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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 11-6-2020

Pittsburgh Press, November 6, 1920:

J. Emile Dion of Quebec, Canada, has proposed to the Baseball Writers Association of America a plan which is certainly unique. He suggests that reporters writing the story of each game every day mention without fail the man who deserves to be crowned as the star of that particular contest.

From these national press associations could pick the one who was apparently the luminary of the game, and in the end the man who starred on the largest number of days would be named as the outstanding figure of the season.

I’ve had a similar idea for years, inspired by the AFL’s Brownlow Medal. There, the umpires vote (in secret) for the top three players in every game on a 3-2-1 basis. At the end of the season, they have a big event where they reveal the votes for each game and name the winner of the medal.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 06, 2020 at 10:48 AM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: November 06, 2020 at 10:49 AM (#5987537)
Today's Birthday Team has one heck of an ace starter. Thankfully, as the manager, he won't have to deal with some goofball trying to "fix" his unusual sidearm delivery.

C: Alejandro Kirk (0.2 WAR)
1B: Adam LaRoche (14.2 WAR)
2B: Deivi Cruz (7.4 WAR)
3B: Dave Altizer (7.6 WAR)
SS: Buddy Kerr (12.0 WAR)
LF: Chad Curtis (14.0 WAR)
CF: Mack Jones (20.7 WAR)
RF: Danny Green (21.5 WAR)

SP/Manager: Walter Johnson (164.5 WAR)
SP: John Candelaria (41.9 WAR)
SP: James Paxton (12.9 WAR)
SP: Ricky Romero (9.9 WAR)
SP: Dana Fillingim (5.9 WAR)
RP: Justin Speier (7.7 WAR)

Fun names: Skip Pitlock, Atahualpa Severino, Ever Magallanes, Matt Skrmetta
   2. EddieA Posted: November 06, 2020 at 11:41 AM (#5987543)
Didn't Candyman go sidearmed as well?
   3. crict Posted: November 06, 2020 at 12:01 PM (#5987544)
J. Emile Dion of Quebec, Canada, has proposed to the Baseball Writers Association of America a plan which is certainly unique. He suggests that reporters writing the story of each game every day mention without fail the man who deserves to be crowned as the star of that particular contest.


Dion was involved in basically everything baseball in Quebec City for 50 years. That exact formula is used in the NHL, at the very least by the Montreal Canadiens (called the Molson cup).
   4. Ron J Posted: November 06, 2020 at 12:02 PM (#5987545)
#2 It wasn't a pure sidearm but not close to a 3/4 either.

Incidentally his no-hitter against the Dodgers is available on youtube. Really bad quality though.
   5. Ken Griffey Junior Bacon Cheeseburger Posted: November 06, 2020 at 12:51 PM (#5987554)
That exact formula is used in the NHL, at the very least by the Montreal Canadiens (called the Molson cup).


Most of the Canadian NHL teams still present the Molson Cup, although Calgary discontinued theirs in 2011 and the Winnipeg Jets 2.0 don't present one. The old Jets did, though.
   6. The Mighty Quintana Posted: November 06, 2020 at 01:13 PM (#5987556)
Will the Big Train let Drake LaRoche hang out in the clubhouse? (Sorry...)
   7. caspian88 Posted: November 06, 2020 at 02:48 PM (#5987575)
Walter Johnson has the 23rd best OPS of players born on 6 November. I figured he might be the DH or main PH on days he's not pitching, but Bubba Trammell was clearly better, and there are several other options that are probably as effective as Johnson.
   8. JJ1986 Posted: November 06, 2020 at 03:17 PM (#5987578)
MLB mostly exonerates Justin Turner because other people also didn't follow the rules.
   9. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: November 06, 2020 at 04:51 PM (#5987592)
Figures that Manfred is the only person in the world who buys the “But Mommmmmm! All the other kids were doing it!” defense.

Turner went back out in large part precisely because he knew there would be no enforcement, just like with every other “rule” Manfred has pretended to make vis-a-vis the players.
   10. stevegamer Posted: November 06, 2020 at 11:17 PM (#5987642)
The whole NHL has the 3 stars of the night for all games - but that's 3 over both teams. Not sure how many US teams have a Molson Cup or equivalent. They have team MVP's, but that's not exactly the same.
   11. Der-K's emotional investment is way up Posted: November 07, 2020 at 02:01 PM (#5987681)
Wild though not unexpected minor league news starting to trickle out.

For example, the Yankees are swapping their AA team from Trenton to Somerset (which was an Indy league team). Hudson Valley, which was short season A, will now be high A. Tampa, which was high A, will be low A, presumably because the FSL will now be low A? Don’t know what happens to Charleston (former low A). Yankees supposedly will help Trenton join the Indy league Somerset is leaving. NYPL and Appy League are gone.
   12. Snowboy Posted: November 07, 2020 at 11:49 PM (#5987806)
Der-K are you saying the entire NYPL and Appalachian are shutting down for 2021, or just (so far) the Yankees affiliate teams in those leagues?
   13. Der-K's emotional investment is way up Posted: November 08, 2020 at 12:08 AM (#5987809)
My understanding is that each team will have one team at each of 4 full season levels (AAA, AA, A+, A) going forward and a one complex ball tier (GCL/AZL). The other domestic levels (Appy, Pioneer, NYP, Northwest) will cease to be as part of the organized minors. Also, the leagues currently at those levels may not be the same ones as now going forward - hence the FSL going down a level. There might be a new high A league, the Mid-Atlantic League, that (I’m speculating) replaces the Carolina League (which is how it could include Hudson Valley in its footprint).

The Appy League would carry on in a new form - a wood hat league for rising college freshmen and sophomores, affiliated with MLB. Link

Wild times - imagine we will know the whole story by the winter meetings.
   14. Der-K's emotional investment is way up Posted: November 08, 2020 at 12:31 AM (#5987810)
Oh, these are permanent changes - part of mlb’s one baseball initiative/ takeover of the minors. Every organization will drop some affiliates / release loads of guys.
   15. Der-K's emotional investment is way up Posted: November 08, 2020 at 12:50 AM (#5987811)
One more bit of speculation, from a August article in BA:

“the low Class A Midwest and South Atlantic leagues would operate as high Class A leagues, perhaps along with the Northwest League and a new Mid-Atlantic League. The high Class A Carolina, California and Florida State leagues would switch to a low Class A classification.”

   16. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: November 09, 2020 at 12:51 PM (#5987948)
No Dugout today? (I have the '70s done in the starting pitcher rankings so it's theoretically time for the #1's trivia question.)

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