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Thursday, November 14, 2019

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 11-14-2019

Ogden Standard, November 14, 1919:

George Tyler, southpaw pitcher for the Cubs, had an early appointment with a dentist today and before the end of the day he expected to have only two teeth left in his mouth. The pitcher, who did little work for his team last season because of pains in his arm, spent several days of the present week at a hospital at Rochester, Minn., where practically every expert at the institution examined him. All except one pronounced his condition as “almost perfect.”

The expert who made the unfavorable report examined Tyler’s teeth and declared that the lameness in his arm came from “pus sacks” which had formed on his gums. After removal of his teeth, the expert declared that Tyler would be in better condition than he ever was.

Dude. Stop. Don’t.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 14, 2019 at 10:37 AM | 19 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 14, 2019 at 10:39 AM (#5901072)
Happy Birthday to my favorite Cleveland Indian in the past quarter century, Francisco Lindor. I'm very excited for the impending "beloved future Hall of Famer for a handful of prospects" trade and the subsequent "why is nobody buying tickets to see a good team?" think pieces. For Frankie's birthday, I hope he receives an eventual trade to a franchise that's all-in on winning championships.

I should mention that today's manager never managed a game in the major leagues, but won 1600+ games and four pennants as a minor league skipper.

C: Fred Carisch (2.7 WAR)
1B: Xavier Nady (3.8 WAR)
2B: Freddy Galvis (6.8 WAR)
3B: Joe Leonard (1.1 WAR)
SS: Francisco Lindor (28.6 WAR)
LF/Manager: Jack Lelivelt (6.6 WAR)
CF: Jim Piersall (29.4 WAR)
RF: Ruben Rivera (5.7 WAR)

SP: Curt Schilling (79.5 WAR)
SP: Harry Howell (33.9 WAR)
SP: Jim Brewer (15.9 WAR)
SP: Kent Bottenfield (6.7 WAR)
SP: Paul Wagner (2.0 WAR)
RP: Willie Hernandez (16.7 WAR)

Fun name: Tim Hamulack
The LOOGY who says Ni: Fu-Te Ni
   2. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: November 14, 2019 at 11:11 AM (#5901094)
CF: Jim Piersall (29.4 WAR)

as mentioned in a thread the other day, his WAR breaks down as 10.8 oWAR and 16.1 dWAR
   3. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: November 14, 2019 at 11:29 AM (#5901102)
The expert who made the unfavorable report examined Tyler’s teeth and declared that the lameness in his arm came from “pus sacks” which had formed on his gums. After removal of his teeth, the expert declared that Tyler would be in better condition than he ever was.


Hey, it worked for Secretariat...
   4. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: November 14, 2019 at 11:31 AM (#5901103)
SP: Harry Howell (33.9 WAR)


Helluva hockey player.
   5. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 14, 2019 at 11:38 AM (#5901106)
Helluva hockey player.
Ha! I was sitting here looking at his stats and thinking "I could have sworn Harry Howell was in the Hall of Fame".

He is. Different Harry Howell. Different Hall of Fame.
   6. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: November 14, 2019 at 11:47 AM (#5901111)
The expert who made the unfavorable report examined Tyler’s teeth and declared that the lameness in his arm came from “pus sacks” which had formed on his gums. After removal of his teeth, the expert declared that Tyler would be in better condition than he ever was.
If you're tempted to think that we as a society have progressed beyond falling for stuff like this, just Google "wellness."
   7. caspian88 Posted: November 14, 2019 at 12:25 PM (#5901122)
Xavier Nady is the greatest baseball player from my hometown. My middle school posted the records for various PE activities (fastest mile, most pushups, etc) in the locker rooms, and I remember Nady (who was then a new draftee by the Padres) being prominent among them.

Today there's a lawyer in the same town by the same name, and I'm curious if they're related.
   8. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 14, 2019 at 12:47 PM (#5901128)
Today there's a lawyer in the same town by the same name, and I'm curious if they're related.

Maybe it's him!
   9. Tom Nawrocki Posted: November 14, 2019 at 01:14 PM (#5901138)
Xavier Nady is most famous as the guy the Pirates traded to get McCutchen.
   10. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: November 14, 2019 at 01:15 PM (#5901139)
Xavier Nady is the greatest baseball player from my hometown

but not the most famous person from your hometown
   11. Walt Davis Posted: November 14, 2019 at 03:18 PM (#5901188)
Meh, nobody remembers Steinbeck while Nady's exploits are forever memorialized at baseball-reference!

Nady never seeemed very good but he seemed more useful than his WAR indicates.

as mentioned in a thread the other day, his WAR breaks down as 10.8 oWAR and 16.1 dWAR

The point stands but of course technically that's double-counting Rpos.
   12. Walt Davis Posted: November 14, 2019 at 03:23 PM (#5901190)
Xavier Nady is most famous as the guy the Pirates traded to get McCutchen.

I'm not sure if this is a very deep joke or not but he was traded for Daniel McCutchen (and others) not Andrew who was a 1st round pick by the Pirates in 2005.
   13. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: November 14, 2019 at 03:26 PM (#5901193)
Meh, nobody remembers Steinbeck while Nady's exploits are forever memorialized at baseball-reference!
Steinbeck probably sucked at middle-school gym.
   14. JJ1986 Posted: November 14, 2019 at 06:42 PM (#5901228)
Tracy Ringolsby had quite an MVP ballot.
   15. AndrewJ Posted: November 14, 2019 at 06:58 PM (#5901232)
And Mike Trout now moves up to (by my quick'n'dirty calculations) 6th in career MVP Shares.
   16. RJ in TO Posted: November 14, 2019 at 07:13 PM (#5901236)
Tracy Ringolsby had quite an MVP ballot.
He voted for the 10 players who finished in the top 10 in balloting. I disagree with the order he chose, but it's not like he was voting for obviously undeserving candidates.
   17. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 14, 2019 at 07:14 PM (#5901238)
Tracy Ringolsby had quite an MVP ballot.

From the BBWAA website:
Tracy Ringolsby: Rendon Freeman Arenado Yelich Bellinger Martel Acuña Alonso DeGrom Soto
Rendon was a solid third, and probably would have won if postseason were included in the voting, but Yelich & Bellinger sliding all the way to 4th & 5th is a bit much.
   18. stanmvp48 Posted: November 14, 2019 at 07:26 PM (#5901239)
Courtesy down ballot votes for Goldschmidt, Wong and Pillar
   19. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: November 15, 2019 at 02:31 PM (#5901492)
Meh, nobody remembers Steinbeck while Nady's exploits are forever memorialized at baseball-reference!


"Beethoven wasn't so great. He never had his picture on a bubblegum car." -- L. Van Pelt, December 1965

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