence in is actually a pretty savvy and not at all puzzling idea. Especially with no A+ HS pitching talent this year.


Yeah. Because teams can't trade draft picks sometimes you gotta go off the board if you really believe in someone. And of course if you can manage that to better yourself later to get someone then you have to have the confidence to do it. The guys at SoxProspects.com (a Red Sox prospect site) note that teams generally don't underspend their pool. They just spend it differently. If a team does underspend the pool then yeah, they deserve all the criticism they get.

That Royals pick was an odd one though. Like just about everyone I'm as uninformed as possible on this stuff. One of the things I do as a little check is compare the draft pick with the rankings by BA or MLB (e.g. MLB has Henry Davis ranked 5th, Pirates took him 1st, OK makes some sense). Anyway one thing that strikes me about the Royals draft so far is every selection they've made has been ranked lower than their slot. There isn't anywhere they are obviously buying someone out of a college commitment.
   45. Rally Posted: July 13, 2021 at 08:57 AM (#6028913)
Just to correct myself, Malone’s son played in the NFL. I knew this but somehow typed it wrong yesterday.


Didn’t know that and looked it up. A few Malones in the NFL, but not his kids. His son Karl Jr did an NFL combine, but did not play in the league. Then saw the son who did was Demetress Bell, whose mother was 13 at his birth and Karl was 20. Disgusting. He must be a fortunate result of statute of limitations or something.
   46. SoSH U at work Posted: July 13, 2021 at 09:18 AM (#6028916)
Bell is an example, in the other direction, of the point made above. He never played football until he got to college. You don't see that with MLB players.
   47. Zach Posted: July 13, 2021 at 12:32 PM (#6028939)
There's barely any video online about Mozzicato and a lot of it was taken before he had a big velocity spike this last year.

It was such a weird year, I could see the hype train being out of date. But it would be nice to see something from this spring.
   48. Shohei Brotani (formerly LA Hombre) Posted: July 13, 2021 at 02:32 PM (#6028952)
The Angels have picked 20 pitchers, 19 of them college arms. It looks like they're trying to replace their entire minor league pitching stock all in one go.
   49. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: July 13, 2021 at 02:42 PM (#6028954)
The Angels have picked 20 pitchers, 19 of them college arms. It looks like they're trying to replace their entire MAJOR LEAGUE BULLPEN all in one go.


Fixed that for you. Seriously, pick the best 10 and bring them up right now to replace everyone but Iglesias.
   50. Mefisto Posted: July 13, 2021 at 03:26 PM (#6028955)
The Giants took pitchers on 9 of their first 10 picks. Between them and the Angels, I'm surprised there are any left.
   51. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: July 13, 2021 at 03:59 PM (#6028956)
The Dodgers took pitchers with their first 15 picks.
   52. Mefisto Posted: July 13, 2021 at 04:59 PM (#6028959)
Let's hope they got the bad ones. And the ones with weak shoulders and elbows.
   53. Shohei Brotani (formerly LA Hombre) Posted: July 13, 2021 at 05:09 PM (#6028961)
The thinking seems to be that, because the 2020 covid-impacted draft was so short, a lot of juniors that would have otherwise been drafted stayed the extra year, which meant this year's draft had an overabundance of system-ready pitching prospects. If you needed some pitching depth in your farm system, this year was the year to address that.
   54. Rally Posted: July 14, 2021 at 07:36 AM (#6029004)
By position

C 45
P 355
SS 69
OF 82
1B 16
3B 24
2B 21

58% of those drafted were pitchers.
   55. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: July 14, 2021 at 08:13 AM (#6029006)
58% of those drafted were pitchers.


As crazy as that seems what percentage of players in MLB are pitchers? It's got to be over 50, every team has at least a 13-13 split if not 12 player/14 pitcher split right?
   56. TomH Posted: July 14, 2021 at 08:18 AM (#6029011)
If infinitely large bag with 58% red marbles, the odds of drawing 20 out of 20 red are .58^20 = 1 in 54,000.
   57. Rally Posted: July 14, 2021 at 08:40 AM (#6029013)
It looks to me consistent with the percentage of pitchers in each full organization. Pitchers get hurt more often, so even if active rosters are close to 50/50 there are more pitchers under contract at any time.
   58. TomH Posted: July 14, 2021 at 08:42 AM (#6029014)
Do catchers drafted in round 1, or narrowing down in the top 5 or 10, pan out as well? It seems to me developing a catcher is a unique thing, and this could be reflected in a comparison of catchers drafted vs others. I am not aware of studies published on this.

