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Tuesday, April 21, 2020

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 4-21-2020

Pittsburgh Press, April 21, 1920:

Pitcher Carl Mays has been accused of experimenting with the “bean ball.” A lot of American league performers do not care much for the Yankee twirler, who was formerly with the Redsox, and it may be that these accusations are the result of spitework. At any rate, Ed Barrow, his former manager, comes to the pitcher’s defense as follows:

“Mays is a good fellow, and I don’t believe he would try to hit a batsman any more than would Walter Johnson. Nobody ever questions Johnson’s fast ball, although sometimes it speeds so close to the batsman’s head that it looks intentional. It’s unfair to charge Mays with such unsportsmanlike and cowardly tactics. He is a great pitcher, and doesn’t have to resort to intimidation.”

Let’s put a pin in that thought.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: April 21, 2020 at 10:04 AM | 7 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: April 21, 2020 at 10:06 AM (#5942619)
Not a ton of pitching depth on today's Birthday Team, not to mention a three-time Gold Glove third baseman playing out of position. Still, if anyone can win with this roster, it's Joe McCarthy.

C: Ronny Paulino (5.3 WAR)
1B: Ken Caminiti (33.5 WAR)
2B: Dick Green (16.0 WAR)
3B: Fred Hartman (7.4 WAR)
SS: Stan Rojek (5.6 WAR)
LF: Hardy Richardson (41.0 WAR)
CF: Joc Pederson (10.9 WAR)
RF: Al Bumbry (24.5 WAR)

SP: Gary Peters (28.7 WAR)
SP: Kip Wells (8.0 WAR)
SP: Les Lancaster (6.5 WAR)
SP: Lefty Weinert (0.7 WAR)
SP: Jack Brewer (0.2 WAR)
RP: Jesse Orosco (23.2 WAR)

Manager: Joe McCarthy
Fun name: Greg Legg, Bert Hogg, Terry Tiffee
Not that one: Kevin Brown, Ryan Adams
   2. Ron J Posted: April 21, 2020 at 11:20 AM (#5942657)
Haven't said so before, but thank you for putting these birthday teams together. It's a nice bit or regularity in a world that can use it.
   3. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 21, 2020 at 02:11 PM (#5942739)
SP: Gary Peters (28.7 WAR)

6.4 of that is oWAR--he was a very good hitter
   4. Itchy Row Posted: April 21, 2020 at 02:49 PM (#5942746)
Peters pitched a total of 21 innings in 12 appearances in his first four years in the major leagues and then won Rookie of the Year in the fifth season he appeared in.

Lou Piniella won ROTY five years after his debut, but he only appeared in major league games in two seasons before his rookie year. Lou was with his fifth major league organization by his rookie year, and he'd been with Cleveland twice.
   5. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: April 21, 2020 at 02:50 PM (#5942747)
I've played OOTP sims in which both Mays and Chapman are in the HOF.
   6. Itchy Row Posted: April 21, 2020 at 03:22 PM (#5942758)
The White Sox had their fake seven-game winning streak snapped today, dropping them to a still-MLB best 18-6. They always play their best baseball when there's no baseball being played.

One of their losses was a 20-8 game that went 12 innings. The Rangers beat the A's 16-4 in a 15-inning game in 1983. That's the biggest extra-inning run differential that shows up on bb-ref.
   7. Hank Gillette Posted: April 22, 2020 at 05:07 AM (#5942942)
6.4 of that is oWAR--he was a very good hitter


I remember that he was used as a pinch hitter on occasion, presumably after Smokey Burgess had already pinch hit.

Does anyone know: for WAR purposes, when he pinch hit, was he still considered a pitcher?

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