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propose a law demanding the Kansas City Royals release Jeff Francoeur and make George R.R. Martin write faster. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government

I don’t know who started this but he needs help moving our country forward.

Until we have the technology to harness Jeff Francoeur’s wind power from missed swings, having Francoeur fly around in planes to different baseball cities is an unconscionable use of carbon fuels. Also, in the time that Song of Ice and Fire fans use to think about how annoying it is that George R.R. Martin writes one sentence every month, we could have been putting our minds to better use by inventing a new product that would employ millions of Americans, like flying cars or solar-powered hats or butter that’s like other butter but totally better.

jimfurtado Posted: November 13, 2012 at 01:50 PM | 54 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. SoSH U at work Posted: November 13, 2012 at 01:59 PM (#4301514)
I don’t know who started this but he needs help moving our country forward.


It must be the tricky handle change that threw you.

(the answer's in the politics thread).

   2. Szym Posted: November 13, 2012 at 02:05 PM (#4301525)
Jim's joking, he probably saw it on Facebook!

The Martin addendum is because to get legislation passed, you need juicy riders to unite people!
   3. dr. scott Posted: November 13, 2012 at 02:05 PM (#4301526)
I have a solar powered hat, and let me tell you... serious innovation is necessary to make it either useful or less dorky.

Both, however, may be beyond our reach.
   4. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: November 13, 2012 at 02:08 PM (#4301531)
   5. SoSH U at work Posted: November 13, 2012 at 02:11 PM (#4301536)
Jim's joking, he probably saw it on Facebook!


I figured he was. My parenthetical was for anyone else who wanted to seek out its origins.


   6. Szym Posted: November 13, 2012 at 02:14 PM (#4301544)
Both, however, may be beyond our reach.

I love this line from that site:

Note: Color will be delivered at random and the actual color may vary from the pictures due to product availability.


There's the innovation potential: Having people buy a solar hat and get to actually choose what they buy. No, "here's your pink hat, ############!"
   7. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 13, 2012 at 02:20 PM (#4301546)
If there is anyone that is more polarizing than Barack Obama it is Jeff Francoeur.
   8. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: November 13, 2012 at 02:24 PM (#4301551)
If there is anyone that is more polarizing than Barack Obama it is Jeff Francoeur.


Jeez, I used the "denying the math of Nate's model is on par with those folks who continue to tell us how much value Jeff Francoeur's dopey smile brings to whatever team he's blessing with his presence" line in the OTP thread from, like, October!

#offtopicpoliticshipsterism
   9. dr. scott Posted: November 13, 2012 at 02:26 PM (#4301554)
Note: Color will be delivered at random and the actual color may vary from the pictures due to product availability.


For full disclosure, mine is white with a "China Solar Valley Logo" on it. Its the envy of all my cubemates.
   10. cardsfanboy Posted: November 13, 2012 at 02:41 PM (#4301567)
I have been having fun at the silliness of this whole petition nonsense. Repubs are acting like it's a groundswell movement, when it's basically 3000 kids signing the same petition multiple times. Heck the white house acknowledging aliens petition got close to 25,000 signatures.


I had started a petition called "Protect the integrity of petitions,
Petition." Requiring that people can't sign a petition if they don't reside in the state that the petition is petitioning for. (Something like 50% of the signees for secession are from different states)
   11. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: November 13, 2012 at 03:04 PM (#4301576)
I signed the Texas petition. We don't need 'em.

Also, George RR Martin sucks enough that I don't care at all how fast he writes.
   12. Monty Posted: November 13, 2012 at 03:05 PM (#4301577)
If George RR Martin wrote faster, that would just make the books even longer instead of making them come out faster. You want him to stop writing faster.
   13. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: November 13, 2012 at 03:14 PM (#4301585)
You want him to stop writing faster.


If he stops writing, faster or not, we won't get books at all!
   14. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 13, 2012 at 03:47 PM (#4301625)
The degree of skill with which Mr. Martin writes can be seriously debated. The question of whether the books provide hours of mindless entertainment cannot.
   15. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: November 13, 2012 at 03:52 PM (#4301634)
The question of whether the books provide hours of mindless entertainment cannot.


That's true. They're certainly not entertaining.
   16. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 13, 2012 at 03:55 PM (#4301636)
That's true. They're certainly not entertaining.


This is clearly a jape.
   17. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:00 PM (#4301643)
Jeez, I used the "denying the math of Nate's model is on par with those folks who continue to tell us how much value Jeff Francoeur's dopey smile brings to whatever team he's blessing with his presence" line in the OTP thread from, like, October!


Like Rick Reilly?

-- MWE
   18. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:07 PM (#4301649)
This is clearly a jape.


