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Friday, February 18, 2011

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 2-18-2011

Associated Press, February 19, 1944:

The Cincinnati Reds have started cradle snatching.  General manager Warren C. Giles announced today signing 15-year-old Joe Nuxhall, a freshman at Hamilton, O., high school and a left-handed pitcher.

Much Adu about nothing, if you ask me.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: February 18, 2011 at 12:48 PM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: February 18, 2011 at 12:54 PM (#3753157)
Also on the linked page:
Gil Dobie Resigned After Boston Gridders Cooked Up Own Hocus-Pocus

Hipper-dipper stuff is here to stay in both football and basketball...At a secret pow-wow before the final game with Boston University, the boys cooked up some here-it-is-here-it-isn't.
Sounds like someone's been hanging out with Alex and the Droogs.

edit to add: Immediately above the thing about Gil Dobie is an article about baseball in Seattle, and how Emil Sick says Seattle is the only city in the country with group singing at the ballpark, and that they play "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" every seventh inning stretch. That tradition is that recent? Really?
   2. AndrewJ Posted: February 18, 2011 at 02:38 PM (#3753222)
they play "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" every seventh inning stretch. That tradition is that recent? Really?

According to this history of the song, singing "Take Me Out" wasn't de rigeur during the 7th inning stretch in MLB games until the 1970s.

EDIT: Some sources credit Harry Caray's offkey singing of "Take Me Out" during the seventh inning stretches of White Sox games in the 1970s (and Bill Veeck's secret broadcasting of this throughout Comiskey Park) with popularizing this. I attended my first MLB game at Dodger Stadium in 1978 and distinctly remember "Take Me Out" was played in the seventh inning.
   3. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: February 18, 2011 at 02:43 PM (#3753228)
According to this history of the song, singing "Take Me Out" wasn't de rigeur during the 7th inning stretch in MLB games until the 1970s.

Ouch, I feel old. You had to consult history to find out what was going on in the 70s?
The point though sounds about right according to my ever-less-accurate memory.
   4. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: February 18, 2011 at 03:11 PM (#3753246)
Nuxhall spent 62 years associated with the Reds (1944-60, 1962-2007) as a player and announcer. Wow. (Even if you don't count 1945-46, when he went back to school [and regained his amateur status as a high school player!], that's still six decades with one club. Again, wow.)
   5. AndrewJ Posted: February 18, 2011 at 03:33 PM (#3753275)
Nuxhall spent 62 years associated with the Reds (1944-60, 1962-2007) as a player and announcer. Wow. (Even if you don't count 1945-46, when he went back to school [and regained his amateur status as a high school player!], that's still six decades with one club. Again, wow.)


Eddie Brannick had an even longer career with one club. And it's pretty astonishing he lasted from the days of Mathewson and Moonlight Graham to Gaylord Perry and Bobby Bonds.
   6. esseff Posted: February 18, 2011 at 04:33 PM (#3753339)
Red Schoendienst signed with the Cardinals two years before Nuxhall signed with the Reds, and remains a special assistant to the general manager today (probably largely symbolic the past few years). He played for other teams for five years late in his playing career and was a coach with the A's for two after being fired as Cardinals manager in '76 before returning to the Cardinals. So, 69 years minus 7, puts him at 62 with the Cardinals. Sixty-nine total years in professional baseball.
   7. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: February 18, 2011 at 04:42 PM (#3753352)
did BTF ever switch over to the new servers?
   8. Walt Davis Posted: February 18, 2011 at 06:13 PM (#3753441)
We had take me out to the ballgame in the 7th inning stretch at Wrigley before Caray's arrival ... which I think was before Caray's arrival with the Sox either. It's true it wasn't nearly such a big thing -- you were as likely to make a run for the concession stand.

Of course the 7th inning stretch is a pretty strange tradition itself ... and I find it hard to believe it never occurred to anybody to give people something to do during it until the 70s.

EDIT: and wasn't Zimmer not just in professional baseball but in baseball dugouts for like 70 straight years? Or was he not quite that old when he gave it up?
   9. BDC Posted: February 18, 2011 at 06:22 PM (#3753449)
the 7th inning stretch is a pretty strange tradition

My father always said it was for home fans only. Visiting fans were supposed to stand up before the seventh inning, and therefore you didn't want to stand up inadvertently and be razzed for being a visitor. I have never seen anyone mention this in recent years, so don't know how universal or how dated a custom the "visitors' stretch" might be.
   10. AndrewJ Posted: February 18, 2011 at 06:29 PM (#3753461)
FYI: Vin Scully begins his 62nd season with the Dodgers this spring.
   11. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: February 18, 2011 at 07:05 PM (#3753503)
My father always said it was for home fans only. Visiting fans were supposed to stand up before the seventh inning, and therefore you didn't want to stand up inadvertently and be razzed for being a visitor. I have never seen anyone mention this in recent years, so don't know how universal or how dated a custom the "visitors' stretch" might be.


That's how my dad taught it to me. First Sox game I went to (vs. Yanks, at Shea), we stood before the top of the seventh.
   12. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: February 18, 2011 at 07:29 PM (#3753529)
Jimmie Reese was involved in professional baseball (minors and majors) for 77 years.
   13. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: February 18, 2011 at 07:42 PM (#3753540)
Huh, I'd never heard about the visitor's stretch - intersting.

If you want to talk about strange, the first time I saw (on TV) "Sweet Caroline" at Fenway was all that to me.
   14. AndrewJ Posted: February 19, 2011 at 01:38 AM (#3753864)
I know it's bad form to quote yourself in BBTF, but:

Eddie Brannick had an even longer career with one club. And it's pretty astonishing he lasted from the days of Mathewson and Moonlight Graham


That was a flip, seat-of-the-pants comment on my part. The SABR bio of Brannick says he was hired by the Giants on June 27th, 1905 -- turns out Moonlight Graham played his one game with the Jints two days later.
   15. Der-K's emotional investment is way up Posted: February 19, 2011 at 08:00 PM (#3754238)
tomko to tex (minor league deal)
pence won his arb case. this was a surprise to houston and others, i think.

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