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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 2-22-2021

South Bend News-Times, February 22, 1921:

The Yankees’ new two-million dollar park will be tailor-made for Babe Ruth and his home run swing. It will be a home run manufacturing plant.

When the switch is made in two years Babe will find his new home run home all set for him to manufacture homers in. The right field of the new establishment will be an exact duplicate of the one at the Polo Grounds, where Babe has learned so well to measure the distance for his home run aim.
...
[Yankees co-owner Huston:] “Babe wants to hit 75 home runs this year. The 54 he got last season has only made him keen. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him do it.”

It wouldn’t have been a surprise at all; Babe completely broke baseball in a way that nobody else has ever broken a sport. Maybe Don Hutson in the NFL. Ruth and Hutson were playing 4D chess while everyone else was busy playing tiddly winks.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: February 22, 2021 at 12:43 PM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: February 22, 2021 at 12:45 PM (#6006216)
Not a strong Birthday Team. Kelly Johnson is by far the leader in career WAR among position players. Today's team is, however, recommended if you like Mariners and Pilots pitchers.

C: Bill Baker (0.1 WAR)
1B: Casey Kotchman (7.5 WAR)
2B: Kelly Johnson (16.6 WAR)
3B: Russ Johnson (2.7 WAR)
SS: Johnny Lucadello (1.2 WAR)
LF: Daniel Nava (8.4 WAR)
CF: Eric Yelding (-1.7 WAR)
RF: Joe Lefebvre (3.8 WAR)

SP: Clarence Mitchell (23.7 WAR)
SP: Steve Barber (17.5 WAR)
SP: Jumbo McGinnis (8.8 WAR)
SP: German Marquez (14.0 WAR)
SP: Brian Duensing (6.2 WAR)
RP: J.J. Putz (13.1 WAR)
RP: Kazuhiro Sasaki (3.7 WAR)

#####: ##### Tebeau
Fun names: Pat Hilly, Rocky Gale
Fun player: Ryne Duren
Manager: Sparky Anderson
Umpire: Bill Klem
   2. vortex of dissipation Posted: February 22, 2021 at 12:53 PM (#6006217)
It wouldn’t have been a surprise at all; Babe completely broke baseball in a way that nobody else has ever broken a sport.


Don Bradman in cricket. From wiki:

Cricket context
Completed Test career batting averages
Don Bradman (AUS)
99.94
Adam Voges (AUS)
61.87
Graeme Pollock (RSA)
60.97
George Headley (WI)
60.83
Herbert Sutcliffe (ENG)
60.73
Eddie Paynter (ENG)
59.23
Ken Barrington (ENG)
58.67
Everton Weekes (WI)
58.61
Wally Hammond (ENG)
58.45
Garfield Sobers (WI)
57.78
Source: Cricinfo
Qualification: 20 completed innings,
career completed.

Bradman's Test batting average of 99.94 has become one of cricket's most famous, iconic statistics.[42] No other player who has played more than 20 Test match innings has finished their career with a Test average of more than 62.[160] Bradman scored centuries at a rate better than one every three innings—in 80 Test innings, Bradman scored 29 centuries.[182] Only 11 players have since surpassed his total, all at a much slower rate: the next fastest player to reach 29 centuries, Sachin Tendulkar, required nearly twice as long (148 innings) to do so.[182]

In addition, Bradman converted 41% of his centuries into double centuries:[164] his total of 12 Test double hundreds—comprising 15% of his innings—remains the most achieved by any Test batsman and was accumulated faster than any other total.[164] For comparison, the next highest totals of Test double hundreds are Kumar Sangakkara's 11 in 223 innings (4.9%), Brian Lara's 9 in 232 innings (3.9%), and Wally Hammond's 7 in 140 innings (5%); the next highest rate of scoring Test double centuries was achieved by Vinod Kambli, whose 21 innings included 2 double centuries (9.5%).[164]
World sport context

Wisden hailed Bradman as, "the greatest phenomenon in the history of cricket, indeed in the history of all ball games".[3] Statistician Charles Davis analysed the statistics for several prominent sportsmen by comparing the number of standard deviations that they stand above the mean for their sport.[183] The top performers in his selected sports are:[184]
Athlete Sport Statistic Standard
deviations
Bradman Cricket Batting average 4.4
Pelé Association football Goals per game 3.7
Ty Cobb Baseball Batting average 3.6
Jack Nicklaus Golf Major titles 3.5
Michael Jordan Basketball Points per game 3.4

