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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 3-19-2020

Chattanooga News, March 19, 1920:

Joe Sewell, captain and second baseman of the University of Alabama baseball team, has signed a contract with the New Orleans Southern association team, and will report to Manager Dobbs at the close of the collegiate baseball season.

Sewell didn’t spend much time in the minors; Cleveland had an unexpectedly urgent need for a shortstop towards the end of the 1920 season.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: March 19, 2020 at 09:57 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: March 19, 2020 at 09:58 AM (#5931930)
Speaking of middle infielders on the 1920 Indians, happy birthday Wamby!

The ace pitcher on today's Birthday Team is excellent. In his 20s, Clayton Kershaw racked up more WAR than these pitchers over their entire careers: Whitey Ford, Dave Stieb, Urban Shocker, Dazzy Vance, Orel Hershiser, Jim Bunning, Stan Coveleski, and Rube Waddell. That's...pretty good.

C/Manager: David Ross (10.0 WAR)
1B: Tim Corcoran (1.0 WAR)
2B: Matt Downs (0.5 WAR)
3B: Clyde Engle (8.8 WAR)
SS: Bill Wambsganss (3.7 WAR)
LF: Gee Walker (15.6 WAR)
CF: Richie Ashburn (64.4 WAR)
RF: Ivan Calderon (11.9 WAR)

SP: Clayton Kershaw (67.9 WAR)
SP: Mike Norris (8.1 WAR)
SP: Tex Covington (1.6 WAR)
SP: Rocky Coppinger (1.2 WAR)
SP: Roy Evans (1.2 WAR)
RP: Rube Schauer (-2.4 WAR)

Backup C: Jason LaRue (8.9 WAR)
Fun names: Skyrocket Smith, Red Torkelson
General Manager: Tim Purpura
Man of mystery: Billy Maharg
SABR Founder: Bob Davids
   2. Nasty Nate Posted: March 19, 2020 at 10:27 AM (#5931937)
Let's be generous and make David Ross the player/manager.
   3. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: March 19, 2020 at 11:08 AM (#5931957)
Done. I meant to do that and got distracted.
   4. oscar madisox Posted: March 19, 2020 at 12:17 PM (#5931987)
Nearly three quarters of Mike Norris' career war (5.9 of 8.1) came in his great 1980 season. What Billy did to those pitchers was insane.
But it was fun watching them while it lasted.
   5. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 19, 2020 at 12:24 PM (#5931995)
What Billy did to those pitchers was insane.
Well, this team only has one reliever, so Norris should probably brace himself.
   6. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: March 19, 2020 at 12:24 PM (#5931996)
Bill Wambsganss was also a manager, albeit in the minors and the Girls League. (Plus he had an unassisted triple play in the World Series, and he received HOF votes in multiple years, despite a career WAR of 3.7. And, of course, he was named "Wambsganss".)
   7. AndrewJ Posted: March 19, 2020 at 12:45 PM (#5932007)
Mike Norris's MLB debut came in the the third game of the A's 1975 season, the three-time World Series champions at home against the White Sox. A total of 4,730 attended.
   8. Walt Davis Posted: March 19, 2020 at 05:53 PM (#5932108)
Well, Ross hasn't yet managed an official MLB game and who knows when he'll get the chance to.
   9. Snowboy Posted: March 19, 2020 at 05:54 PM (#5932110)
When I discovered that some remains of Cleveland's "League Park" were still standing, I made a buddy drive me there during a visit.
Aside from looking at photos in advance and then the astonishment of being able to walk around and imagine the place ("The sounds, the smells. Did you ever hold a ball or a glove to your face?") I particularly remember the Ohio Historical Society marker. I've seen plenty of those signs (Ohio is great at preserving or commemorating its history) but it struck me immediately that they noted the unassisted WS triple play was executed by "Bill Wamby" they never wrote his full/real name.

I could only think that he must have never used it? (His full name.) I mean, sure, newspapers back then liked to give everyone a nickname, but this was a plaque.
   10. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: March 19, 2020 at 06:55 PM (#5932123)
   11. bobm Posted: March 19, 2020 at 10:23 PM (#5932166)
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Not everyone in the family wore it as well. Bill's wife had it listed as "Wamby" in the telephone directory. William Adolph Wambsganss Jr., took on the last name of Wamby, as did Bill Wamby III. Apparently another grandson named Robert preferred the most historic last name. [Christian Science Monitor, February 17, 1964, and The Sporting News, April 2, 1984] Another grandson, Michael, uses the surname Wamby and understands the family to have originated in the Alsace-Lorraine region. [E-mail from Michael Wamby, July 11, 2011]

Wambsganss was a tongue-twister of a name, and didn't easily fit into newspaper boxscores--though some editors made the effort. He was W'ganss, Wam'g'ss, Wambs's, W'bsg'ss, and any number of other renditions. In Cleveland, though, the nickname Wamby was more or less formally approved, he told The Sporting News, when the scorecard printing company at League Park asked him if they could shorten it. "It was Bang & Bigley, and they operated a shop under the stadium. This fellow Bang -- he was the brother of Ed Bang, a longtime Cleveland sports editor -- stopped me when I went through the gate one day and asked if it would be OK if they shortened me to Wamby, so the name would fit better on scorecards. I told him I thought it sounded pretty good." [The Sporting News, April 2, 1984]


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   12. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 19, 2020 at 11:02 PM (#5932173)
Chris Sale--Tommy John
Scoop!!

I'm stunned.
   13. Walt Davis Posted: March 19, 2020 at 11:52 PM (#5932186)
Chris Sale--Tommy John

On the bright side, in 2021, 60'6" will probably still be sufficient social distance.

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