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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 10-3-2019

Pendleton East Oregonian, October 3, 1919:

Hats off to “Little Dickie” Kerr, midget pitcher of the Sox. He did what the two highly touted aces of the Sox staff failed to accomplish, turning in a shutout victory for Chicago in the third game of the series, 3 to 0.

Dickie is the smallest pitcher in the big leagues, but he is the biggest thing the Reds have encountered in many a day. He is hardly larger than the bat he swings but this mite of a southpaw not only stopped the stampede of the Reds but blanked them, holding the Moran wrecking crew to three lonely singles, distributed in as many innings.

Not one red reached first base after the fifth inning and Kerr had them swinging wide at fast breaking curves and popping up weakly when they swung at his slow ones. Kerr displayed the courage of a veteran against the mighty maulters who broke the heard of Cicotte and Williams. Despite the fact that it was his maiden appearance in a big league classic, he pitched one of the best games in world’s series history.

It’s remarkable how much easier it is to win a baseball game when you’re not trying to lose.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: October 03, 2019 at 09:58 AM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: October 03, 2019 at 09:58 AM (#5885819)
A heck of an outfield on today's Birthday Team, and the ace starter isn't too shabby either.

C: Darrin Fletcher (7.7 WAR)
1B: Bob Skinner (16.3 WAR)
2B: Phil Gosselin (0.6 WAR)
3B: Armando Marsans (2.8 WAR)
SS: Wil Cordero (6.0 WAR)
LF/Manager: Fred Clarke (67.9 WAR)
CF: Dave Winfield (64.2 WAR)
RF: Dom Dallessandro (8.6 WAR)

SP: Dennis Eckersley (62.0 WAR)
SP: Roger Bailey (5.2 WAR)
SP: Bob Bowman (3.1 WAR)
SP: Johnny Broaca (1.8 WAR)
SP: Adam Plutko (0.5 WAR)
RP: Steve Foucault (5.4 WAR)

Not that one: Joe Wood
NPB legend: Alex Ramirez (-1.1 WAR)
Spare OF: Junior Felix (6.0 WAR)
Umpire: Jim Joyce
   2. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 03, 2019 at 10:27 AM (#5885830)
Happy 52nd birthday (or 57th) (or 62nd) to Junior Felix!

"We never really knew for sure how old Felix was," Angel manager Buck Rodgers said, "but we always suspected that he was 30-plus."

The Angels began to worry last season that Felix was fibbing about his age. The club asked Felix about the fact that his hair had turned predominantly gray. He was listed at 24, but he told them that his family had a history of graying prematurely.
   3. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 03, 2019 at 11:09 AM (#5885843)
Junior, indeed.
   4. salvomania Posted: October 03, 2019 at 11:21 AM (#5885848)
C: Darrin Fletcher (7.7 WAR)

One of five MLB All Stars who attended my old school, the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Fletcher ranks 8th among ex-Illini in career WAR, behind HoFer Lou Boudreau; '60s catcher Tom Haller; A's 1970s dynasty starter Ken Holtzman; deadball 1st sacker Jake Stahl; deadball hurler Cy Falkenburg; Tigers' post-WWII OF Hoot Evers; and the goofily facial-haired Scott Spiezio (whose dad Ed also played at Illinois).

While I was there, Fletcher was the best of a handful of Illini who made it to the show, including Donn "The Pope" Pall and the 6'7" Cardinals 1st-round pick John Ericks, who pitched exactly 162 MLB innings over three years with the Pirates.
   5. gef, talking mongoose & vexatious litigant Posted: October 03, 2019 at 11:47 AM (#5885873)
The Angels began to worry last season that Felix was fibbing about his age. The club asked Felix about the fact that his hair had turned predominantly gray. He was listed at 24, but he told them that his family had a history of graying prematurely.