I just don't find pages and pages of descriptions of food, sigils, and pederastic rape very entertaining.
   19. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:10 PM (#4301652)
I just don't find pages and pages of descriptions of food, sigils, and pederastic rape very entertaining.


Prude.
   20. Rally Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:16 PM (#4301656)
The degree of skill with which Mr. Martin writes can be seriously debated. The question of whether the books provide hours of mindless entertainment cannot.


I find Martin entertaining. But less so with each book he writes. There is an aging curve for writers just like any other profession. He is past his prime and in decline. Whether books 6-7 remain above replacement level remains to be seen. Book 5 was like Russell Martin 2012 - an acceptable starting catcher, but nothing to brag about. Book 1 was Mike Piazza in the 90's.
   21. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:20 PM (#4301662)
Book 1 was Mike Piazza in the 90's.


I would rank them as follows:

Book 1: Mike Piazza in the 90's
Book 2: Barry Bonds in the 90's
Book 3: Babe Ruth in the 20's
Book 4: Jose Offerman in the 90's
Book 5: Cal Ripken Jr. in the 80's, 90's, and 00's
   22. dr. scott Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:28 PM (#4301666)
Book 4: Jose Offerman in the 90's


so it started terrible, became OK and then ended somewhat above average, with a really good chapter right near the end?

I think my wife would have just said Kurt Suzuki. She was not thrilled with it.
   23. President of the David Eckstein Fan Club Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:31 PM (#4301669)
Your description of Offerman's career matches my own opinion of Feast. I'm less positive on Dance than Ted Williams Carlos Williams though...to me it was...Michael Young maybe? Occasionally dynamic but generally just compiling (words/pages/repetitive phrases) and aimless. Maybe AJ Pierynski - generally okay, some good, some bad, inspiring some illogical hatred at times.
   24. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:33 PM (#4301671)
I'm less positive on Dance than Ted Williams Carlos Williams though...to me it was...Michael Young maybe? Occasionally dynamic but generally just compiling (words/pages/repetitive phrases) and aimless.


I actually enjoyed Feast. Dance was just tedious and unending.
   25. Monty Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:35 PM (#4301675)
If he stops writing, faster or not, we won't get books at all!


He doesn't have to stop writing forever. He just has to stop writing the book he's currently working on. Then it can be published and he can work on a new one. His overall pages-per-year rate is fine; it's just that his fans don't get to read anything until he has ten thousand pages stored up.
   26. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:36 PM (#4301677)
Book 3: Babe Ruth in the 20's

Red wedding = Ruth getting thrown out trying to steal to end the World Series?
   27. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:37 PM (#4301680)
I actually enjoyed Feast. Dance was just tedious and unending.


This is what I was trying to convey. Obviously Cal was great. I should have chosen someone with a really long, but unspectacular, career. Bob Boone?
   28. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Fred Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:37 PM (#4301681)
The books are already written already, he's just waiting to release 'em so as not to piss off the fanbase with a disappointing conclusion and scupper the HBO deal and all the fame and adulation he's getting.

It is known.
   29. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:38 PM (#4301682)
You know nothing, Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman.
   30. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:41 PM (#4301686)
Red wedding = Ruth getting thrown out trying to steal to end the World Series?


Are you saying Roose Bolton is the equivalent of Rogers Hornsby? Might work.
   31. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:50 PM (#4301699)
There's the innovation potential: Having people buy a solar hat and get to actually choose what they buy. No, "here's your pink hat, ############!"

I once ordered some shoelaces online - pink for my wife and red/white/blue ones for me. They were out of the latter so they sent me all pink shoelaces. Talk about a customer service failure.
   32. Zonk isn't banned, he's under review Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:51 PM (#4301702)
Then who's Walder Frey -- Jamie Moyer?
   33. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:53 PM (#4301707)
Then who's Walder Frey -- Jamie Moyer?


Since Jamie Moyer hosted the 1926 World Series, yes.
   34. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 13, 2012 at 04:56 PM (#4301710)
Is this a site where nerds talk about baseball or where baseball people talk like nerds?
   35. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: November 13, 2012 at 05:02 PM (#4301715)
This is what I was trying to convey. Obviously Cal was great. I should have chosen someone with a really long, but unspectacular, career. Bob Boone?


I'd go with someone like Bruce Chen. Opened his career as the most exciting thing ever by the nerdists reckoning, wasn't particularly good, but managed to keep going, and going, until suddenly is a decade later and you're like, "holy ####, Bruce Chen is still in baseball!"
   36. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 13, 2012 at 05:25 PM (#4301740)
I'd go with someone like Bruce Chen. Opened his career as the most exciting thing ever by the nerdists reckoning, wasn't particularly good, but managed to keep going, and going, until suddenly is a decade later and you're like, "holy ####, Bruce Chen is still in baseball!"


