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Pro Football Hall of Fame surprises Joe Buck at halftime with prestigious Rozelle Award

Joe Buck is headed for Canton.

The longtime Fox Sports announcer will receive the Pro Football Hall of Fame’s prestigious Pete Rozelle Award, given for “longtime exceptional contributions to radio and television in professional football.” Buck joins his father, Jack Buck, in receiving the award, the first father-son duo to ever do it….

“I don’t even know what to say,” Buck said after seeing the video announcement. “That’s unbelievable.”

Buck’s career with Fox goes all the way back to 1994, when he started calling NFL games at 25 years old. Soon after, he was calling MLB games and pulling double duty between two sports, just like his dad.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 18, 2020 at 10:24 AM | 22 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Howie Menckel Posted: September 18, 2020 at 11:17 AM (#5977454)
I don’t even know what to say,” Buck said after seeing the video announcement. “That’s unbelievable.”

Joe's best call of his career!
   2. Swoboda is freedom Posted: September 18, 2020 at 11:23 AM (#5977457)
I have never been a Buck hater. Don't love him on baseball, but there are worse. How is he on football? I don't hear him much on that.
   3. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: September 18, 2020 at 11:37 AM (#5977463)
I think Buck is perfectly cromulent in the football booth. That said, I'm perhaps not well-calibrated to evaluate football broadcasters. I enjoy(ed) all of the legends: Keith Jackson, Al Michaels, Verne Lundquist, and Pat Summerall. However, I also think Troy Aikman does a pretty good job, and I've been told that is the wrong opinion.
   4. SoSH U at work Posted: September 18, 2020 at 11:43 AM (#5977465)
How is he on football?


His most famous calls in football were his rather uninspired response to David Tyree's helmet catch in the Giants' SB win over the Pats, and his very inspired response to Randy Moss's pretend mooning.

   5. Itchy Row Posted: September 18, 2020 at 11:49 AM (#5977467)
Now he'll be stuffed and mounted on top of the juicer in Canton.
   6. The Honorable Ardo Posted: September 18, 2020 at 12:00 PM (#5977468)
Joe is a better football than baseball announcer. Of course, he's clearing the kiddie hurdle. He's mediocre but not obtrusive.
   7. Greg Pope Posted: September 18, 2020 at 12:49 PM (#5977478)
Joe is a better football than baseball announcer. Of course, he's clearing the kiddie hurdle. He's mediocre but not obtrusive.

This pretty much nails it. There's nothing wrong with him in the football booth. But he's not entertaining and he never provides any sort of insight. As for this award, he clearly meets the "longtime" criteria, but doesn't come anywhere near the "exceptional" criteria.
   8. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: September 18, 2020 at 01:21 PM (#5977485)
Isn't Joe like 40?

edit: 51, according to math from the excerpt.
   9. Karl from NY Posted: September 18, 2020 at 02:37 PM (#5977505)
His voice is a concrete sidewalk, flat and scratchy. Other than that, yeah he's perfectly adequate. No reason to love him but no reason to hate him either.

He is a looser and more self-aware and interesting person than comes across on the broadcasts; I've seen him on the late-night talk shows a couple times and he's reasonably entertaining there.
   10. ramifications of an exciting 57i66135 Posted: September 18, 2020 at 03:05 PM (#5977510)
He is a looser and more self-aware and interesting person than comes across on the broadcasts; I've seen him on the late-night talk shows a couple times and he's reasonably entertaining there.

he's never not great in "brockmire"

never not great.
   11. cardsfanboy Posted: September 18, 2020 at 06:51 PM (#5977556)
I think Buck gets a lot of hate, the comment that he's perfectly cromulent is accurate for both his work in baseball and football, but at the same time, there aren't really that many excellent announcers anyway....Basically the air waves are filled with guys who either actively suck, or just are passable. In St Louis our best is Rooney who is borderline decent, Edmonds/Horton and McLaughlin who are passable. And then you have Shannon who is clearly past the point of competence.... I listen to an inning of a game the other day and Rooney had to correct him on the number of outs in the inning, the location of where the Cubs were playing (They just pitched a no-hitter) the number of outs recorded by the pitcher (Shannon seemed to think that Reyes had faced three batters and could be removed after he had actually faced one)

