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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 10-15-2020

Pittsburgh Press, October 15, 1920:

It is still a matter of doubt whether the New York Yankees will have a new manager in 1921. Col. Til Huston, one of the owners of the club, wants a new leader, but Col. Jake Ruppert believes that Miller Huggins deserves another season.

The peculiar part of it is that Ruppert doesn’t claim Huggins is a world-beater as a team leader, but says that any manager whose team made as much money for its owners as the Yankees made this season is entitles to at least one more year.

Huggins is a likable fellow, but it is a question whether he will ever be ranked with the really great leaders of ball teams. He has had his chance, and failed. The Yankees looked good enough to win this year, and the manner in which the pilot handled his men and manipulated his pitchers is blamed for their failure.

The guy won 95 games and was called a failure. Tough crowd. Anyway, Huggins made it through this offseason unscathed and managed the Yankees until he died in 1929.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: October 15, 2020 at 10:10 AM | 7 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: October 15, 2020 at 10:11 AM (#5983100)
Today's Birthday Team has a strong pitching staff. It's going to need every bit of pitching these guys can muster.

C: Bill Lewis (0.8 WAR)
1B: Mule Haas (11.9 WAR)
2B: Thorny Hawkes (0.6 WAR)
3B: Glenn Gulliver (0.6 WAR)
SS: Carlos Garcia (1.0 WAR)
LF: Mitchell Page (8.1 WAR)
CF: Teoscar Hernandez (3.6 WAR)
RF: Evar Swanson (6.4 WAR)

SP: Jim Palmer (68.5 WAR)
SP: Mel Harder (44.2 WAR)
SP: Sam Gray (23.1 WAR)
SP: Bob Harmon (12.8 WAR)
SP: Jack Flaherty (8.0 WAR)
RP: Bill Henry (14.9 WAR)

Owners: Ted Lerner, Brad Corbett
Babe Ruth's Legs: Sammy Byrd (2.6 WAR)
Fun names: Dinty Gearin, Jim Command, Austin Knickerbocker, Tommy Toms, Dick Such
Second guy born on October 15 and named Mule: Mule Watson
   2. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: October 15, 2020 at 11:57 AM (#5983135)
LF: Mitchell Page (8.1 WAR)

he had 8.4 WAR after his first 2 years; -0.2 after
   3. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 15, 2020 at 01:13 PM (#5983149)
1B: Mule Haas (11.9 WAR)

Bizaro random stat. Haas led the league in sac bunts 5 consecutive years. And the year before the streak he had 40! and didn't lead the league, though that was more than he had in any of his league leading seasons.

The guy was an average hitter (99 OPS+) during those 6 years. No idea why he sacrificed so much.
   4. SoSH U at work Posted: October 15, 2020 at 01:18 PM (#5983151)
The guy was an average hitter (99 OPS+) during those 6 years. No idea why he sacrificed so much.

It's possible he was a good bunter who bunted for base hits a lot with a man on first. It was a nice way to elevate the average. (If you're safe, you've got a base hit. If you're out, you get a sacrifice. At least it was until the otherwise awful Dick Young came along).

   5. The Mighty Quintana Posted: October 15, 2020 at 05:09 PM (#5983226)
Dick Such (careful how you type that) was famous as Tom Kelly's pitching coach for the Twins' two World Series champs.
   6. Cblau Posted: October 15, 2020 at 09:27 PM (#5983277)
Some of Haas's sacrifices in 1929 and 1930 were sac flies, but still, that's a lot of making out on purpose.
   7. Addie Joss Posted: October 16, 2020 at 03:46 AM (#5983298)
Haas hit second in the batting order right after a great OBP guy, "Camera Eye" Max Bishop; so, he got a huge number of chances to sacrifice, which Connie Mack was inclined to do.
And I recall Joe Di Maggio saying several times that Mel Harder (also on today's team) was the toughest pitcher he ever had to face.

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