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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Monday, September 26, 2022Pujols lets emotions flow after joining 700 Home Run Club
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Posted: September 26, 2022 at 12:22 AM | 32 comment(s)
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1. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: September 26, 2022 at 08:43 AM (#6097932)I really enjoyed this ESPN article about memories of Pujols. A-Rod's is awesome, and Mike Hampton's is really funny.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/34599090/trout-mcgwire-arod-more-reflect-pujols-700-home-runs
vs RHP: 204 PAs, .207/.294/.380, including 8 HRs
vs LHP: 129 PAs, .354/.403/.752, including 13 HRs (!)
If he wanted to play next year in a similar role, somebody would sign up for that.
I suspect that 40 years ago, a guy like this would be even more valuable, because if you were facing a left-handed starting pitcher, the chances were very good Pujols would get at least three PAs against him, before the bullpen got involved. Now, it seems like he'd get to PAs against the starter, then he'd probably be looking at righties the rest of the game - where he clearly has not been effective this year.
Regardless, if you thought that after the last 10 years of his career, that Pujols would have an age-42 season where he got about 350 PAs, and actually increased his career OPS+ of 144 by another point, then you are a clairvoyant! It's his best OPS+ in a season since his final year in St. Louis in 2011.
Would he have hit 800 if he never left St. Louis?
And then, at the point where his contract didn't stop the Angels from finally letting him go, he got enough of a bounce to be useful to the Dodgers and (definitely) the Cardinals.
I mean, from 2013-2021 - basically everything in LA after his first season there - he's got 4600 PAs of league-average hitting, allowing him to accumulate another 1000+ hits and 200+ HRs, while his career OPS+ dropped from 169 to 144. In that entire nine-year period, he produced a total of 8.2 WAR. From 2016-2021, he produced a total of -0.3 WAR.
Regardless, watching him play in St. Louis this year has been an exercise in joy. Fans that love Pujols. A player who loves the fans. Expectations wildly exceeded. A team going to the playoffs with a chance to send him and Molina off as winners. A truly momentous baseball milestone reached. It has been one of the highlights of the season to watch Pujols conjure up the greatness one more time.
It's kind of a shame that RBI aren't of much interest anymore. They used to be fun.
I can't think of a consistently worse AL team which at the same time always thought they might compete. It was the perfect landing spot for him in retrospect. He was motivated to help them win and once out of contention there was no reason to bench him.
In the alternate universe of signing with Cards he would have retired or DFA'd long ago.
We've been blessed with right-handed hitters this century (Trout, Miggy, Manny, ARod) and Albert is at the top of the list.
I still find RBI to be fun. Yeah, it's only for fun, but that's OK.
I would prefer him going out on a called K on PH Molina to end a game 7 loss, but that's just me.
In the un-exciting stats category, he's 6th all-time in PAs. He'd have to come back next year to pass Cobb and have to repeat this year to pass Rickey. It would take a miracle to catch Buckner and crack the top 50 for singles (he needs 17). He's tied for 3rd all-time in SFs (not sure when they started counting these), 4 behind Ripken and 5 behind Murray. Alas he is #1 in GDP by a mile ... Miggy is #2.
I have to assume that there are plenty of adj that fWAR and bWAR will undergo periodically. There even used to be adjustments to counting stats when someone would find a box score recording error from time to time
Park factors adjustments is also not finalized yet, even without any other adjustments to the formula. (at least as much as I can recall) basically his numbers can still change in the next two years even if he doesn't play an inning.
It lacks the proper historical comeuppance I require. I left out against which team, which seemed obvious.
A 21 home run season is always a dead giveaway.
As cool as it is to see Albert turn back the clock for a bit and give himself a fitting send off, the last few months are just a hot streak, not a true revival or evidence of PED's. If he came back next year, I'd fully expect him to start hitting like a 43(+) year old again.
Yeah but PF adjustments to 2021-22 aren't gonna drop him by more than a win.
And
Exactly, why would he juice now? He's gone from playing 150+ games a season, to having a season where he's getting plenty of rest, he's being heavily platooned, and being pulled or having rested starts etc. As the Sam Elliot meme points out, you have to be a special kind of stupid to think that.
"When Albert Pujols hit his first homerun, Tom Brady had zero career starts and 6 passing yards."
Maybe, but if he does return, I think the RBI record — over the course of two years — could hold more sway.
1. It's an all-time record. As much as passing Ruth has cachet, being at the top of a leaderboard probably has more.
2. It's a lot easier for potential teams to engineer RBI opportunities for Pujols if they choose. He can start against lefties, but PH in late game situations where an RBI might be available with a sac fly, or ground out.
Again, this sort of assumes both parties are interested. Maybe Pujols hasn't changed his mind. But if he has, there's probably a team out there willing to give him the PAs as a platoon bat/ticket seller
I’m amazed at how many people in other sites are posting that Albert is only hitting 700 because clearly he started juicing this season.
I'm not. People love hot nihilistic takes.
I still think RBIs are pretty cool. Pete Alonso set the Mets single-season RBI record the other night, passing Wright and Piazza -- that got some attention on the broadcast and in the press here.
Sometimes members of the stat community forget that the main point of sports is simply entertainment.
On the other hand finishing at 700 seems a nice way to retire and I think he also wants to go into HOF with Yadi. His presence with Yadi ought to buy Yadi some votes.
Yes, that's the best explanation for this discussion. I guess I can see an argument where he didn't want to blow a $250 million contract on a positive test, and now he's free to cheat. But if he really is that pathological about winning, then the most obvious step would have been losing about 30 pounds. As things stand, that extra weight on those feet sounds like a recipe for misery.
Granted, Albert has a much more exalted place in the game than those guys due to being better than all of them except ARod but nobody liked ARod.
But did nobody notice that the ESPN KayRod thing had ARod, Bonds and Clemens on? Seems not that long ago, we'd have had a moralizing article from every sportswriter in the county this morning.
This sounds like a fun reason for Pujols to get to 713 and stay there for a while.
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