Joe Mauer obviously turned out OK.
   59. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: July 14, 2021 at 09:07 AM (#6029017)
First round catchers;

145 drafted through 2018 (taking out 2019-2020)
94 have made MLB (64.8%)

That seems to be slightly lower than the overall average for first round picks making it. I don't know how to do a search by round for a span of years. It seems that the catchers who make it seem to have a high success rate once they get there. 27 of the 94 had 10 WAR or more which seems to be a slightly higher rate than overall totals (that bit is anecdotal after just scanning a few years of first round picks).
   60. JJ1986 Posted: July 14, 2021 at 09:17 AM (#6029019)
At some point recently, 1st round HS catchers were considered to be a terrible return. I'm thinking of guys like Nick Ciuffo and Clint Coulter, but I'd be interested to know if that holds up statistically.
   61. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: July 14, 2021 at 09:29 AM (#6029020)
At some point recently, 1st round HS catchers were considered to be a terrible return. I'm thinking of guys like Nick Ciuffo and Clint Coulter, but I'd be interested to know if that holds up statistically.

I remember starting to see stories about that around the time the Tyler Houston (1989 #2 overall) and Ryan Luzinski (1992 1st round #32 overall, but IIRC was hyped much more than that) busted.
   62. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: July 14, 2021 at 09:56 AM (#6029022)
(Continuing the thought in [61]....)

And as a Rangers fan, I only had that belief reinforced by the selection of Scott Heard (2000 #25 overall). The pre-draft hype was that he may have been one of the best defensive HS catchers ever. "MLB ready defensively on draft day!" OTOH, he failed to hit even .300 as a HS senior. Bounced between Rookie and A ball for a year and a half. Spent a year and a half at A ball hitting .213. Got bumped up to A+ at age 21 and hit .243 in a half-season before either retiring or being released. And now that BR has minor league SB/CS numbers, I can see that he threw out only 20% of base stealers in his minor league career.
   63. Rally Posted: July 14, 2021 at 11:13 AM (#6029026)
I wonder how much the narrative of “never draft a catcher in the first round” is based on Steve Chilcott.

Since bbref allows an easy draft search by position and round, I see some good early successes of taking high school catchers in the first round

1967 10. Ted Simmons
1970 4. Darrell Porter
1974 5. Dale Murphy - didn’t succeed as a catcher but hard to complain about the pick
1976 19. Mike Scioscia

We’re in a bit of a drought now, it’s been 20 years since Mauer and no big successes for first round HS catchers. Neil Walker did have a good career at other positions. Among those who stayed at catcher, the best since Joe are Mesaraco and d’Arnaud.

   64. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: July 14, 2021 at 11:50 AM (#6029037)
FWIW, I believe the majority of players on teams' 40-man rosters who are pitchers is typically a little above 50% - another data point that suggests you'd expect more than half of draft picks to be pitchers, as well.

In terms of the catcher thing, I'd be curious to the answer to a flipped-around version of the question: What is the most typical profile of a *successful* major-league catcher? Has that changed over the past 50 years? College vs high school draftee? International signee? Somebody who took up catching relatively late in their baseball development (and thus, might have less wear and tear on them as they go into their late 20s, etc.)? Or is it possible that a big part of it is that there are so few catchers that end up being "plus" hitters, and the role of the running game has diminished, and technology may be diminishing the value of good framing, that the difference between, say, the 5th-best catcher in baseball and the 20th-best catcher in baseball, in terms of their impact on the game, is smaller than ever?

   65. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 14, 2021 at 12:13 PM (#6029041)
We’re in a bit of a drought now, it’s been 20 years since Mauer and no big successes for first round HS catchers. Neil Walker did have a good career at other positions. Among those who stayed at catcher, the best since Joe are Mesaraco and d’Arnaud.