And the sad part is, I think that if every fan of every team objectively looked at their announcers, the average is so far below what we as fans would think would be the average. Rooney is supposedly excellent, and yet I just think he's okay... maybe on par with Jon Miller, who has never impressed me (but has seemed to impress a lot of other people... but I just think that is because the standards we have is so low, that he excels to the point of being elite, even though elite in this field should be much higher than it really is.---- basically peak Scully is about 5 degrees ahead of second place nowadays that it's ridiculous to call anyone good... we are just shooting for passable)

As far as the NFL, since you don't get local announcers for the tv game, it automatically lowers their quality... but Tony Romo is doing things beyond everyone else, that there is no doubt who the best NFL announcer is today... and it's not even close.

Meanwhile in the NHL.... the 20th best announcer is probably better than the 3rd best announcer in either the NFL or MLB. The sport lends itself to good announcing, because filling dead time isn't part of the job description.
   12. cardsfanboy Posted: September 18, 2020 at 06:52 PM (#5977557)
he's never not great in "brockmire"

never not great.


Brockmire's first two seasons were awesome....
   13. ramifications of an exciting 57i66135 Posted: September 18, 2020 at 07:31 PM (#5977565)
And the sad part is, I think that if every fan of every team objectively looked at their announcers, the average is so far below what we as fans would think would be the average. Rooney is supposedly excellent, and yet I just think he's okay... maybe on par with Jon Miller, who has never impressed me (but has seemed to impress a lot of other people... but I just think that is because the standards we have is so low, that he excels to the point of being elite, even though elite in this field should be much higher than it really is.---- basically peak Scully is about 5 degrees ahead of second place nowadays that it's ridiculous to call anyone good... we are just shooting for passable)

teams keep mediocre broadcasters...until death, basically. if you don't get lucky when your team hires someone, oh well, your next 30 years are going to be ####.

the phillies have a great radio pbp'r, but he wasn't "next in line" when harry kalas died, and so phillies fans have been stuck with the voice of a grinning tumor for more than a decade (and no end in sight).


and speaking of until death, the eagles' 80+ year old radio pbp announcer is legally blind. he used to be great at calling games, and he's still a legend, but he can't handle the job anymore, not that anyone is going to step in to stop him.
   14. cardsfanboy Posted: September 18, 2020 at 08:18 PM (#5977568)
and speaking of until death, the eagles' 80+ year old radio pbp announcer is legally blind. he used to be great at calling games, and he's still a legend, but he can't handle the job anymore, not that anyone is going to step in to stop him.


and that is an issue, Mike Shannon has been incompetent for at least five years, and just bad for a decade plus, but nobody is going to fire someone. Jack Buck when he died, hadn't been worth a crap for at least a decade, but again, nobody is going to stop them from doing the job... heck, even Scully was, at best, average for his last few years.... nobody is going to eject these legends, but at some point in time you tell them, they get a broadcast a week, and the newbies are going to take over. It would be like if the Angels kept putting Albert Pujols out there 10 years from now.... simply because he was great one time.... aging is an actual thing, and it factors into every job on the planet, regardless of 'non-physical' it is.


Tim McCarver guests for the Cardinals, and it's funny, his first few broadcasts he's actually extremely good, but after about 15 or so, it's clear he just can't keep up with the workload... he studies for this stuff...not kidding, it's obvious in his first few broadcasts that he spent hours reading up on the team that we are playing.. the people they will be interviewing etc... but with long stretches, that work disappears.... let him guest, let him pick and choose 15-30 or so games a year to cover... he's actually good when he is sharp, but he is annoying when he isn't. His old man schtick comes out, his lack of appreciation of anything after 1980 shows up, and his repetitive stories of Bob Gibson, become predictable.
   15. Jay Seaver Posted: September 18, 2020 at 09:25 PM (#5977582)
teams keep mediocre broadcasters...until death, basically. if you don't get lucky when your team hires someone, oh well, your next 30 years are going to be ####.

