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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 11-5-2021

Chicago Eagle, November 5, 1921:

Branch Rickey’s Cards mind him. During the St. Louis-New York series at the Polo grounds the Cardinals rushed out of the dugout on two occasions, bent on assisting a fellow player who had protected against the call of play.

Each time Branch’s mediating voice called out, “Come, now, boys!” and his players boomeranged back to their seats in the doghouse.

They knew that with Branch Rickey, there would be heck to pay if they made him so angry he said “darn”.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 05, 2021 at 08:11 AM | 10 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 05, 2021 at 08:12 AM (#6051368)
The good news is that today's Birthday Team has a Hall of Famer in right field. The bad news is that he's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. There weren't any managers born on November 5, but I'd probably give the job to Neale. The guy coached friggin' Washington and Jefferson College to the Rose Bowl, so he seems to know what he's doing as a leader.

C: Javy Lopez (29.7 WAR)
1B: Bryan LaHair (-0.2 WAR)
2B: Mike Goliat (1.0 WAR)
3B: Jim Tabor (9.0 WAR)
SS: Jake Dunn (6.2 WAR)
LF: Johnny Damon (56.3 WAR)
CF: Lloyd Moseby (27.5 WAR)
RF: Greasy Neale (6.0 WAR)

SP: Ice Box Chamberlain (30.7 WAR)
SP: Pete Donohue (18.8 WAR)
SP: Harry Gumbert (17.3 WAR)
SP: Jon Gray (11.1 WAR)
SP: Carl Fischer (4.6 WAR)
RP: Craig McMurtry (4.6 WAR)

Fun Names: Flame Delhi, Yam Yaryan, Merkin Valdez
Umpire: Jim Evans, John Mullin
   2. Nasty Nate Posted: November 05, 2021 at 09:02 AM (#6051372)
SP: Jon Gray (11.1 WAR)
Sittin by the phone, waiting for that Qualified Offer to roll in.
   3. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 05, 2021 at 09:31 AM (#6051375)
LF: Johnny Damon (56.3 WAR)

Damon's a fascinating case. Slightly above average hitting, average D, great base-running, and he gets to within spitting distance of the HoF.
   4. Rough Carrigan Posted: November 05, 2021 at 12:10 PM (#6051408)
Fun names? What, Ice Box Chamberlain isn't a fun enough name?
   5. vortex of dissipation Posted: November 05, 2021 at 12:22 PM (#6051410)
"...who had protected against the call of play..."

That should be protested, not protected. {I've spent a lot of my life as a proofreader and copy editor, so forgive me for noticing things like that).
   6. The Mighty Quintana Posted: November 05, 2021 at 12:32 PM (#6051414)
Bryan LaHair and Lloyd Moseby both made one all-star team.
   7. Itchy Row Posted: November 05, 2021 at 01:04 PM (#6051426)
Additional Fun Name: Putsy Caballero
   8. The Honorable Ardo Posted: November 05, 2021 at 04:45 PM (#6051461)
Damon and Moseby were, era-normalized, remarkably similar players through age 29. Do any older Primates know why Moseby's career flamed out so abruptly?
   9. Ron J Posted: November 05, 2021 at 06:06 PM (#6051477)
#8. I've always assumed it was just the natural slippage of athletic talents. He was extremely toolsy. (If you read the early Abstracts you'll James commenting on athletic tools versus baseball skills and using Moseby as an example of somebody with exceptional athletic skills who is just raw as hell and consequently not very good)

Took him three years to put it together. He was really good for two years and started to slip as an athlete and as a player.

And then after the 1991 season he got an offer from Japan for more than he was likely to command in MLB.



   10. Ken Griffey Junior Bacon Cheeseburger Posted: November 05, 2021 at 06:28 PM (#6051483)
Do any older Primates know why Moseby's career flamed out so abruptly?


I suspect playing every day on the Exhibition Stadium "turf" had something to do with it. His outfield mates George Bell and Jesse Barfield also had fairly quick declines IIRC.

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