Bryce Harper was a catcher in high school, although the Nats had no intention of leaving him there. It seems like if you're looking at a catcher who can really hit, the prudent thing to do is to move him from behind the plate.
   66. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: July 14, 2021 at 01:35 PM (#6029051)
We’re in a bit of a drought now, it’s been 20 years since Mauer and no big successes for first round HS catchers.

Tyler Stephenson (2015, 11th overall) has a chance to stick. He's hit .283/.382/.443 in 246 PAs to date. He'll start if the Reds don't pick up Tucker Barnhart's option for next year.
   67. GregD Posted: July 14, 2021 at 03:36 PM (#6029061)
Ryan Luzinski (1992 1st round #32 overall, but IIRC was hyped much more than that)
I don't remember the pick. It is hard for me to picture a child of Greg Luzinski as a catcher. Was he Lombardi-esque?
   68. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: July 14, 2021 at 03:52 PM (#6029067)
Bryce Harper was a catcher in high school


Wil Myers too. He was a catcher through the low minors.
   69. Mefisto Posted: July 14, 2021 at 06:53 PM (#6029116)
Posey was a SS and P in high school when the Angels drafted him. He stayed at SS his first year at FSU before switching to C.
   70. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: July 15, 2021 at 09:21 AM (#6029156)
It is hard for me to picture a child of Greg Luzinski as a catcher. Was he Lombardi-esque?

BR lists him as 6'1" 225. You be the judge.
   71. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: July 15, 2021 at 09:38 AM (#6029158)
Posey was a SS and P in high school

Weren't pretty much all MLB players pitchers and/or shortstops as kids?
   72. Rally Posted: July 15, 2021 at 10:52 AM (#6029165)
Looks like Ryan had the same body type as his dad. It’s easier for me to believe either one was a catcher than an outfielder. Outfielders are supposed to be able to run.
   73. JJ1986 Posted: July 15, 2021 at 11:22 AM (#6029171)
I'm pretty stunned that d'Arnaud has only 4 WAR in his career. He's a catcher with a 98 OPS+ and about 4 seasons worth of plate appearances. He has some really horrible defensive numbers on BRef (Fangraphs includes framing and has him with a much better career).
   74. CFBF's Results are Certified Posted: July 15, 2021 at 11:56 AM (#6029174)
I immediately thought of Brian McCann, but it turns out he was a second round pick. That was the Jeff Francoeur year for the Braves.
   75. DanG Posted: July 15, 2021 at 12:36 PM (#6029176)
A couple other HS catchers drafted in the first round were Paul Konerko, #13 in 1994 by the Dodgers, and Jayson Werth, #22 by the Orioles in 1997.
   76. bookbook Posted: July 15, 2021 at 07:44 PM (#6029206)
The Mariners, if I recall correctly, drafted a catcher at #3 (in the year of Trout), and a catcher at #6 who they tried to make an OF. Of course, the M's have drafted and traded for top prospects at all positions and had them not work out.

I admire the gumption of going to Harry Ford with pick #12.
   77. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: July 15, 2021 at 07:58 PM (#6029208)
Re: 76. It was #33, a supplementary pick, not #3. So they at least didn't pass on Trout for Steve Baron. They passed on him for Dustin Ackley (who they took at #2), but not for a catcher.
   78. Howie Menckel Posted: July 15, 2021 at 09:44 PM (#6029222)
"I hear a train a-coming, it's coming round the bend..."

06.25... Braves C prospect Shea Langeliers went 2-for-4 with a homer on Thursday for Double-A Mississippi.
Spin: Langeliers has hit 11 homers so far in his 37 games with the Double-A Braves. The ninth pick of the 2019 draft, Langeliers is better known for his defense than his bat, but there's above-average raw power in his right-handed bat, and he's shown it off so far in Double-A. There are catching prospects with a higher fantasy ceiling than Langeliers, but because of his glove, there aren't many that have a higher floor. He could be the everyday backstop in Atlanta by the end of 2022.

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