But the good ones... (sighs, stares sadly in the direction of San Diego)
   16. Howie Menckel Posted: September 18, 2020 at 09:27 PM (#5977583)
is legally blind. he used to be great at calling games, and he's still a legend, but he can't handle the job anymore, not that anyone is going to step in to stop him.

but enough about John Sterling.
   17. Walt Davis Posted: September 19, 2020 at 04:43 AM (#5977649)
Some of it is that we have our local, home broadcasters in baseball. All NFL TV is essentially "neutral" broadcasting. In contrast to other NFL announcers, Buck's apparent lack of enthusiasm is common and so less noticeable. In contrast to local baseball announcers, Buck and most other national announcers will seem uninterested, disinterested and uninteresting (irregardless of whether they actually are).

Plus we get our local broadcasters every day (if we can stand it) and so build a familiarity with them. Ron Santo was a terrible announcer but his goofiness became charming if you listed a lot and he and Hughes always seemed to enjoy each other's company. Buck you probably only listen to the few times a year your team ends up on national TV then the playoff series he covers and he may not be working with the same guys each week and he works with them just once a week.
   18. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: September 20, 2020 at 10:47 AM (#5977754)
Sports announcing is one of those things that the average guy looks at and says, "Yeah, I could do that." Speaking as someone who's done lower-level sports announcing for 30+ years...no, you can't. It's a helluva lot harder than it looks.
   19. cardsfanboy Posted: September 20, 2020 at 01:44 PM (#5977770)
Sports announcing is one of those things that the average guy looks at and says, "Yeah, I could do that." Speaking as someone who's done lower-level sports announcing for 30+ years...no, you can't. It's a helluva lot harder than it looks.


I don't doubt any of that, but what I do doubt is that we are getting the best for the bucks being spent.... basically there are too many announcers out there that are collecting a pay check and will continue to collect a pay check, while being noticeably bad at their job. And it's going to happen even more so when they were good and then became less....

There should be a level of competence that is expected.... If you have the ability, turn on a Cardinal radio broadcast and listen to Mike Shannon today... .the guy is Trump level of stupid.... He can't do one sentence without being wrong. He needs to be put out to the pasture, Rooney spends most of his broadcast holding him up.. .it's ridiculous.. The Reds had the same thing a few years ago with their old fart that needed to be put out etc....

   20. McCoy Posted: September 20, 2020 at 04:37 PM (#5977777)
The Bears look dreadful.
   21. TJ Posted: September 20, 2020 at 08:05 PM (#5977803)
Sports announcing is one of those things that the average guy looks at and says, "Yeah, I could do that." Speaking as someone who's done lower-level sports announcing for 30+ years...no, you can't. It's a helluva lot harder than it looks.


Even though I think Joe Buck sucks at calling baseball (it sounds like he gets more excited doing promos for Fox’s next show and spotting celebrities in the crowd than calling the game), baseball seems to be getting more difficult to call. Derrick Goold teeeted today that out of the first 36 batters in the Pirates/Cards game, 18 either walked or struck out. That’s a whole lot of boring for a broadcaster to fill...
   22. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: September 21, 2020 at 11:16 AM (#5977899)
Bob Uecker is 86 and can be fooled on long fly balls that he starts to call as dingers but get caught. Brewers fans call that 'getting Uked'

Otherwise, he's still entertaining. Really has a knack for integrating current stuff into some kind of funny story to fill the down time of a game. Not an original statement but if baseball had not worked for him he would have had a career as a comedian doing clubs and casinos for 50 plus years.

And don't think he can't call the game. He's on it. What is super impressive is the energy and no qualifier of 'for 86'. Dude loves baseball.

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