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Friday, January 13, 2012

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 1-13-2012

Pittsburgh Press, January 13, 1912:

When the Giants go to their camp at Marlin Springs next month they will be without their mascot, Charley Faust. Manager McGraw has decided, after careful consideration, that he is a jinx, and therefore he will not be allowed to be a member of the band of New York national players next season.

McGraw has already waived claim on this freakiest of freak ball players, and any club that would like a combination of mascot and pitcher had better hurry up and claim Charley.

League offices all around North America were undoubtedly flooded with claims for Faust.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: January 13, 2012 at 05:26 AM | 27 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: January 13, 2012 at 05:27 AM (#4035910)
Today's Birthday Team has a grand total of two ASG appearances. If you're counting, they have one more All-Star appearance than they have decapitated cats.

C: Ron Brand
1B: Billy Jo Robidoux
2B: Jimmy Jordan
3B: Steve Mesner
SS: Mike Tyson
LF: Kevin Mitchell
CF: Fred Schulte
RF: Bama Rowell

SP: Bob Forsch
SP: Elmer Dessens
SP: Kevin Foster
SP: Steve Comer
SP: Larry Jaster
RP: Akinori Otsuka

.019 Career Isolated Power: Goat Anderson
Almost no-hit the Indians once in a spot start: Odell Jones
Fun names: Cactus Keck and Spades Wood
Really friggin' tall: Andy Sisco

....

I was totally unfamiliar with Brand, which I guess is no surprise because he retired four years before I was born and had a career OPS of .585, but he's an interesting player. Broke into the majors in 1963 as a 23-year-old catcher in the Pirates organization and hit .288/.390/.364 in 46 games. The kid can hit, right? Well, no.

He surfaced again in '65 as the Astros' everyday catcher and didn't hit (65 OPS+), so Brand went to the bench and spent the next three years backing up John Bateman. I know the Astrodome in 1968 was a particularly difficult offensive environment, but still...Brand hit .160/.261/.185 in '68.

Expansion being what it was in the '60s, Brand wound up as the Expos' starting catcher in 1969 (ahead of Bateman, believe it or not) and actually did an adequate job. His BA and OBP were both above league-average. He didn't hit for power (he never did), but if you're a 110-loss expansion team, you've got bigger worries than a slap-hitting catcher who gets on base at a decent clip.

So of course they made him a shortstop (!) in 1970. To be fair, Brand had been a shortstop in the minors...ten years earlier.

He stopped hitting and was out of the big leagues for good by the end of 1971.

Weird career.
   2. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: January 13, 2012 at 05:29 AM (#4035912)
Oh, and I learned today that if you run the phrase "isolated power" through the BB-Ref player linker, you'll wind up with a link to Ted Power.

That's fun.
   3. Javy Joan Baez (chris h.) Posted: January 13, 2012 at 10:13 AM (#4036022)
Kevin Foster! That takes me back...and not in a good way. <<shudder>>

Wow, never realized he was an Evanston native.
   4. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: January 13, 2012 at 11:34 AM (#4036138)
I forgot Kevin Foster was dead. It seems like all the starters who came up with the Cubs in the late 1980s and early 1990s either died young or pitched forever.
   5. Guapo Posted: January 13, 2012 at 12:12 PM (#4036176)
Washington Post reports that the Nationals are “patiently and aggressively” pursuing Prince Fielder. Probably better than if they were pursuing him impatiently and passively.
   6. Javy Joan Baez (chris h.) Posted: January 13, 2012 at 01:13 PM (#4036231)
I forgot Kevin Foster was dead. It seems like all the starters who came up with the Cubs in the late 1980s and early 1990s either died young or pitched forever.

I had forgotten that too. Renal cancer. Yikes.

Here's a fun fact: when you Google "wiki Kevin Foster" (because you've completely forgotten the circumstances surrounding his death), you learn that there was also a murderer named Kevin Foster, who is currently on death row. Also, there's a British "fraudster" named Kevin Foster too.

Unlucky name.
   7. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 13, 2012 at 01:45 PM (#4036274)
I seem to remember Kevin Foster coming on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno to toss baseballs at a stack of bottles like a carnival and missing them every time.
   8. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: January 13, 2012 at 01:53 PM (#4036286)
Washington Post reports that the Nationals are “patiently and aggressively” pursuing Prince Fielder. Probably better than if they were pursuing him impatiently and passively.