Most likely he was prevaricating, of course, but it does happen. My dad's 6 siblings who lived to adulthood were pretty much all-white* by the time they were in their mid-20s, though my dad was still fully brunette, AFAIK, when he died at 34.


*Their hair, that is. I have no idea of whether any racial intermingling occurred along the way, but since their parents originated in southern Alabama ...
   6. JJ1986 Posted: October 03, 2019 at 12:24 PM (#5885895)
Mickey Callaway out! Reports are that the Mets are interested in Carlos Beltran to manage the team.
   7. Perry Posted: October 03, 2019 at 12:28 PM (#5885897)
Just went to bb-ref to check something and of the 12 player photos on the front page, 3 were different shots of Jonathan Lucroy.
   8. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 03, 2019 at 12:28 PM (#5885898)
LF/Manager: Fred Clarke (67.9 WAR)

About as anonymous as you can get for a great career. Almost 10,000 PA, 68 WAR, 35 WAA, and I could have told you nothing about him before clicking on the link today. I knew there was a Clarke in the HoF (thanks Sporcle!), but that's it.
   9. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: October 03, 2019 at 12:31 PM (#5885899)
Mickey Callaway out! Reports are that the Mets are interested in Carlos Beltran to manage the team.


If you're going to go the rookie-manager route again, that's not a bad choice. But I'm guessing they want a veteran guy in there now.

My money is on one of the Joes, probably Girardi.
   10. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 03, 2019 at 12:46 PM (#5885906)
While I was there, Fletcher was the best of a handful of Illini who made it to the show, including Donn "The Pope" Pall and the 6'7" Cardinals 1st-round pick John Ericks, who pitched exactly 162 MLB innings over three years with the Pirates.
Let's not forget my fellow Champaign townie Jeff Innis!

EDIT: Huh. When I was a kid I always thought Innis was from Champaign, but no, it looks like he's actually from Decatur and came to Champaign for college. Ah well.
   11. mathesond Posted: October 03, 2019 at 12:48 PM (#5885908)
I knew there was a Clarke in the HoF (thanks Sporcle!), but that's it


For some reason, I seem to remember reading that he was responsible for the wearing of baseball gloves, as he was trying to play with broken fingers.
   12. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: October 03, 2019 at 12:55 PM (#5885912)
About as anonymous as you can get for a great career. Almost 10,000 PA, 68 WAR, 35 WAA, and I could have told you nothing about him before clicking on the link today. I knew there was a Clarke in the HoF (thanks Sporcle!), but that's it.


one of the great player-managers! Won 4 pennants and a WS with the Pirates in the 19 aughts. Granted it helped a lot to be able to right yourself and Honus Wagner into the lineup every day.
   13. Rennie's Tenet Posted: October 03, 2019 at 01:07 PM (#5885920)
Pirates sold Alex Ramirez to the Yakult Swallows, used the money as partial payment for two years of Derek Bell.
   14. manchestermets Posted: October 03, 2019 at 01:22 PM (#5885942)
Reports are that the Mets are interested in Carlos Beltran to manage the team.


FFS, just go out and get Maddon you ####### cheapskates.
   15. vortex of dissipation Posted: October 03, 2019 at 01:41 PM (#5885955)
NPB legend: Alex Ramirez (-1.1 WAR)


Absolutely. Career .301 NPB BA, with 380 home runs. Two time home run leader, five RBI titles, and a batting championship. Won back to back Central league MVPs in 2008 and 2009. He's the only foreign-born player to get 2,000 hits in NPB. He's been the manager of the Yokohama DeNA BayStars since 2016, winning a pennant in 2017, and getting them back into the playoffs this season. He became a Japanese citizen earlier this year.
   16. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 03, 2019 at 02:29 PM (#5885979)
FFS, just go out and get Maddon you ####### cheapskates.

I'd prefer Girardi, if I were a Met fan.
   17. manchestermets Posted: October 03, 2019 at 02:35 PM (#5885985)
I wouldn't complain if they got Giradi.

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