Done.
   37. SteveM. Posted: November 13, 2012 at 05:38 PM (#4301759)
Is this a site where nerds talk about baseball or where baseball people talk like nerds?


I've always assumed most of us were both. And I include myself in that description-nobody who goes to grad school for a discipline like history isn't a nerd.
   38. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 13, 2012 at 05:48 PM (#4301774)
I got an undergrad degree in history. I always thought it was a jumping off point for law school or wall street.

(Not that I succeeded at either).
   39. Gamingboy Posted: November 13, 2012 at 05:58 PM (#4301787)
I seem to remember one time we all lined up the houses of Westeros to baseball teams.
   40. President of the David Eckstein Fan Club Posted: November 13, 2012 at 06:12 PM (#4301799)
There's also this hilarious Premier League to ASOIAF noble house converter: http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/22795/game-of-thrones-to-english-premier-league-converter

Wayne Rooney as Ramsay always makes me laugh
   41. RJ in TO Posted: November 13, 2012 at 06:13 PM (#4301800)
Is this a site where nerds talk about baseball or where baseball people talk like nerds?

Yes.
   42. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: November 13, 2012 at 06:22 PM (#4301807)
Charlie Finley is Walder Frey.

I actually enjoyed Feast. Dance was just tedious and unending.


I haven't read dance yet, but for me, Feast was how you described Dance. I mean, how many ####### times in this series are we going to visit Harenhall?

   43. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: November 13, 2012 at 06:27 PM (#4301818)
I haven't read dance yet, but for me, Feast was how you described Dance. I mean, how many ####### times in this series are we going to visit Harenhall?


Well just wait until you get into the trips of various characters trying to get east to the dragons. Jesus.
   44. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 13, 2012 at 06:29 PM (#4301822)
I seem to remember one time we all lined up the houses of Westeros to baseball teams.


I would love to see this.
   45. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: November 13, 2012 at 06:31 PM (#4301824)
I seem to remember one time we all lined up the houses of Westeros to baseball teams.


Wasn't it just the playoff contenders?
   46. McCoy Posted: November 13, 2012 at 06:31 PM (#4301825)
The problem with the books is that they are a ##### to reread/ The ideas and storylines behind the writing are fascinating but the writing itself can be tedious. So rereading 10,000 pages is not fun. Then throw in the fact that it takes him forever to write a book and you get a ton of information forgotten. At least for me and I read all the books that were out about 3 years ago but I can only tell you the most basic points of the story and found myself trying to remember what was going on when I read the latest installment.
   47. Szym Posted: November 13, 2012 at 06:37 PM (#4301831)
4 and 5 weren't as good as 1, 2, 3, but I think he got stuck a little, having to change his original timeline plan and then having the word parallel books thing. Once he finally finishes up the series, I'd kinda like a new directors cut of 4/5 that perhaps makes it less disjointed.
   48. Szym Posted: November 13, 2012 at 06:38 PM (#4301835)
So, is Tyler Flowers a bastard from Highgarden?
   49. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: November 13, 2012 at 06:39 PM (#4301838)
I seem to remember one time we all lined up the houses of Westeros to baseball teams.



Wasn't it just the playoff contenders?


Found it

(The wildcard scrum does have kind of a Game of Thrones vibe to it this year.)



The Tigers are the Lannisters - given every advantage (payroll, division), but still keep messing up.
The A's are the Starks - best at what they do, but faced with too many disadvantages.
The Angels are Renly - Early favorites, but a paper tiger with no real chance.
The Orioles are the Greyjoys - clearly the worst and happy just to be mentioned.
The Rays are Stannis - No one actually likes them, but still the favorites.
   50. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: November 13, 2012 at 06:43 PM (#4301840)
4 and 5 weren't as good as 1, 2, 3,


So you're saying he started off good, but then went too far?
   51. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 13, 2012 at 06:44 PM (#4301842)
The New York Post did one this year:

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/backpage/mlb_playoff_preview_game_of_thrones_WSHIYcNmRvxNNLjPALsduN#axzz2C9IotkEW

Yankees: Tywin
Orioles: Robb
Tigers: Jaime
Athletics: Stannis
Rangers: Renly
Nationals: Catelyn
Braves: Jorah
Reds: Theon
Cardinals: Daenerys
Giants: Davos
   52. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: November 13, 2012 at 06:47 PM (#4301845)
Jorah?
   53. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: November 13, 2012 at 06:49 PM (#4301849)
Jorah?


Disgraced earlier (2011), trying to return to power.
   54. Dan Szymborski Posted: November 14, 2012 at 11:06 AM (#4302333)
Update! My petition was removed as not falling under the scope of We the People.

But we're not quite dead yet. I have formally appealed the takedown of my petition.

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