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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 1-21-2020

Rock Island Argus, January 21, 1920:

Ice baseball, ice boxing. These sports are forcing hockey to take a back seat [in Cleveland.]

Ice baseball was launched several weeks ago and already has a large following. A league has been formed comprising six industrial teams.

It remained for ice boxing to prove the real thriller. The second of two initial contests, staged at Rockefeller park, with the contestants heavily dressed in sweaters, resulted in a knockout in the second round. Aside from having to dodge the blows, contestants experienced much trouble in keeping their feet when they missed a swing.

If you ever hit an inside-the-park bunt home run in RBI Baseball, the idea of ice baseball may seem vaguely familiar. Ice boxing is pretty much just 1970s hockey.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: January 21, 2020 at 09:55 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: January 21, 2020 at 09:58 AM (#5917753)
A sneaky good Birthday Team today. None of these names are going to scare opponents, but everybody on the roster is pretty solid.

C/Manager: Johnny Oates (3.3 WAR)
1B: Lew Fonseca (14.0 WAR)
2B: Danny O'Connell (16.9 WAR)
3B: Bill Stein (5.4 WAR)
SS: Brandon Crawford (23.6 WAR)
LF: Rusty Greer (22.4 WAR)
CF: Sam Mele (1.7 WAR)
RF: Mike Tiernan (41.5 WAR)

SP: Mike Krukow (24.0 WAR)
SP: Joe Benz (16.7 WAR)
SP: Chris Hammond (11.6 WAR)
SP: Bernie Boland (10.9 WAR)
SP: Blix Donnelly (7.9 WAR)
RP: Dave Smith (11.7 WAR)

Owners: Bill Wrigley, Masaichi Nagata
Umpire: Dan Morrison
Spare starting pitchers of note: Mike Smithson (6.1 WAR), Andy Hawkins (1.3 WAR), Alan Benes (1.3 WAR)
Brooks's nephew: Roger Kieschnick (-1.0 WAR)
When pythons are buy one, get one free: Snake Deal
Not that one: Bill Graham
   2. Nasty Nate Posted: January 21, 2020 at 10:04 AM (#5917757)
1B: Lew Fonseca (14.0 WAR)
His Grandson Antonio "Al" Fonseca played in the majors too.
   3. Dag Nabbit at Posted: January 21, 2020 at 11:06 AM (#5917772)
A person born on 9/11 would today be exactly as old as Bobby Bonds was the day Barry Bonds was born: 6,706 days

Anyone who wants to look up things like this about their own life (or their friends/family's life) can do so here.
   4. Tom Nawrocki Posted: January 21, 2020 at 11:54 AM (#5917795)
When I was a little kid, Lew Fonseca was a hitting instructor for the Cubs in the 1970s. I remember being astonished to hear that he had won the AL batting title way back in 1929 - he must have been older than dirt!
   5. Itchy Row Posted: January 21, 2020 at 12:33 PM (#5917812)
It's become my annual January 21 tradition that I'm surprised Dave Smith is dead.
   6. The Mighty Quintana Posted: January 21, 2020 at 01:20 PM (#5917834)
Guitarist Keith Richards is exactly as old as Albert Einstein was the day he died (27,793 days).

So who's the genius now?
   7. JJ1986 Posted: January 21, 2020 at 07:14 PM (#5918001)
Marcell Ozuna to the Braves, Nick Markakis to never get 3000 hits.
   8. Walt Davis Posted: January 21, 2020 at 07:24 PM (#5918007)

Jeter also in but one non-vote. Schilling at 70%
   9. Walt Davis Posted: January 21, 2020 at 07:30 PM (#5918012)
And Abreu made it over 5%
   10. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: January 21, 2020 at 07:46 PM (#5918016)
Ozuna took 1/18. Interesting.
   11. bobm Posted: January 21, 2020 at 10:23 PM (#5918085)
I've posted this about ice baseball before from A Game of Inches

1.8 Overrunning Bases. The rules of early baseball did not allow base runners to overrun bases, including first base, which had a number of important consequences.

For example, the Brooklyn Eagle noted in 1865, “It is a noticeable fact this season thus far, that so many of the players overrun their bases and slip away from them. It has been found, upon investigation, to arise from the fact of their playing without spikes. Complaint is also made that shoes with spikes in, cannot be obtained. Every ball player should wear shoes with good spikes, that he can break up at short notice, and stop short, without slipping down” (Brooklyn Eagle, June 19, 1865).

Allowing runners to overrun bases was a hot topic for a number of years. Some observers contended that runners should be allowed to overrun any base while others argued for the status quo. Finally, before the 1871 season, a compromise was reached and runners were allowed to overrun first base only.

According to Jimmy Wood, the impetus for the rule change came from a surprising source. Baseball on ice (see 19.6) was popular in the 1860s, but players on the base paths “found it impossible to stop at bases after skating out a hit. Many of them were injured by skating into bases, their skates tripping them and sending them to the icy surface. To prevent further accidents the captains decided to permit players to overskate the bags without penalty of being touched out if they turned to the right on their way back to base.

When summer baseball was resumed it was decided that the rule made for skater-players should be extended to the regular diamond” (James Wood, as told to Frank G. Menke, “Baseball in By-Gone Days,” part 2, syndicated column, Marion [Ohio] Star, August 15, 1916). Although this explanation sounds farfetched, Wood was a star player of the era and was not known for fanciful tales, so his account must at least be considered.
[Emphasis added] [...]

   12. bobm Posted: January 21, 2020 at 11:01 PM (#5918097)

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