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Friday, February 21, 2020

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 2-21-2020

Philadelphia Evening Public Ledger, February 21, 1920:

The Boston Braves are preparing for a strenuous season. They have signed up a slugger named John L. Sullivan to play in the outfield. John L. doesn’t slug with his fists—he uses a baseball bat, which is more effective.

He was actually a pretty good player. Better than Mike Tyson or Joe Frazier, but less important to baseball history than Forman.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: February 21, 2020 at 10:54 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: February 21, 2020 at 10:55 AM (#5925839)
There's a remarkably thin pool of talent available for today's Birthday Team. Azocar, who had a career OBP of .246 and four career innings at first base, gets the call at the initial sack. Oh well. At least he had a couple great baseball cards. (RIP, Oscar.)

The other difficult choice is who's going to manage the team. Trammell and Skinner are the two options. Skinner only managed half a season, but Trammell's career winning percentage (.382) is one of the worst of all time. I picked Trammell. It's tough to hold the 2003 Tigers tire fire against him, and his teams were merely 'not very good' in '04 and '05. Maybe Skinner could have done a better job, but he never had a full-time managerial job and Tram did. That's something.

Bill Cash, who spent most of his career in the Negro National League, is likely a better player than Joel Skinner. I should probably have him in the starting lineup.

C: Joel Skinner (0.0 WAR)
1B: Oscar Azocar (-0.2 WAR)
2B: Devon Travis (6.6 WAR)
3B: Joe Foy (13.1 WAR)
SS/Manager: Alan Trammell (70.7 WAR)
LF: Ted Savage (1.7 WAR)
CF: Franklin Gutierrez (17.8 WAR)
RF: John Titus (29.7 WAR)

SP: Jouett Meekin (27.8 WAR)
SP: Dummy Taylor (13.0 WAR)
SP: Jack Billingham (7.4 WAR)
SP: Fred Newman (5.8 WAR)
SP: Tsuyoshi Wada (1.8 WAR)
RP: Tyler Lyons (0.3 WAR)

Owner: Tom Yawkey
Probably a better player than Skinner: Bill Cash
A bad Thanksgiving dinner: Turkey Gross
Fun name: Lucky Wright
Oddity: Adam Greenberg
Not that one: Zachary Taylor
Quarterback: Chad Hutchinson
Beloved in Cleveland: Ryan Merritt (1.1 WAR)
   2. Tom Nawrocki Posted: February 21, 2020 at 11:08 AM (#5925842)
Joel Skinner was the hot prospect who caused the White Sox to move Carlton Fisk out to left field for a month or two at the beginning of the 1986 season. The whole episode was so embarrassing that they ended up dumping Skinner at that year's trade deadline.
   3. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: February 21, 2020 at 11:24 AM (#5925849)
And fired the GM.
   4. Itchy Row Posted: February 21, 2020 at 11:39 AM (#5925853)
And sentenced us to 30 years of listening to the GM.
   5. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: February 21, 2020 at 12:42 PM (#5925884)
Spring training games start in a few minutes.
   6. Sweatpants Posted: February 21, 2020 at 12:50 PM (#5925888)
Yikes, Skinner was 25 and coming off a season in which he'd hit .241/.319/.367 at AAA. I guess they were really sold by the .341 average he'd put up in his 44 major-league at-bats that same year.
   7. Sweatpants Posted: February 21, 2020 at 12:57 PM (#5925890)
gets the call at the initial sack
In the spirit of the Dugout, this sounds very 100-years-ago-sportswriter of you.
   8. JJ1986 Posted: February 21, 2020 at 01:01 PM (#5925892)
Yay, I've got baseball on! Boo, Steve Lyons is talking.
   9. Itchy Row Posted: February 21, 2020 at 01:02 PM (#5925893)
Ron Karkovice hit .282/.394/.517 with 20 HR at AA in 1986, which was a big part of why Skinner was traded. He started hitting like Ron Karkovice again when he reached AAA.
   10. vortex of dissipation Posted: February 21, 2020 at 02:03 PM (#5925909)
A player who could help today's birthday team is Japanese outfielder Atsushi Nagaike. He spent 14 years with the Hankyu Braves, from 1966 to 1979, putting up a line of .285/.356/.534. He was a two-time Pacific League MVP, in 1969 and 1971, and a nine-time All-Star. He hit 338 home runs, and topped the 40 mark four times. He led the league three times each in HR and RBI. In 1971, he had a 32 game hitting streak - as of a few years ago, this was definitely the Pacific League record, and I believe it still is. In those 32 games, he slammed 16 homers and drove in 40 runs while batting .424. Three years later, he had at least one RBI in 11 straight games, also a PL record. He wasn't regarded as a great fielder, and became a DH when the PL adopted the rule in 1975.
   11. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: February 21, 2020 at 03:00 PM (#5925925)
Tigers are down 4-2 in the 6th to an NAIA team.
   12. Itchy Row Posted: February 21, 2020 at 03:07 PM (#5925926)
Jose Azocar is playing for the Tigers in that game. According to a 2016 article in Spanish, he's a cousin of the birthday team's first baseman.
   13. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: February 23, 2020 at 04:07 PM (#5926102)
Is that Lasorda in the Dodgers dugout today?? 92 and he’s putting on a uniform and sitting in the dugout. Don’t know if this is cool or crazy

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