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Friday, September 23, 2022

Rangers’ quest for pitching could lead them to Jacob deGrom

The Rangers are intent on adding a big-time starter, and word is they may go for Jacob deGrom. Folks marvel at how MLB’s best pitcher is throwing better than ever off his 13-month layoff, and while there aren’t a lot of teams ready to take a $40 million gamble, the Rangers might.

Rangers baseball president Chris Young wouldn’t address any specific pitching targets but said they “will leave no stone unturned” in their search to upgrade pitching a year after they significantly upgraded offense.

There’s been a lot of speculation about whether the DeLand, Fla., product deGrom prefers to leave New York and go south, though most speculation centers on the Braves. From here it’s hard to see a corporate team taking that risk….

It’s a sad day when the Royals let go baseball president Dayton Moore, a fantastic baseball guy who remains the only true small-market GM to reach two straight World Series and win one. The firing surprised him, too. Expectations there were unrealistic. Moore always joked he was the only GM from Garden City Community College (he also graduated George Mason); the trend is toward Ivy Leaguers. Manager Mike Matheny, who doesn’t seem favored by players, would seem to be in peril now.

 

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 23, 2022 at 02:26 PM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: jacob degrom, mike matheny, nolan arenado, rangers, royals, scott harris

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   1. Walt Davis Posted: September 23, 2022 at 03:12 PM (#6097656)
So let's check in with last year's big FAs. Seager has a 120 OPS+ and 3.8 WAR, decent defense it seems. Not what you want in year 1 of a big deal but more a sub-par season (131 OPS+ about 5 WAR/650 coming in) than a disaster and he's played the full season.

Semien has turned things around dramatically. His OPS+ is up to 111 -- he's always been highly variable, this is right in line with his career average. Rfield loves his defense, so does statcast and his baserunning has been excellent. So he's at 5.6 WAR which is awesome return for $25 M this season.
   2. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 23, 2022 at 04:28 PM (#6097666)
The opportunity to pitch in a comfortable climate-controlled stadium may be irresistible.
   3. The Duke Posted: September 23, 2022 at 04:40 PM (#6097667)
I can't wait to see what price Degrom commands
   4. Walt Davis Posted: September 23, 2022 at 06:24 PM (#6097679)
Friends we must set forth on a quest for pitching. Some claim that pitching doesn't exist, that these are just fairytales told by old men at the tavern after several cups. But we have faith! We will face many challenges, need to overcome many obstacle and defeat the forces that hope to deter our mission at every turn! Look to your left, look to your right, we will be lucky if one of you makes it back.

How about deGrom?

That was a short quest.
   5. Howie Menckel Posted: September 23, 2022 at 06:32 PM (#6097680)
love me some deGrom, but I am realistic.

if TEX outbids the Mets, I think he'd be fine with leaving.

not even a rumor about Jake resenting Max's contract, but he is laser-focused on being an alpha male himself.

very late bloomer but never lacked confidence. no home town discount here.
   6. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: September 23, 2022 at 06:33 PM (#6097681)
The opportunity to pitch in a comfortable climate-controlled stadium may be irresistible.


And Toronto's a great town. Best Indian food in North America.
   7. John Reynard Posted: September 24, 2022 at 05:18 AM (#6097735)
I could see DeGrom being a consolation signing by the Yankees after the Mets sign Judge.
   8. You can keep your massive haul Posted: September 24, 2022 at 11:21 PM (#6097867)
Meh can't be that great if the A's AAAA lineup scored 5 off him today.
   9. KronicFatigue Posted: September 26, 2022 at 08:13 AM (#6097930)
Whatever team signs DeGrom will probably regret it. But also, if the Mets let him go, they'll regret it too. That kind of talent combined with that lack of durability is unapparelled.

Edit: wasn't sure if it was whomever, or whoever, and am too tired to think about it, so switch to "whatever team". copout!
   10. Hot Wheeling American Posted: September 26, 2022 at 08:47 AM (#6097933)
There’s been a lot of speculation about whether the DeLand, Fla., product deGrom prefers to leave New York and go south, though most speculation centers on the Braves. From here it’s hard to see a corporate team taking that risk.


What's this now?
   11. Rally Posted: September 26, 2022 at 09:14 AM (#6097934)
Dayton Moore, a fantastic baseball guy who remains the only true small-market GM to reach two straight World Series and win one.


A very specific description. Let’s see, how many teams, regardless of market, have gone to 2 straight WS with at least one win?

2017-18 Dodgers don’t count, didn’t win either. Same with the Rangers with Nelson Cruz’s dropped flyball.

Royals, 2014-15
Yankees 4 straight, 1998-2001, won 3
Braves, 1995-96
Blue Jays, 1992-93
Oakland, 1988-90

More common in 60s and 70s, from 1960-1978 you always had at least one team in the midst of such a streak, sometimes two. It goes Yankees-Dodgers-Cardinals-Orioles-A’s-Reds-Yankees.


   12. SoSH U at work Posted: September 26, 2022 at 09:56 AM (#6097937)
Oakland is effectively a small market, though obviously you can choose to call them a large one if you pretend the Giants don't dominate the one they have.

On the other hand, from 1988-90, the A's weren't acting like a small market team (and the Giants hadn't assumed the dominance they would a decade later).

The Reds of 1975-76 would seem to qualify, though they may be eliminated by winning two.

   13. I Am Not a Number Posted: September 26, 2022 at 02:49 PM (#6097968)
deGrom and Diaz have both pitched 58 innings, with similar results, though the former has allowed 10 more runs. Their FIPs are 1.75 and 1.03, respectively. Collectively they have 200 strikeouts in their 116 IP.

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