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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 11-5-2020

El Paso Herald, November 5, 1920:

Fans Want No More Of Rube

Seldom at the world’s series are the newspapermen a unit on anything. Usually they cannot agree. But in the case of Rube Marquard there was not a dissenting voice to the view that the Brooklyn southpaw should be run out of baseball.

Marquard’s quoted statement that it was a frame-up to drive him out of baseball is the worst kind of a joke. There was no reason to rid the game of him until the ticket speculating incident in Cleveland came up, least of all in Brooklyn where he is still considered a valuable asset. Marquard pulled a big bone and is making a weak attempt to square himself with the Brooklyn public. It is sufficient that he was convicted of the charge of ticket scalping in his home town [Cleveland] where one naturally would expect he would not get the worst of it.

There’s an ongoing legal matter in which 10+ current and former MLB players have been implicated in fixing the World Series, but people are freaking out about Rube Marquard scalping tickets? It was a dumb thing to do, but jeez, guys. Perspective.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 05, 2020 at 10:44 AM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 05, 2020 at 10:45 AM (#5987361)
The good news is that today's Birthday Team has a Hall of Famer in right field. The bad news is that he's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. There weren't any managers born on November 5, but I'd probably give the job to Neale. The guy coached friggin' Washington and Jefferson College to the Rose Bowl, so he seems to know what he's doing as a leader.

C: Javy Lopez (29.7 WAR)
1B: Bryan LaHair (-0.2 WAR)
2B: Mike Goliat (1.0 WAR)
3B: Jim Tabor (9.0 WAR)
SS: Fred Manrique (2.6 WAR)
LF: Johnny Damon (56.3 WAR)
CF: Lloyd Moseby (27.5 WAR)
RF: Greasy Neale (5.9 WAR)

SP: Ice Box Chamberlain (30.7 WAR)
SP: Pete Donohue (18.7 WAR)
SP: Harry Gumbert (17.2 WAR)
SP: Jon Gray (9.9 WAR)
SP: Carl Fischer (4.6 WAR)
RP: Craig McMurtry (4.6 WAR)

Fun Names: Flame Delhi, Yam Yaryan, Merkin Valdez
Umpire: Jim Evans, John Mullin
   2. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 05, 2020 at 11:04 AM (#5987365)
Two HoF nicknames on today's squad!
   3. vortex of dissipation Posted: November 05, 2020 at 03:10 PM (#5987397)
I think that Joe Walsh would have been worthy of a "Not that one", and that Putsy Caballero is a fun name.
   4. Walt Davis Posted: November 05, 2020 at 03:17 PM (#5987400)
"Joe Walsh is the only guy I ever saw carried INTO a gig." -- Brian Cadd, Aussie musician and I gather a Flying Burrito Brother at one point.

Marquard pulled a big bone

Language is a living thing
   5. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 05, 2020 at 05:09 PM (#5987420)
SP: Ice Box Chamberlain (30.7 WAR)
Modern appliances/technology just seems less nickname-friendly. No Microwave Miller, WiFi Williams, or similar come to mind. Sad.
   6. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: November 05, 2020 at 06:46 PM (#5987449)
Vinnie Johnson (basketball) has already taken the Microwave nickname.
   7. The Honorable Ardo Posted: November 05, 2020 at 06:48 PM (#5987450)
I always thought Chamberlain was extremely fat. His bio instead tells the story of a short, squarely built, strong man known for not taking guff.
   8. cardsfanboy Posted: November 05, 2020 at 07:35 PM (#5987461)
I don't know where to post this or if anyone actually cares, but the Athletic is offering a limited time $1 a month subscription service, first six months for $1, after that normal price of $7.99... that is enough to at least convince you if you think it's worth it.

TheAthletic

I honestly don't know if this is normal for them or not. I don't see any scenario where I'll pay $8 a month for a website, but $1 is worth giving it a try, and considering it will cover pre-season, something that I think is my most intense reading time for baseball, that is a good thing.
   9. puck Posted: November 05, 2020 at 09:16 PM (#5987484)
Craig McMurtry, 5.2 WAR in his RoY season.

He pitched for Houston at age 35 after toiling in the minors for four years. That seems unusual.

Edit: RoY runner up. I misremembered. Finished 2nd to some guy named Darryl Strawberry.
   10. JJ1986 Posted: November 06, 2020 at 09:37 AM (#5987521)
While no one was paying attention:
Breaking: Alex Cora is back as Red Sox manager
   11. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: November 06, 2020 at 10:03 AM (#5987524)
Remember in 2012 when the Cubs went 61-101 and sent Bryan LaHair to the All-Star Game? 10 years after being drafted in the 39th round, and spending 6 years in AAA, Bryan LaHair started the year in the Cubs lineup because Anthony Rizzo was still in AAA, and then he stuck in the lineup when Rizzo got promoted because he was better than Tony Campana and Reed Johnson, and then he was in the All-Star Game. And the next year he was playing for the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks.
   12. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: November 06, 2020 at 10:21 AM (#5987528)
Happy birthday to Fred Manrique.

I swear there was some video game that included a small number of major leaguers, all of whom were stars, plus Fred Manrique for some reason. But I can find no evidence of this. Maybe it was a collection of star baseball cards? Or a poster? Anyone know what I'm talking about?
   13. Ned Garvin: Male Prostitute Posted: November 06, 2020 at 11:31 AM (#5987542)
#12: I believe you are thinking of RBI Baseball, and it's actually Al Pedrique. I'm not sure how I feel about being able to read your mind on that. Pedrique was on the NL All-Star team in that game.
   14. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: November 06, 2020 at 12:08 PM (#5987546)
I'm not sure how I feel about being able to read your mind on that.
I, for one, heartily applaud you. Huzzah, sir. Huzzah!
   15. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: November 06, 2020 at 01:48 PM (#5987564)
That's it! You say Pedrique, and I say Manrique. I say Manrique, and you say Pedrique. Pedrique, Manrique. Manrique, Pedrique.

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