"After impatiently and passively pursuing Ryan Madson, the Phillies have signed Jonathan Papelbon."
   9. Der-K's tired of these fruits from poisoned trees Posted: January 13, 2012 at 07:47 PM (#4036657)
Jesus montero to sea for pineda
   10. Jose is Absurdly Correct but not Helpful Posted: January 13, 2012 at 07:52 PM (#4036662)
Greg Johns saying that Hector Noesi is also in the deal.
   11. Der-K's tired of these fruits from poisoned trees Posted: January 13, 2012 at 07:53 PM (#4036663)
And Jose campos w pineda
   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 13, 2012 at 07:56 PM (#4036667)
Wow. That's all I can say. Wow.
   13. JJ1986 Posted: January 13, 2012 at 08:00 PM (#4036671)
Nice trade for Seattle.
   14. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 13, 2012 at 08:03 PM (#4036672)
I think the Yanks win here. I'm not convinced Montero can catch, and at least Pineda has proven himself in the majors while Montero was having a disappointing year in AAA. Yanks get a really nice pitcher and don't have to wait around for Montero to learn how to hit MLB pitching.

Not that its a bad deal for Seattle. They had pitching to burn and needed offense badly and Montero should be their cleanup hitter. Pretty much a win-win, although I give a slight edge for NY.

Yanks now need a DH and Big Papi has yet to sign, right? I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
   15. Dock Ellis Posted: January 13, 2012 at 08:11 PM (#4036683)
I think it's a HUGE win for New York. Montero has no future in NY if he can't catch, not with A-Rod and Teixeira spending a lot of time at DH/1B later on. And they got a great young pitcher who is not arb eligible until after 2014 and free agent until after 2017 who will serve another purpose by off-setting the monster contracts down the road.
   16. Jose is Absurdly Correct but not Helpful Posted: January 13, 2012 at 08:15 PM (#4036689)
When's the last time a prospect as highly touted as Montero got dealt?
   17. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq., LLC Posted: January 13, 2012 at 08:16 PM (#4036690)
Right-handed fly ball pitcher in New Yankee Stadium.
   18. Dock Ellis Posted: January 13, 2012 at 08:21 PM (#4036696)
Andy Marte for Edgar Renteria?
   19. Jose is Absurdly Correct but not Helpful Posted: January 13, 2012 at 08:21 PM (#4036698)
This looks good for both teams. I'd rather have the pitcher than the hitter myself but in this case I can't say that confidently. Pineda fills a need for the Yankees more than Montero does though.
   20. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 13, 2012 at 08:23 PM (#4036701)

When's the last time a prospect as highly touted as Montero got dealt?


Not quite the same, but Delmon Young was the #3 prospect by BA before the 2007 season. A year later, after his rookie season, he was dealt to Minnesota.

BA rated Paul Konerko #3 in 1998 and he was traded that summer to the Reds for Jeff Shaw.
   21. Javy Joan Baez (chris h.) Posted: January 13, 2012 at 08:25 PM (#4036708)
Kerry Wood signs with the Cubs for 1/$3m, with a club option for 2013 for another $3m.
   22. Eric P. Posted: January 13, 2012 at 08:26 PM (#4036711)
Right-handed fly ball pitcher in New Yankee Stadium.


Right-handed power hitter in Safeco Field. Both guys are going to be strange fits for their home park.
   23. puck Posted: January 13, 2012 at 08:29 PM (#4036714)
MLBTR has a tweet from Jack Curry that the Yankees signed Kuroda for a 1 yr 10-11M deal.

If that's the deal, that seems pretty damn good.
   24. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq., LLC Posted: January 13, 2012 at 08:33 PM (#4036720)
Right-handed power hitter in Safeco Field. Both guys are going to be strange fits for their home park.
Montero has massive opposite field power.
   25. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 13, 2012 at 09:13 PM (#4036761)
So Sabathia/Pineda/Kuroda/Nova/Burnett? Where does that leave Hughes and Garcia?
   26. Morty Causa Posted: January 13, 2012 at 10:18 PM (#4036830)
I believe the story in article linked was told by someone in Lawrence Ritter's The Glory of Their Times. One of those odd, Paul Harvey-like things.
   27. Good cripple hitter Posted: January 14, 2012 at 12:39 AM (#4036907)
Fred Snodgrass talked about Faust in Ritter's book, but according to the SABR Bio of Victory Faust, he got most of the facts wrong. I just checked my copy, and Snodgrass has Faust in New York from 1911-1913. He also claims that Faust never pitched in a game until spring training against Cincinnati in 1913, and another regular season game later in 1913.

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