The statistics show that "no other athlete dominates an international sport to the extent that Bradman does cricket".[4] In order to post a similarly dominant career statistic as Bradman, a baseball batter would need a career batting average of .392, while a basketball player would need to score an average of 43.0 points per game over their career.[184] The respective records are .366 and 30.1.[184]

When Bradman died, Time allocated a space in its "Milestones" column for an obituary:[185]

...Australian icon considered by many to be the pre-eminent sportsman of all time...One of Australia's most beloved heroes, he was revered abroad as well. When Nelson Mandela was released after 27 years in prison, his first question to an Australian visitor was, "Is Sir Donald Bradman still alive?"
   3. SoSH U at work Posted: February 22, 2021 at 01:03 PM (#6006219)
It wouldn’t have been a surprise at all; Babe completely broke baseball in a way that nobody else has ever broken a sport.


Wilt?
   4. The Yankee Clapper Posted: February 22, 2021 at 02:15 PM (#6006226)
Babe had seasons where he out homered every team in the league. No one has done anything comparable in the Big 4 North American professional sports, IMHO, as impressive as those other accomplishments may have been in their own right.
   5. Hank Gillette Posted: February 22, 2021 at 02:43 PM (#6006233)
When the switch is made in two years Babe will find his new home run home all set for him to manufacture homers in. The right field of the new establishment will be an exact duplicate of the one at the Polo Grounds, where Babe has learned so well to measure the distance for his home run aim.
The right-field fence at the Polo Grounds was 258 feet at the foul line, although the distance increased rapidly away from the line due to the weird (for baseball) shape of the field. The right-field fence at Yankee Stadium was 298 feet at the foul line, with a more gradual increase in the distance moving towards center field. So, it was nowhere near being an exact duplicate.
   6. crict Posted: February 22, 2021 at 02:50 PM (#6006235)
Not quite Babe Ruth, but Wayne Gretzky still has more career assists than anybody else has career points. And he's also the all-time leader in goals.
   7. SoSH U at work Posted: February 22, 2021 at 03:24 PM (#6006242)

Babe had seasons where he out homered every team in the league. No one has done anything comparable in the Big 4 North American professional sports, IMHO, as impressive as those other accomplishments may have been in their own right.


To me, the people who "broke" a sport would be the ones who forced the sport to institute rule changes in response, which is why I'd go with Wilt. Babe was more of a trailblazer than a gamewrecker.

   8. Traderdave Posted: February 22, 2021 at 03:43 PM (#6006248)
Andy has insisted many times that Ruth didn't benefit at all from the short porch in RF, and that no Yankee ever has.
   9. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: February 22, 2021 at 07:04 PM (#6006276)
George Mikan in basketball surely, even more than Wilt.
   10. Ron J Posted: February 22, 2021 at 07:13 PM (#6006277)
#8 That's because it's true. Take a look at his home/road HR splits in the years he played in Yankee stadium. His career HR rate is "only" 48 HR per 154 games in Yankee Stadium.

Now if you want to see some home/road splits look at 1920 and 1921. Ruth once said something like, "I cried when they took the Polo Grounds away from me".

1920 Home .397/.543/.985
1921 Home .402/.545/.926

And yes his 1922 was an unremarkable .296/.405/.597 -- which means his career Polo Grounds stats -- which includes some games from the dead ball era -- ended up at a mere .364/.496/.826.

EDIT: 11 game in the Polo Grounds in 1919. .361/.500/.750 and 6 games in 1918: .417/.481/.917
   11. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: February 23, 2021 at 12:32 PM (#6006366)
Babe completely broke baseball in a way that nobody else has ever broken a sport.

My cat broke baseball once, when she jumped onto my Strat-O-Matic board in the middle of a game.
   12. Perry Posted: February 23, 2021 at 06:07 PM (#6006441)
To me, the people who "broke" a sport would be the ones who forced the sport to institute rule changes in response, which is why I'd go with Wilt. Babe was more of a trailblazer than a gamewrecker.


The NCAA banned dunking after Kareem's first year at UCLA. Didn't allow it for 10 years.
   13. JJ1986 Posted: February 23, 2021 at 06:10 PM (#6006442)
I don't know if this is a regular problem because it's been years since I looked, but I wanted to buy some Mets shirseys for my children and they offer exactly two players - deGrom and Alonso. The Mets acquired one of the top players in the game this offseason and aren't making his shirt available to kids. (I also wanted a Stroman 0 for myself, but adults can only choose from deGrom, Alonso and Lindor).
   14. Mefisto Posted: February 23, 2021 at 06:57 PM (#6006444)
If Babe had hit the 75, recent history would look a lot different.

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